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We are not the ones overturning centuries of precedent that protect people from the mob of legislatures.


Not exactly sure what you’re referring to with centuries. Can’t be abortion.

But I will say you are exactly the one to urge on overturning two centuries of precedent of allowing prayer in schools. Wink


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You were raised more wealth than I was.


You might be equal at zero…but you weren’t raised poorer than I and I suspect a little richer.


Your father was a professor at Texas A&M and you were raised poor? Damn, sounds like TX needs to raise teacher salaries…. And Trump love’s Trump in true narcissist fashion. Trump was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth and certainly didn’t pull himself up by his bootstraps…


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You were raised more wealth than I was.


You might be equal at zero…but you weren’t raised poorer than I and I suspect a little richer.


Your father was a professor at Texas A&M and you were raised poor? Damn, sounds like TX needs to raise teacher salaries…. And Trump love’s Trump in true narcissist fashion. Trump was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth and certainly didn’t pull himself up by his bootstraps…


My Dad was a non-tenure track lecturer in Range Management at Texas Tech University for 3 years - 1970 to 73. That paid about $10K a year back then. He went on to teach Livestock and Ranch Operations at Texas State Technical Institute 74-77. It paid a little better but nothing to write home about. We also ranched. We lived very meagerly. Later, after I left home in 1983, my Dad made some land and mineral investments that did do quite well. But I worked and paid my own way through undergrad and went through veterinary college on loans.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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You were raised more wealth than I was.


You might be equal at zero…but you weren’t raised poorer than I and I suspect a little richer.


Your father was a professor at Texas A&M and you were raised poor? Damn, sounds like TX needs to raise teacher salaries…. And Trump love’s Trump in true narcissist fashion. Trump was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth and certainly didn’t pull himself up by his bootstraps…


My Dad was a non-tenure track lecturer in Range Management at Texas Tech University for 3 years - 1970 to 73. That paid about $10K a year back then. He went on to teach Livestock and Ranch Operations at Texas State Technical Institute 74-77. It paid a little better but nothing to write home about. We also ranched. We lived very meagerly. Later, after I left home in 1983, my Dad made some land and mineral investments that did do quite well. But I worked and paid my own way through undergrad and went through veterinary college on loans.


Surely not socialist government-backed loans [insert gasp here]?


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You were raised more wealth than I was.


You might be equal at zero…but you weren’t raised poorer than I and I suspect a little richer.


Your father was a professor at Texas A&M and you were raised poor? Damn, sounds like TX needs to raise teacher salaries…. And Trump love’s Trump in true narcissist fashion. Trump was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth and certainly didn’t pull himself up by his bootstraps…


My Dad was a non-tenure track lecturer in Range Management at Texas Tech University for 3 years - 1970 to 73. That paid about $10K a year back then. He went on to teach Livestock and Ranch Operations at Texas State Technical Institute 74-77. It paid a little better but nothing to write home about. We also ranched. We lived very meagerly. Later, after I left home in 1983, my Dad made some land and mineral investments that did do quite well. But I worked and paid my own way through undergrad and went through veterinary college on loans.


Surely not socialist government-backed loans [insert gasp here]?


Nope. Borrowed from Jacksboro National Bank in Jacksboro, TX.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Did your father guarantee those loans? Hard to imagine a bank lending money to a fresh college graduate.

And wouldn't you have gotten a better rate with a federal student loan?

The unwillingness of banks and other lending institutions to make student loans is why there came to be a federal student loan program in the first place.
 
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I know how much land cost in Texas when you guys were buying ranches.

You can say all you want, my father was not a college professor. He was driving a coal truck and working overtime in a factory.

My biological mother raised tobacco and worked as a scab miner.
 
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Did your father guarantee those loans? Hard to imagine a bank lending money to a fresh college graduate.

And wouldn't you have gotten a better rate with a federal student loan?

The unwillingness of banks and other lending institutions to make student loans is why there came to be a federal student loan program in the first place.


The student loan rates were quite high in the 80s as I recall.

No, my father didn’t guarantee my note, in writing at least, it was just my signature. I didn’t borrow any money through undergrad. I paid as I went by working. I borrowed to get through professional school. I guess they made the bet that a professional, who they had a relationship with the family, would come through. It was a good bet.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I know how much land cost in Texas when you guys were buying ranches.

You can say all you want, my father was not a college professor. He was driving a coal truck and working overtime in a factory.

My biological mother raised tobacco and worked as a scab miner.


My family got started ranching in Texas by homesteading in Comanche territory in the 1880s. The family got so large however the original homestead could not even begin to support. A large part of the family made a living by leasing ranch land and borrowing money to turn out cattle — a way of life not much different from sharecropping. My dad did get educated though albeit slowly.

Anyone who thinks that ranching leased land on borrowed money is a more lucrative job than coal mining or tobacco farming should get them a taste of it.

Yes, through the 90’s (long after I left home) my Dad made some smart plays on land and minerals. Kudos to him for learning to multiply his own wealth by using his own brain after raising a family from sweat.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I'm just a curious spectator here (I don't profess to have a clue how the USA's politics work) , but after reading hours worth of posts on this forum felt the need to ask a question or 2 and maybe to make an observation.

