Remember when trump told us all he would end the war in 24 hours? Well, not so much. US is pulling out of the talks. Oh, and by the way, Rubio says it's not our war. No shit.

Morons.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/t...efforts-not-our-war/

They couldn't end it in 24 months.

I came here to post this. I’m sure his cult members will tell us what a genius he is for this.

He never shut up explaining how simple it would be to solve, even before he took office. But like everything else the giant windbag says, his fan club will still lap up the next thing to come out of his pie hole as gospel.

His plan was to bully Ukraine into submission. Didn't work and Putins laughing at him when he's forced to try convince Russia to act with decency.
Hes a lozer. No plan, no spine, No intelligence.

https://www.latintimes.com/tru...n-peace-talks-581163

Trump's Promise to End Ukraine War in 24 Hours Mocked After Rubio Reveals US May Abandon Peace Talks: 'Just Another Lie'
M.B. Mack / Published Apr 18 2025, 11:48 AM EDT

Truth well spoken.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1382848509627353

Morons. Do you negotiate deals? If you do, you ask for more than you'll accept and you bluff and fluster in the process. Trump is the master of the deal. He'll get this one done.

but the difference is he has to negotiate his deals in public. Thankfully, I don't have to do that.

. . . master of the deal.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Morons. Do you negotiate deals? If you do, you ask for more than you'll accept and you bluff and fluster in the process. Trump is the master of the deal. He'll get this one done.

but the difference is he has to negotiate his deals in public. Thankfully, I don't have to do that.

I thought our president's role in the Ukraine War is supposed to be mediator.

You've never worked as a mediator, have you? Trump clearly hasn't. For one thing, mediators don't make public statements about the dispute or parties.

I was always taught, under promise and over deliver. With the Orange Messiah it is just the opposite, over promise and under deliver.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Morons. Do you negotiate deals? If you do, you ask for more than you'll accept and you bluff and fluster in the process. Trump is the master of the deal. He'll get this one done.

but the difference is he has to negotiate his deals in public. Thankfully, I don't have to do that.

Well, you got one thing right....all trump is good for is bluff and fluster. There was never a chance that your orange shit-gibbon was going to get a deal done that would ever be acceptable to the Ukrainians. Unlike trump, they refuse to get on their knees for Putin.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . master of the deal.

Of course he is!

He convinced almost have if the stupid population to vote for him!

It seems to me like Trump is playing out some sort of a fantasy reality show on a world scale. That's what he does. "Deals" in that context have a different meaning.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Morons. Do you negotiate deals? If you do, you ask for more than you'll accept and you bluff and fluster in the process. Trump is the master of the deal. He'll get this one done.

but the difference is he has to negotiate his deals in public. Thankfully, I don't have to do that.

So, how long have you been selling used cars?

Years ago there was a used car dealer in Houston that used the marketing phrase, "Owner has Brain Damage". Trump could adopt the same mantra and the bonus would be, for once he would be saying something that's true.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by lavaca:
Morons. Do you negotiate deals? If you do, you ask for more than you'll accept and you bluff and fluster in the process. Trump is the master of the deal. He'll get this one done.

but the difference is he has to negotiate his deals in public. Thankfully, I don't have to do that.

Well, you got one thing right....all trump is good for is bluff and fluster. There was never a chance that your orange shit-gibbon was going to get a deal done that would ever be acceptable to the Ukrainians. Unlike trump, they refuse to get on their knees for Putin.

I have a feeling Lavaca has caused a few resolutions by talking his client into the very real liability of a Bad Faith Claim.

I remember I settled a slip and fall with a firm out of Texas. They never responded to my demand. On the eve of SOL running, I filed my Complaint and added a Bad Faith Claim attaching every email, medical bill, photograph, and letter I had sent seeking a resolution to the matter. The court was not amused. We settled in 14 days.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
They couldn't end it in 24 months.

Sure they could. Donate tomahawk missiles, and a shitload of in-storage bradleys. Donate patriot missiles. Allow swedish-donated awacs to patrol over Ukraine territory. Stir unrest in east-russian regions. Have weaponry accidentally leak to Chechnyan rebels, for example.

ruzzia won't last 24 months if the US understands that they can defeat a foe and win a friend, while showing China that US stands by their allies.

Sadly, this is not on agent krasnov's mission briefing.

The way to force Russia to the table would be to threaten to lift the restrictions on how Ukraine utilises US weapons and threaten to deliver more not less.

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Originally posted by nute:
The way to force Russia to the table would be to threaten to lift the restrictions on how Ukraine utilises US weapons and threaten to deliver more not less.

