TDS explained perfectly

"TDS is a psychological condition induced by the requirement to make of Donald Trump a worse villain than even the worst imaginable villainies of the Democrats. So that all the evil the left does and is planning can be justified by the constant insistence that, no matter how badly we behave Trump would be worse," and "no matter what we do in the future Trump would do worse."
"Trump now literally has to be Hitler,"

"Why? Because the Democrats have now taken their ideological corruption so far that only such a comparison suffices to make their primary opponent a threat more dangerous than the one they themselves clearly pose. "Trump Derangement Syndrome: Because no matter how horrible we are, he has to be worse."

To me it's not seeing anything good in the guy and trying to justify it at every opportunity that presents itself.

Of course, Trump Derangement Syndrome could just be descriptive of the derangement the former President shows daily. Having said this, he has shown flashes of comparative brilliance. For instance, Donald Trump recognized that Covid originated in China and was willing to say so publicly. How many on the Democrat side were willing to say this? Of course, he then did absolutely nothing with this knowledge, but still.
No, Trump Derangement Syndrome is just another label for critical thinking. Anyone who acknowledges that DJT told a lie, is labeled as having TDS. Anyone who does not believe the reality TV personality is the best we can do for president is labeled as having TDS. Of course, the other aspect is that anyone who does not absolutely worship DJT, must then be a full supporter of the Democratic party and have a Kamala Harris pin-up in their bedroom (shudder).
What a mess we are in. Bill.

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is obviously a label dreamt up by Trumpsters for their benefit, to fill a void in their understanding, and inability to explain his repulsion to many. Trumpsters like catch-phrases, as a crutch for critical thinking deficiency.

The term TDS is an attack constructed to be emotionally satisfying to Trumpsters; not an explanation.

It also implies that the repulsion of many is about him, his personality; Trump specifically not including Trumpism as a whole. That's satisfying to Trumpsters, but like so much, it's not the whole truth.

So, in essence it's a psycho projection, among many, in terms they can understand and means something to them from where they are coming from. It means practically nothing to anti-Trumpsters, except the flip-side reflection on Trumpsters.

Thus, in reality, Trumpsters are afflicted with TDS.

The words "ideological corruption" were used in the OP as part of the explanation for the supposed Left's TDS. If viewed as a flip-side reflection, as I describe, it makes sense that Trumpsters would FEEL satisfaction from the catch-phrase TDS projection.

It's a pitiful situation when the primary tools of a political party and worldview are psycho projection, emotional feelings, catch phrases, cultism, and so forth.

And we wonder why the polarization.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
Of course, Trump Derangement Syndrome could just be descriptive of the derangement the former President shows daily. Having said this, he has shown flashes of comparative brilliance. For instance, Donald Trump recognized that Covid originated in China and was willing to say so publicly. How many on the Democrat side were willing to say this? Of course, he then did absolutely nothing with this knowledge, but still.
No, Trump Derangement Syndrome is just another label for critical thinking. Anyone who acknowledges that DJT told a lie, is labeled as having TDS. Anyone who does not believe the reality TV personality is the best we can do for president is labeled as having TDS. Of course, the other aspect is that anyone who does not absolutely worship DJT, must then be a full supporter of the Democratic party and have a Kamala Harris pin-up in their bedroom (shudder).
What a mess we are in. Bill.

Absolutely nobody with an education past 6th grade ever disputed that COVID-19 emerged in China, and the 6th graders were open-minded about it.

That passes for "comparative brilliance"?

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
TDS explained perfectly

"TDS is a psychological condition induced by the requirement to make of Donald Trump a worse villain than even the worst imaginable villainies of the Democrats. So that all the evil the left does and is planning can be justified by the constant insistence that, no matter how badly we behave Trump would be worse," and "no matter what we do in the future Trump would do worse."
"Trump now literally has to be Hitler,"

"Why? Because the Democrats have now taken their ideological corruption so far that only such a comparison suffices to make their primary opponent a threat more dangerous than the one they themselves clearly pose. "Trump Derangement Syndrome: Because no matter how horrible we are, he has to be worse."

He's a liar, a philanderer, a narcissist and worst of all, a seditionist. Now, he's talking about using the DOJ and other branches of government to seek revenge against his detractors for his perceived mistreatment if he is re-elected.

