What does that really mean?

This post was inspired by:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Why is it that Americans/Dems on here calling Americans stupid?
People might ask question and get stupid answer or do something stupid but thats very few and far between
Is it something that people say when they have inferior complex?

"Stupid" isn't "very few and far between". It's rampant.

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To answer the OP question, first we have to define "stupid".

IMO it's not as easy as you might think. I don't mean to overwhelm. I just think this has depth.

And also, it's defined in ways you might not have previously thought of.

https://youtu.be/LqelpONZvpw?si=fTn-LOKvCp8g_Pme

The Stupidity Epidemic: Why Critical Thinking is Dying

Here's an analysis of the thoughts of one philosopher she mentions:

https://youtu.be/QYl9PKHx1RA?si=i4x4hHFu3QInQreZ

The Theory of STUPIDITY | Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Then:

The initial thought about "stupid" could be expanded to include questions like abiding rules or breaking them, thinking outside the "box" or closed loop cognitive bias. The "box" has to be identified first. What is the root of radicalization, belief in fiction, worldview and ideology? How is "stupid" as defined above appropriated and manipulated?

https://youtu.be/i5HN5pEk_aI?si=erVKwwJFqmduwrG_

Inside Elon Musk’s Mind: A Psychiatrist’s Analysis Of His Genius & Dark Side

And Elon Musk wants to teach children to think like him:

https://www.the-independent.co...spacex-b2679669.html

Elon Musk foundation funds new school near Space X headquarters. Here’s what life is like inside
Musk said recently that education should be ‘as close to playing a video game as possible’

Katie Hawkinson
in Washington D.C.
Tuesday 14 January 2025 19:29 EST

Also:

https://www.google.com/search?...B9Ad&sclient=gws-wiz

Right now there is no more stupid people than Trump worshippers!

And they call themselves CONSERVATIVES???

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And they call themselves CONSERVATIVES???

Here's another post that inspired me to delve into "stupid". (A twofer)

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Originally posted by 450 Fuller:

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Originally posted by 450 Fuller:
JTEX:

Do you see why I only visit this portion of AR
when I want to exercise my intellect? Sad, it's like fencing with unarmed opponents.
Or wrestling with piggies, giving them no added brains to room temp IQs, but one could get all muddy. Name-calling from the left is truly a badge of honor. Sticks and stones, but we conservatives are making progress.

Sam Houston was right. So was Emiliano Zapata, the Mexican revolutionary with principles and honor.
He stated:" Quiero morir siendo esclavo de los principios, no de los hombres". Tierra y Libertad.

Both Houston and Zapata felt that their respective countries were more important than self-indulgent politicians or their substandard supporters.

Those who have'nt studied or hunted in Texas have missed out.

We are conservative because we have much to conserve, just like Jefferson, Paine, and Henry.

And here he admitted that he violated the law, his constitutional oath, in his official capacity:

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Originally posted by 450 Fuller:
As a former ICE Special Agent, we used to arrest and Deport Iranians in defiance of some Federal judges'
injunctions against street stops. I personally violated the injunction in Chicago.
No US Marshals intervened because they were behind us and many were personal friends. Now ICE is being returned to what INS and the Border Patrol needed to be doing all along...

In the context of the videos defining "stupid" above, where does that fit in, if it does?

The way I figure it, all those who participated in the Capitol invasion on 1/6/21 are stupid, especially those convicted. And Trump's pardon - - well "stupid" is not sufficient to describe that. But it is a directly related consequence of stupid on a mass scale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...sidential%20election.

I will not demean others just “ because “ I don’t agree with them
Say what you will, it don’t make me no never mind no how

Demeaning is not my intent.

You asked two questions, and expressed bewilderment.

I answered them. And, I didn't call you stupid. I gave you information that you may judge for yourself.

Just because you don't agree with me, or I don't agree with you isn't the point. It's not personal that way.

The point is to look deeper as to why the nation is polarized.

Do you agree that there has to be a reason?

"Alternative facts" are not the reason. That's superficial. Why are there alternative facts?

https://youtu.be/VSrEEDQgFc8?si=acwsXmCDJvttnT6l
Kellyanne Conway: Press Secretary Sean Spicer Gave 'Alternative Facts' | Meet The Press | NBC News

When was the last time we or you saw that facts mattered in changing someone's opinion herein?