Unless you are pulling for Russia to win, then you would abandon the Ukrainians and embrace Putin....exactly like the OJ is doing.

It is more than enough to make me sick

Trump and the GOP have prolonged the war, encouraged Putin and caused many deaths.

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Originally posted by nute:
The way to force Russia to the table would be to threaten to lift the restrictions on how Ukraine utilises US weapons and threaten to deliver more not less.

Do we have these weapons in endless supply?

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by nute:
The way to force Russia to the table would be to threaten to lift the restrictions on how Ukraine utilises US weapons and threaten to deliver more not less.

Do we have these weapons in endless supply?

You don't actually need any, according to Lavaca you only need to threaten things. Trump is the master at the art of the deal so he will get it right, don't worry. Just look at how well he has done so far.

From what we see on the news, Holomodor 2.0 will not be welcomed with flowers.

“But it’s a very easy negotiation to take place. I will have it solved within one day, a peace between them.”

~ The Orange Messiah

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . master of the deal.

Ahhhh, Trump, the master of bombast and bullshit….

It takes two to Tango and if its any consolation, Trump has made more of an effort in trying than it ever crossed Biden's mind, to get those two to sort out their differences and come to a compromise.

"Win some, lose some"

A compromise? How do you compromise with an invader?

What compromise do you suppose Ukraine should accept? Give up a quarter of their country? A half? Maybe all?

You Trumpeteers make me laugh. You're far from the freedom fighters who created the US. They wouldn't accept a compromise. You would have been compromising.

How come you have zero empathy with the freedom fighters in Ukraine?

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Originally posted by fulvio:
It takes two to Tango and if its any consolation, Trump has made more of an effort in trying than it ever crossed Biden's mind, to get those two to sort out their differences and come to a compromise.

"Win some, lose some"

He has forced the victim to do what he wants by shutting off intelligence sharing and functionality of GPS and weapons, but has done nothing to the aggressor, and you think this is great.

Whereas Biden provided the victim with the means to defend itself ….

Which of these two courses of action accords with US values, which course of action would your grandpa have supported?

There has been compromise for sure in other context.

Compromise resulted in Trump getting elected.

And Trump is compromised in his relation to Putin, and his oath of office and relation to the constitution.

IOW, the nation has been hacked.

What does it mean if something is compromised?

AI Overview
If something is compromised, it means it has been damaged, weakened, or made vulnerable, usually by unauthorized access, exposure, or some other form of breach. This can apply to various things like data, systems, passwords, or even one's reputation.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Data Compromise:
When sensitive information is revealed or accessed without authorization.

System Compromise:
When a computer, network, or other system is made vulnerable to attack or misuse due to security flaws.

Account Compromise:
When a user's login credentials (username and password) are obtained and used by an unauthorized person.

Reputation Compromise:
When someone's reputation is damaged or exposed to suspicion due to their actions or exposure to something negative.

Function Compromise:
When the ability of something to function properly is impaired or weakened. For example, a compromised immune system is less effective at fighting off diseases.

Moral Compromise:
When someone weakens their own principles or standards, often to achieve a desired outcome.

============================================================================

There are so many examples of compromised:

https://youtube.com/shorts/6TI...?si=tfqTd97qDQuqHxDf
'Don't Lose Sight of This Story

https://youtube.com/shorts/M5o...?si=h7WVtdqoaq3X1MjW
When Elizabeth Warren Schooled CNBC on the Constitution

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
A compromise? How do you compromise with an invader?

What compromise do you suppose Ukraine should accept? Give up a quarter of their country? A half? Maybe all?

You Trumpeteers make me laugh. You're far from the freedom fighters who created the US. They wouldn't accept a compromise. You would have been compromising.

How come you have zero empathy with the freedom fighters in Ukraine?

In your mind Putin woke up one morning and said: "Seeing we have fuck all else to do, let's invade the Ukraine"

Or was the invasion in part due to the harassment of ethnic Russians living in that tiny segment of the Ukraine where for example the same were being persecuted for speaking Russian?

Would your Administration harass and victimize Mexicans speaking Spanish on American soil or deny them jobs because they were Mexican?

You feel sympathetic towards a country whose clown for President was able to fleece your economy for $Billions ($32B was the last quoted figure) and unable to account for at least $10B
which very likely ended up in someone's pocket.

Do you want to calculate the value of armaments in their various forms that went to the Ukraine both from the US and EU with bugger all to show other than it all ending up as a pile of junk?