Anybody that supports him is deranged.

I have always felt that "TDS" is a great acronym for Trump Delusion Syndrome. The delusion that an immoral, corrupt, narcissist could be and should be President. The delusion that someone married multiple times, with a history of infidelity and affairs and abuse of women is someone representing family values. The delusion that someone that would rather lie than tell the truth when the truth is actually more interesting should be taken at his word when he claims the election was stolen, the rioters on January 6 were patriots. The delusion that someone who is a serial lawsuit abuser is in some way the "victim" of lawfare. I could go on but the point is obvious. Trumplicans live in an alternative universe that is based on delusions. TDS describes them perfectly.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
TDS explained perfectly

"TDS is a psychological condition induced by the requirement to make of Donald Trump a worse villain than even the worst imaginable villainies of the Democrats. So that all the evil the left does and is planning can be justified by the constant insistence that, no matter how badly we behave Trump would be worse," and "no matter what we do in the future Trump would do worse."
"Trump now literally has to be Hitler,"

"Why? Because the Democrats have now taken their ideological corruption so far that only such a comparison suffices to make their primary opponent a threat more dangerous than the one they themselves clearly pose. "Trump Derangement Syndrome: Because no matter how horrible we are, he has to be worse."

TDS refers to the easily manipulated who have been convinced that Trump cares for anyone but himself, that he has an IQ higher than his shoe size and that he won the 2016 election.

They try to pin the TDS label on anyone who recognises that Trump is a complete fucking moron (the opinion of some who have previously been appointed by him) because they have no better or more convincing argument in his support.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I have always felt that "TDS" is a great acronym for Trump Delusion Syndrome. The delusion that an immoral, corrupt, narcissist could be and should be President. The delusion that someone married multiple times, with a history of infidelity and affairs and abuse of women is someone representing family values. The delusion that someone that would rather lie than tell the truth when the truth is actually more interesting should be taken at his word when he claims the election was stolen, the rioters on January 6 were patriots. The delusion that someone who is a serial lawsuit abuser is in some way the "victim" of lawfare. I could go on but the point is obvious. Trumplicans live in an alternative universe that is based on delusions. TDS describes them perfectly.

Like myself, folks will vote for Trump for a variety of reasons.

Which leads me to this philosophical question;

Are 100% of your associates, whether friends or business all rabid Trump haters?

How about the group you hunt with regularly?

And if "some" or even one of them is a Trump voter, for whatever their reasons, Do you speak to and about them the way you do those of us in here?

This I ask because as I've said, I won't cuss at or use expletives to those who see their vote differently.

I race bicycles. That demographic is VERY liberal. Some of those guys are my best and closest friends. Guys that I trust to go handlebar to handlebar width in a sprint at 30MPH. I won't allow our political differences be the thing that ruins a friendship.

I may disagree to their voting, but not their ability to be quality human beings.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
I have always felt that "TDS" is a great acronym for Trump Delusion Syndrome. The delusion that an immoral, corrupt, narcissist could be and should be President. The delusion that someone married multiple times, with a history of infidelity and affairs and abuse of women is someone representing family values. The delusion that someone that would rather lie than tell the truth when the truth is actually more interesting should be taken at his word when he claims the election was stolen, the rioters on January 6 were patriots. The delusion that someone who is a serial lawsuit abuser is in some way the "victim" of lawfare. I could go on but the point is obvious. Trumplicans live in an alternative universe that is based on delusions. TDS describes them perfectly.

Like myself, folks will vote for Trump for a variety of reasons.

Which leads me to this philosophical question;

Are 100% of your associates, whether friends or business all rabid Trump haters?

How about the group you hunt with regularly?

And if "some" or even one of them is a Trump voter, for whatever their reasons, Do you speak to and about them the way you do those of us in here?

This I ask because as I've said, I won't cuss at or use expletives to those who see their vote differently.

I race bicycles. That demographic is VERY liberal. Some of those guys are my best and closest friends. Guys that I trust to go handlebar to handlebar width in a sprint at 30MPH. I won't allow our political differences be the thing that ruins a friendship.

I may disagree to their voting, but not their ability to be quality human beings.