The people voting for Kamala (who by the way seems to be a complete moron) and Joe ( who doesn't know what planet he is on), you obviously believe their vision for your country and their promises they keep making about the positive changes they intend making? Question: why don't they implement them now? They are in charge currently aren't they? Also out of 340 million people, are the 2 choices you face the best you can put forward?
While Donald isn't great, he seems to have the better values out of the 2 candidates. Kamala = woke. Donald= more traditional, conservative?

Kamala and her party seem to speak the same language as a little political party called the ANC. Very similar. Now if you are unsure of the utter devastation that their policies have brought about, I suggest some homework. Real homework not the fairy tale, freedom fighter bullshit they sold the world.
I have no idea why the left feels that it is such a good idea to accept so many people from other countries? We have the same issue from our neighbours and the terrible truth is that these "refugees" destroy the areas they inhabit. Have a look at a account on X called jozi vs jozi. Before and after pictures of areas in Johannesburg. 95% of the areas are where the illegals have moved in. If they cant make a success out of their own countries, they sure as shit aren't going to do it in yours.

Learn from us.


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I'm just a curious spectator here (I don't profess to have a clue how the USA's politics work) , but after reading hours worth of posts on this forum felt the need to ask a question or 2 and maybe to make an observation.

The people voting for Kamala (who by the way seems to be a complete moron) and Joe ( who doesn't know what planet he is on), you obviously believe their vision for your country and their promises they keep making about the positive changes they intend making? Question: why don't they implement them now? They are in charge currently aren't they? Also out of 340 million people, are the 2 choices you face the best you can put forward?
While Donald isn't great, he seems to have the better values out of the 2 candidates. Kamala = woke. Donald= more traditional, conservative?

Kamala and her party seem to speak the same language as a little political party called the ANC. Very similar. Now if you are unsure of the utter devastation that their policies have brought about, I suggest some homework. Real homework not the fairy tale, freedom fighter bullshit they sold the world.
I have no idea why the left feels that it is such a good idea to accept so many people from other countries? We have the same issue from our neighbours and the terrible truth is that these "refugees" destroy the areas they inhabit. Have a look at a account on X called jozi vs jozi. Before and after pictures of areas in Johannesburg. 95% of the areas are where the illegals have moved in. If they cant make a success out of their own countries, they sure as shit aren't going to do it in yours.

Learn from us.


You're right.

You don't have a clue.


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Dammit hey


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Dammit hey


Mike is frequently correct, but he's never been more spot-on than that you have no clue.

Trump has better values? Trump has only one value, his own self-interest.


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I know how much land cost in Texas when you guys were buying ranches.

You can say all you want, my father was not a college professor. He was driving a coal truck and working overtime in a factory.

My biological mother raised tobacco and worked as a scab miner.


My family got started ranching in Texas by homesteading in Comanche territory in the 1880s. The family got so large however the original homestead could not even begin to support. A large part of the family made a living by leasing ranch land and borrowing money to turn out cattle — a way of life not much different from sharecropping. My dad did get educated though albeit slowly.

Anyone who thinks that ranching leased land on borrowed money is a more lucrative job than coal mining or tobacco farming should get them a taste of it.

Yes, through the 90’s (long after I left home) my Dad made some smart plays on land and minerals. Kudos to him for learning to multiply his own wealth by using his own brain after raising a family from sweat.


I was attending law school around the same time and tuition, at a public school anyway, wasn't that much. And, virtually anybody could get a student loan and almost everybody was eligible for Pell Grants back then....we were all poor or no better than middle class at my public law school....money you didn't have to pay back.

It wasn't that onerous. You make it sound like you were walking uphill through snow-drifts and that is BS. Virtually anybody seeking a graduate degree was eligible, tuition was cheap and, as I stated, lots of grants were available back then. My recollection is that the payments on student loans were quite low too. I was sending them money for years.


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Jeff - "seems" and if you don't think all politicians are in it, only for themselves then you should probably have a cork on the end of your fork when eating.


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I'm just a curious spectator here (I don't profess to have a clue how the USA's politics work) , but after reading hours worth of posts on this forum felt the need to ask a question or 2 and maybe to make an observation.

The people voting for Kamala (who by the way seems to be a complete moron) and Joe ( who doesn't know what planet he is on), you obviously believe their vision for your country and their promises they keep making about the positive changes they intend making? Question: why don't they implement them now? They are in charge currently aren't they? Also out of 340 million people, are the 2 choices you face the best you can put forward?
While Donald isn't great, he seems to have the better values out of the 2 candidates. Kamala = woke. Donald= more traditional, conservative?

Kamala and her party seem to speak the same language as a little political party called the ANC. Very similar. Now if you are unsure of the utter devastation that their policies have brought about, I suggest some homework. Real homework not the fairy tale, freedom fighter bullshit they sold the world.
I have no idea why the left feels that it is such a good idea to accept so many people from other countries? We have the same issue from our neighbours and the terrible truth is that these "refugees" destroy the areas they inhabit. Have a look at a account on X called jozi vs jozi. Before and after pictures of areas in Johannesburg. 95% of the areas are where the illegals have moved in. If they cant make a success out of their own countries, they sure as shit aren't going to do it in yours.

Learn from us.


Pissing on Biden & Harris while pretending to not know trump's totally shitty history.
 
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