When facts don't matter, that's the stupid I'm talking about.

And, here's more on Elon Musk's worldview:

https://youtu.be/1vSdYjKaPes?si=m_3SCH8wusAuDMnF

https://www.msn.com/en-us/heal...1f647a53f8beff&ei=69

Parents of unvaccinated 6-year-old killed by measles in Texas speak out. They still are anti-vax
Story by Gustaf Kilander • 4h • 3 min read

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Demeaning is not my intent.

You asked two questions, and expressed bewilderment.

I answered them. And, I didn't call you stupid. I gave you information that you may judge for yourself.

Just because you don't agree with me, or I don't agree with you isn't the point. It's not personal that way.

The point is to look deeper as to why the nation is polarized.

Do you agree that there has to be a reason?

"Alternative facts" are not the reason. That's superficial. Why are there alternative facts?

https://youtu.be/VSrEEDQgFc8?si=acwsXmCDJvttnT6l
Kellyanne Conway: Press Secretary Sean Spicer Gave 'Alternative Facts' | Meet The Press | NBC News

When was the last time we or you saw that facts mattered in changing someone's opinion herein?

When facts don't matter, that's the stupid I'm talking about.

And, here's more on Elon Musk's worldview:

https://youtu.be/1vSdYjKaPes?si=m_3SCH8wusAuDMnF

Ok I’ll answer one question…when was there ever nation, tribe, family that ever has not been polarized

If you just look through our nation history, polarization has always been there and always will be
Polarization disappears the moment government bans all parties and all dissent with draconian measures as history shows us

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Polarization disappears the moment government bans all parties and all dissent with draconian measures as history shows us

That's what some of us are concerned about.

First, Trump stirs it and Fox News makes a lot of money off it. They do it not for care of the country, but for other reasons.

Polarization is a fascist tool, and authoritarian and demagogue tool, then unity is achieved through force and coercion.

That's what history shows, and it's happening again now.

It's a result caused by mass stupidity.

Polarization is not a “fascist” tool.

It’s something that politics causes.

The left has been pushing polarization for quite some time. As has the right.

You are one of the polarized as you blame the other side for all that is wrong.

I have been saying similar for some time.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Polarization disappears the moment government bans all parties and all dissent with draconian measures as history shows us

That's what some of us are concerned about.

First, Trump stirs it and Fox News makes a lot of money off it. They do it not for care of the country, but for other reasons.

Polarization is a fascist tool, and authoritarian and demagogue tool, then unity is achieved through force and coercion.

That's what history shows, and it's happening again now.

It's a result caused by mass stupidity.

Are you then a fascist, as your post was meant to polarize for your POV?

Some children believe only the other side is dirty...

Well, phucking excuse me for thinking it was utterly obvious that Trump uses and stirs polarization.

And also pardon me for being naive as to how far spin could go.

And please pardon me for being so naive thinking most fellow Americans had the capacity to recognize reality.

My bad.

I have to admit that Trumpism IS reality simply because it exists. But I won't admit that the reason it exists is reality.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
I have been saying similar for some time.

Well, if the Right results in Trumpism, how's that figure in the right and wrong assessment in the context of the founding principles?

Some have the notion that Trumpism is a reaction to ---- whatever. What if Trumpism were to own, unilaterally, their BS?

IMO, it seems to me that one distinguishing factor between left and right is that the left does unilaterally own their stuff. The right blames the left and reacts.

The Right can't formulate a governance that isn't about destroying progressivism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b4bdf0ee63c1d1&ei=49

"I don't regret the vote": Why most Trump voters stand by him, even as he ruins their lives
Opinion by Amanda Marcotte • 16h • 7 min read

I think this is very interesting:

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-...-return-234931269591

'One of the greatest political athletes': 'Revenge' tells the story of Trump's return

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
I have been saying similar for some time.

Some have the notion that Trumpism is a reaction to ---- whatever.

This might well be an example. List the whatever's ME.

WOKE, the radical left, American Carnage, two-tier justice, BLM, Establishment, Deep State, replacement theory, critical thinking (indoctrination) taught in colleges, the phase of the moon, etc.