That's a valid outlook until one candidate has been convicted of crimes to get elected, indicted for crimes to overturn his failure to get re-elected and promises to terminate parts of the Constitution if elected.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
I have always felt that "TDS" is a great acronym for Trump Delusion Syndrome. The delusion that an immoral, corrupt, narcissist could be and should be President. The delusion that someone married multiple times, with a history of infidelity and affairs and abuse of women is someone representing family values. The delusion that someone that would rather lie than tell the truth when the truth is actually more interesting should be taken at his word when he claims the election was stolen, the rioters on January 6 were patriots. The delusion that someone who is a serial lawsuit abuser is in some way the "victim" of lawfare. I could go on but the point is obvious. Trumplicans live in an alternative universe that is based on delusions. TDS describes them perfectly.

Like myself, folks will vote for Trump for a variety of reasons.

Which leads me to this philosophical question;

Are 100% of your associates, whether friends or business all rabid Trump haters?

How about the group you hunt with regularly?

And if "some" or even one of them is a Trump voter, for whatever their reasons, Do you speak to and about them the way you do those of us in here?

This I ask because as I've said, I won't cuss at or use expletives to those who see their vote differently.

I race bicycles. That demographic is VERY liberal. Some of those guys are my best and closest friends. Guys that I trust to go handlebar to handlebar width in a sprint at 30MPH. I won't allow our political differences be the thing that ruins a friendship.

I may disagree to their voting, but not their ability to be quality human beings.

That's a valid outlook until one candidate has been convicted of crimes to get elected, indicted for crimes to overturn his failure to get re-elected and promises to terminate parts of the Constitution if elected.

Which screams validity to "our" suspicions that this conviction is political in nature.

I make no secret about my feelings about Trump to anyone that inquires. With friends and family, most responsible people will steer away from political debate and focus their conversations on things much more meaningful and significant since they appreciate that people can be of different political views. On the other hand, this is "The Political Forum", not the campfire on a fishing trip or a hunting trip. I sort of figured that given the name of the forum and nature of the dialogue here, that political debate was the subject de jure. Unlike friends and family engaged in activities together like hunting or fishing, who have no way of separating themselves from a political debate, here folks have the option to steer clear of dialogue by not coming to the forum.

There is an old adage that polite conversation should not include talk of politics or religion. There is a time and place for polite conversation and there is a time and place for the discussion of politics and religion. This seems to be the place for the latter. Someone that does not wish to engage in that discussion can easily avoid it.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I make no secret about my feelings about Trump to anyone that inquires. With friends and family, most responsible people will steer away from political debate and focus their conversations on things much more meaningful and significant since they appreciate that people can be of different political views. On the other hand, this is "The Political Forum", not the campfire on a fishing trip or a hunting trip. I sort of figured that given the name of the forum and nature of the dialogue here, that political debate was the subject de jure. Unlike friends and family engaged in activities together like hunting or fishing, who have no way of separating themselves from a political debate, here folks have the option to steer clear of dialogue by not coming to the forum.

There is an old adage that polite conversation should not include talk of politics or religion. There is a time and place for polite conversation and there is a time and place for the discussion of politics and religion. This seems to be the place for the latter. Someone that does not wish to engage in that discussion can easily avoid it.

And Ballistics.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I make no secret about my feelings about Trump to anyone that inquires. With friends and family, most responsible people will steer away from political debate and focus their conversations on things much more meaningful and significant since they appreciate that people can be of different political views. On the other hand, this is "The Political Forum", not the campfire on a fishing trip or a hunting trip. I sort of figured that given the name of the forum and nature of the dialogue here, that political debate was the subject de jure. Unlike friends and family engaged in activities together like hunting or fishing, who have no way of separating themselves from a political debate, here folks have the option to steer clear of dialogue by not coming to the forum.

There is an old adage that polite conversation should not include talk of politics or religion. There is a time and place for polite conversation and there is a time and place for the discussion of politics and religion. This seems to be the place for the latter. Someone that does not wish to engage in that discussion can easily avoid it.

To add; take myself, I try to debate respectfully. However, others in her (not pointing at you) seems to outright hate me or others who don't agree politically.

Not sure why just being in a P&G format, civility needs to be ignored?