How come the majority of able-bodied persons (men and women) took the high road and are enjoying social benefits as refugees all over the EU?

Yeah, keep squandering your money to support the "freedom fighters" under the lily-white/pussy pure Zelensky who is a whole lot smarter and made fools of those supporting him.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
A compromise? How do you compromise with an invader?

What compromise do you suppose Ukraine should accept? Give up a quarter of their country? A half? Maybe all?

You Trumpeteers make me laugh. You're far from the freedom fighters who created the US. They wouldn't accept a compromise. You would have been compromising.

How come you have zero empathy with the freedom fighters in Ukraine?

In your mind Putin woke up one morning and said: "Seeing we have fuck all else to do, let's invade the Ukraine"

Or was the invasion in part due to the harassment of ethnic Russians living in that tiny segment of the Ukraine where for example the same were being persecuted for speaking Russian?

Would your Administration harass and victimize Mexicans speaking Spanish on American soil or deny them jobs because they were Mexican?

You feel sympathetic towards a country whose clown for President was able to fleece your economy for $Billions ($32B was the last quoted figure) and unable to account for at least $10B
which very likely ended up in someone's pocket.

Do you want to calculate the value of armaments in their various forms that went to the Ukraine both from the US and EU with bugger all to show other than it all ending up as a pile of junk?

How come the majority of able-bodied persons (men and women) took the high road and are enjoying social benefits as refugees all over the EU?

Yeah, keep squandering your money to support the "freedom fighters" under the lily-white/pussy pure Zelensky who is a whole lot smarter and made fools of those supporting him.

Spoken like a true supporter of Putin and all the violence that he has brought to the world

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Originally posted by fulvio:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
A compromise? How do you compromise with an invader?

What compromise do you suppose Ukraine should accept? Give up a quarter of their country? A half? Maybe all?

You Trumpeteers make me laugh. You're far from the freedom fighters who created the US. They wouldn't accept a compromise. You would have been compromising.

How come you have zero empathy with the freedom fighters in Ukraine?

In your mind Putin woke up one morning and said: "Seeing we have fuck all else to do, let's invade the Ukraine"

Or was the invasion in part due to the harassment of ethnic Russians living in that tiny segment of the Ukraine where for example the same were being persecuted for speaking Russian?

Would your Administration harass and victimize Mexicans speaking Spanish on American soil or deny them jobs because they were Mexican?

You feel sympathetic towards a country whose clown for President was able to fleece your economy for $Billions ($32B was the last quoted figure) and unable to account for at least $10B
which very likely ended up in someone's pocket.

Do you want to calculate the value of armaments in their various forms that went to the Ukraine both from the US and EU with bugger all to show other than it all ending up as a pile of junk?

How come the majority of able-bodied persons (men and women) took the high road and are enjoying social benefits as refugees all over the EU?

Yeah, keep squandering your money to support the "freedom fighters" under the lily-white/pussy pure Zelensky who is a whole lot smarter and made fools of those supporting him.

Wow. Another supporter of the Russian KGB thug.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
A compromise? How do you compromise with an invader?

What compromise do you suppose Ukraine should accept? Give up a quarter of their country? A half? Maybe all?

You Trumpeteers make me laugh. You're far from the freedom fighters who created the US. They wouldn't accept a compromise. You would have been compromising.

How come you have zero empathy with the freedom fighters in Ukraine?

In your mind Putin woke up one morning and said: "Seeing we have fuck all else to do, let's invade the Ukraine"

Or was the invasion in part due to the harassment of ethnic Russians living in that tiny segment of the Ukraine where for example the same were being persecuted for speaking Russian?

Would your Administration harass and victimize Mexicans speaking Spanish on American soil or deny them jobs because they were Mexican?

You feel sympathetic towards a country whose clown for President was able to fleece your economy for $Billions ($32B was the last quoted figure) and unable to account for at least $10B
which very likely ended up in someone's pocket.

Do you want to calculate the value of armaments in their various forms that went to the Ukraine both from the US and EU with bugger all to show other than it all ending up as a pile of junk?

How come the majority of able-bodied persons (men and women) took the high road and are enjoying social benefits as refugees all over the EU?

Yeah, keep squandering your money to support the "freedom fighters" under the lily-white/pussy pure Zelensky who is a whole lot smarter and made fools of those supporting him.

Hey comrade, slava Ukraine !!

The majority of ethnic Russians in the east have been self governing since Putin started financing and arming separatists ( and shooting down civilian aircraft).

You should check your facts too as the vast majority of refugees fleeing are female or children.