Take Heym or Jeff, I would bet they would avoid me in a neutral environment. I'd walk up, shake their hands and introduce myself.

If I have them pegged wrong, my bad.

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Do you speak to and about them the way you do those of us in here?

their ability to be quality human beings.

Offhand I can't think of a single friend who IDs as Left. Most of my acquaintances and relatives are Rightists. I mostly avoid talking about politics and religion with them. But when such topics come up, I do talk to and about them like I do herein. I also ask questions such as how do you figure that? The answers are always lame and not satisfying, or look-over-there/what-about-them.

The thing is that herein written words are easier to construct and express, and edit, than spoken words on the same topic.

I also have quips, such as "sweating like Trump in church", etc.

They all have redeeming qualities, to varying degrees, just as they are all wrong to varying degrees.

I very much think that supporting Trump is a clue window, an indicator, which diminishes trust in such people as to their ability to know and do the ethical thing. They will always default to the Right thing - pun intended. They show that the ethical and right thing isn't necessarily the same.

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Which screams validity to "our" suspicions that this conviction is political in nature.

Interesting choice of words.

Here's meaningful word construction that can be done herein, but practically impossible spoken.

When screams (emotion) of suspicion (theory), political in nature, turns into conviction deemed valid (alt-reality/truth), that's where respectful and rational debate ends.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
I have always felt that "TDS" is a great acronym for Trump Delusion Syndrome. The delusion that an immoral, corrupt, narcissist could be and should be President. The delusion that someone married multiple times, with a history of infidelity and affairs and abuse of women is someone representing family values. The delusion that someone that would rather lie than tell the truth when the truth is actually more interesting should be taken at his word when he claims the election was stolen, the rioters on January 6 were patriots. The delusion that someone who is a serial lawsuit abuser is in some way the "victim" of lawfare. I could go on but the point is obvious. Trumplicans live in an alternative universe that is based on delusions. TDS describes them perfectly.

Like myself, folks will vote for Trump for a variety of reasons.

Which leads me to this philosophical question;

Are 100% of your associates, whether friends or business all rabid Trump haters?

How about the group you hunt with regularly?

And if "some" or even one of them is a Trump voter, for whatever their reasons, Do you speak to and about them the way you do those of us in here?

This I ask because as I've said, I won't cuss at or use expletives to those who see their vote differently.

I race bicycles. That demographic is VERY liberal. Some of those guys are my best and closest friends. Guys that I trust to go handlebar to handlebar width in a sprint at 30MPH. I won't allow our political differences be the thing that ruins a friendship.

I may disagree to their voting, but not their ability to be quality human beings.

That's a valid outlook until one candidate has been convicted of crimes to get elected, indicted for crimes to overturn his failure to get re-elected and promises to terminate parts of the Constitution if elected.

Which screams validity to "our" suspicions that this conviction is political in nature.

The initial investigation started before the halfway point of the Trump Administration, then Attorney General Bill Barr came in and bigfooted it and said the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York was investigating for a Federal case, which was a lie but managed to stall things for a long time. The case was finally presented to a Grand Jury, which found grounds for indictments and presented to a jury selected by both the prosecution and defense and the jury returned 34 unanimous verdicts.

Aside from Bill Barr's interference, where's the "political" component?

I'm tired of Trump cult members responding "TDS" to every criticism of their golden boy.

It's the best they can do.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
I make no secret about my feelings about Trump to anyone that inquires. With friends and family, most responsible people will steer away from political debate and focus their conversations on things much more meaningful and significant since they appreciate that people can be of different political views. On the other hand, this is "The Political Forum", not the campfire on a fishing trip or a hunting trip. I sort of figured that given the name of the forum and nature of the dialogue here, that political debate was the subject de jure. Unlike friends and family engaged in activities together like hunting or fishing, who have no way of separating themselves from a political debate, here folks have the option to steer clear of dialogue by not coming to the forum.

There is an old adage that polite conversation should not include talk of politics or religion. There is a time and place for polite conversation and there is a time and place for the discussion of politics and religion. This seems to be the place for the latter. Someone that does not wish to engage in that discussion can easily avoid it.

To add; take myself, I try to debate respectfully. However, others in her (not pointing at you) seems to outright hate me or others who don't agree politically.

Not sure why just being in a P&G format, civility needs to be ignored?

Take Heym or Jeff, I would bet they would avoid me in a neutral environment. I'd walk up, shake their hands and introduce myself.

If I have them pegged wrong, my bad.

Called out lying and language of gays as abominations. Tidy some think they are more than the folks they attack.

Guilty.

I don’t know. I have never not shaken a hand.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
I make no secret about my feelings about Trump to anyone that inquires. With friends and family, most responsible people will steer away from political debate and focus their conversations on things much more meaningful and significant since they appreciate that people can be of different political views. On the other hand, this is "The Political Forum", not the campfire on a fishing trip or a hunting trip. I sort of figured that given the name of the forum and nature of the dialogue here, that political debate was the subject de jure. Unlike friends and family engaged in activities together like hunting or fishing, who have no way of separating themselves from a political debate, here folks have the option to steer clear of dialogue by not coming to the forum.

There is an old adage that polite conversation should not include talk of politics or religion. There is a time and place for polite conversation and there is a time and place for the discussion of politics and religion. This seems to be the place for the latter. Someone that does not wish to engage in that discussion can easily avoid it.

To add; take myself, I try to debate respectfully. However, others in her (not pointing at you) seems to outright hate me or others who don't agree politically.

Not sure why just being in a P&G format, civility needs to be ignored?

Take Heym or Jeff, I would bet they would avoid me in a neutral environment. I'd walk up, shake their hands and introduce myself.

If I have them pegged wrong, my bad.

I don't hate you, I pity you. Your overinflated ego tells you that you know better than 40 of the 44 people Trump appointed to cabinet-level positions, 40 Republicans who worked for him at a very high level who won't endorse him. Not since we switched to having Presidents and Vice-presidents run as a "ticket" has any Vice President refused to endorse the President they served under, until this one.

But you know better than all of them.

I think maybe Steve is trying to understand.

I like to play with words that represent ideas.

For example: "know better"

know
1 of 2
verb
ˈnō
knew ˈnü also ˈnyü ; known ˈnōn ; knowing
Synonyms of know
transitive verb

1
a
(1)
: to perceive directly : have direct cognition of
(2)
: to have understanding of
importance of knowing oneself
(3)
: to recognize the nature of : DISCERN
b
(1)
: to recognize as being the same as something previously known
(2)
: to be acquainted or familiar with
(3)
: to have experience of
2
a
: to be aware of the truth or factuality of : be convinced or certain of
b
: to have a practical understanding of
knows how to write

=====================================

"Know" is kinda like and associated with "Truth" in that it's subjective. Within the definition, the validity of "knowing" is not measured by reference or proximity with verifiable reality.

We see it all the time herein.

For example, many of us don't understand how some people came to "know" that Trump really won the last election, or that his prosecutions are really political persecutions, and worse - political weaponization of the rule of law.

We "know" how we came to the conclusions that such opinions are lies and are not true; not really what happened or what's happening.

It's the gap in "knowing" that is difficult; hard to bridge, when facts are not enough.

"Knowing" locks us into polarization. It's the thing that blocks reconciliation.

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"Why? Because the Democrats have now taken their ideological corruption so far that only such a comparison suffices to make their primary opponent a threat more dangerous than the one they themselves clearly pose. "Trump Derangement Syndrome: Because no matter how horrible we are, he has to be worse."

Spot on! Well written!

Mike Mitchell,

Bill Clinton was most of the things you accuse Trump of being, and while I didn't like him at the time, looking back, he wasn't all that damn bad.


And I don't agree that Trump was an insurrectionist.

Republican HRC Derangement Syndrome was real.

TDS is made up.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
Of course, Trump Derangement Syndrome could just be descriptive of the derangement the former President shows daily. Having said this, he has shown flashes of comparative brilliance. For instance, Donald Trump recognized that Covid originated in China and was willing to say so publicly. How many on the Democrat side were willing to say this? Of course, he then did absolutely nothing with this knowledge, but still.
No, Trump Derangement Syndrome is just another label for critical thinking. Anyone who acknowledges that DJT told a lie, is labeled as having TDS. Anyone who does not believe the reality TV personality is the best we can do for president is labeled as having TDS. Of course, the other aspect is that anyone who does not absolutely worship DJT, must then be a full supporter of the Democratic party and have a Kamala Harris pin-up in their bedroom (shudder).
What a mess we are in. Bill.