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Spoken like a true supporter of Putin and all the violence that he has brought to the world

The USA has probably started and lost more wars than Putin.

Talk about the $Billions squandered and what has been gobbled by your hero Zelensky instead.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

quote:

Spoken like a true supporter of Putin and all the violence that he has brought to the world

The USA has probably started and lost more wars than Putin.

Talk about the $Billions squandered and what has been gobbled by your hero Zelensky instead.

I find anyone who stands up to Russian aggression to be a hero, I grew during the Reagan years.

Billions mean nothing when the context is a choice between a free world and one under the thumb of Putin.

Unless of course you are rooting for the SOB, as you appear to be doing.

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Unless of course you are rooting for the SOB, as you appear to be doing.

Not at all, Putin is what he is and you guys get all paranoid every time Russia gets mentioned.
One would have thought that the end of the Cold War would put a lid on it but that's just dreaming.

So please enlighten me as to what the squabble between these two morons is all about as my limited knowledge indicates Putin wants a small piece back, you know, the one which is full of ethnic Russians, Donbas I believe but maybe he wants the entire Ukraine.

Strangely enough and of course I haven't a clue as to why, the Ukraine is not going to be allowed to join NATO, not in a hurry anyway.

Ah, of course, that would be the doing of the Orange man but then why didn't Sleepy Joe take Ukraine on board to ward Putin off; Putin is shit scared of the Alliance is he not?

quote:

Originally posted by fulvio:

quote:

Spoken like a true supporter of Putin and all the violence that he has brought to the world

The USA has probably started and lost more wars than Putin.

Talk about the $Billions squandered and what has been gobbled by your hero Zelensky instead.

How many billions will it cost when Putin takes Ukraine and attacks a NATO country?

Of course Trump will defend Putin attacking a NATO country as it's been proven over and over he's a Russian asset.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

quote:

Unless of course you are rooting for the SOB, as you appear to be doing.

Not at all, Putin is what he is and you guys get all paranoid every time Russia gets mentioned.
One would have thought that the end of the Cold War would put a lid on it but that's just dreaming.

So please enlighten me as to what the squabble between these two morons is all about as my limited knowledge indicates Putin wants a small piece back, you know, the one which is full of ethnic Russians, Donbas I believe but maybe he wants the entire Ukraine.

Strangely enough and of course I haven't a clue as to why, the Ukraine is not going to be allowed to join NATO, not in a hurry anyway.

Ah, of course, that would be the doing of the Orange man but then why didn't Sleepy Joe take Ukraine on board to ward Putin off; Putin is shit scared of the Alliance is he not?

A major war in Europe, what's the big deal? Just let Putin be who he is, the loss of civilian life really isn't that import. If Putin wants part or all of a sovereign country, just let him have it. So what? I mean, isn't he entitled to any piece of ground where the Russian language is spoken? Maybe we should give him Alaska too, after all it was once part of Russia.

You are just another nutter that will approve of anything that orange turd does, even supporting Putin and the war crimes he has committed.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by fulvio:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
A compromise? How do you compromise with an invader?

What compromise do you suppose Ukraine should accept? Give up a quarter of their country? A half? Maybe all?

You Trumpeteers make me laugh. You're far from the freedom fighters who created the US. They wouldn't accept a compromise. You would have been compromising.

How come you have zero empathy with the freedom fighters in Ukraine?

In your mind Putin woke up one morning and said: "Seeing we have fuck all else to do, let's invade the Ukraine"

Or was the invasion in part due to the harassment of ethnic Russians living in that tiny segment of the Ukraine where for example the same were being persecuted for speaking Russian?

Would your Administration harass and victimize Mexicans speaking Spanish on American soil or deny them jobs because they were Mexican?

You feel sympathetic towards a country whose clown for President was able to fleece your economy for $Billions ($32B was the last quoted figure) and unable to account for at least $10B
which very likely ended up in someone's pocket.

Do you want to calculate the value of armaments in their various forms that went to the Ukraine both from the US and EU with bugger all to show other than it all ending up as a pile of junk?

How come the majority of able-bodied persons (men and women) took the high road and are enjoying social benefits as refugees all over the EU?

Yeah, keep squandering your money to support the "freedom fighters" under the lily-white/pussy pure Zelensky who is a whole lot smarter and made fools of those supporting him.

Wow. Another supporter of the Russian KGB thug.

I wonder if fulvio is closely related to Saeed? They obviously are joined at the hip regarding Putin as an innocent victim of Ukraine aggression…