Absolutely nobody with an education past 6th grade ever disputed that COVID-19 emerged in China, and the 6th graders were open-minded about it.

That passes for "comparative brilliance"?

Bullshit. They tapdanced around it constantly. People bent over backwards to ignore the fact. I'm not saying they disputed it, they just refused to make it a factor in their decision making. Going further, there was no attempt made, by anyone, to keep covid out. Window dressing, but that's all. No body wanted to offend anyone. All of this is now water under the bridge, mind you.
Back to TDS, anyone who can think critically at all would have to see Donald Trump as a sham. He was one of the worst presidents we have had; Joe Biden is fighting hard for the honor. Bill.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
Of course, Trump Derangement Syndrome could just be descriptive of the derangement the former President shows daily. Having said this, he has shown flashes of comparative brilliance. For instance, Donald Trump recognized that Covid originated in China and was willing to say so publicly. How many on the Democrat side were willing to say this? Of course, he then did absolutely nothing with this knowledge, but still.
No, Trump Derangement Syndrome is just another label for critical thinking. Anyone who acknowledges that DJT told a lie, is labeled as having TDS. Anyone who does not believe the reality TV personality is the best we can do for president is labeled as having TDS. Of course, the other aspect is that anyone who does not absolutely worship DJT, must then be a full supporter of the Democratic party and have a Kamala Harris pin-up in their bedroom (shudder).
What a mess we are in. Bill.

Absolutely nobody with an education past 6th grade ever disputed that COVID-19 emerged in China, and the 6th graders were open-minded about it.

That passes for "comparative brilliance"?

Bullshit. They tapdanced around it constantly. People bent over backwards to ignore the fact. I'm not saying they disputed it, they just refused to make it a factor in their decision making. Going further, there was no attempt made, by anyone, to keep covid out. Window dressing, but that's all. No body wanted to offend anyone. All of this is now water under the bridge, mind you.
Back to TDS, anyone who can think critically at all would have to see Donald Trump as a sham. He was one of the worst presidents we have had; Joe Biden is fighting hard for the honor. Bill.

You have either lost your mind or you are, for some reason, telling the weakest lie in the history of written communication. As soon as the existence of the new virus was known its origin in Wuhan was solidly established. Trump calling it "the Chinese flu" was condemned as racist, which it was, but nobody "tapdanced" around where it emerged.

And "keep it out"? Just how would you have done that? There were hundreds of thousands of American citizens in China when the first human-to-human transmission was confirmed. Would you have denied them the right to come home? Stopped all air, land and sea travel to the U.S.?

Your damned right I'd have at least interfered with their trip home. I would not have denied all land, air, and sea travel to the US, but I would damn sure have quarantined every arrival. I would also have pressured countries of origin to screen passengers who were leaving. They have no issue with locking things down over a sick chicken. All of this would have been expensive and inconvenient and would not have made nearly as much money for Pharma, so there is that.
Of course, recognizing the disease was not generally a deadly threat, provided the opportunity to play around a little, and for some to make some money. I don't know that I have ever seen any situation where we were manipulated and lied to, to the extent we were during the covid scamdemic.
BTW, was labeling a strain of the flu the "Spanish Flu" also racist? Bill.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
Your damned right I'd have at least interfered with their trip home. I would not have denied all land, air, and sea travel to the US, but I would damn sure have quarantined every arrival. I would also have pressured countries of origin to screen passengers who were leaving. They have no issue with locking things down over a sick chicken. All of this would have been expensive and inconvenient and would not have made nearly as much money for Pharma, so there is that.
Of course, recognizing the disease was not generally a deadly threat, provided the opportunity to play around a little, and for some to make some money. I don't know that I have ever seen any situation where we were manipulated and lied to, to the extent we were during the covid scamdemic.
BTW, was labeling a strain of the flu the "Spanish Flu" also racist? Bill.

If "Spanish" were a race, it would be, as well as inaccurate since it didn't originate there.

For accuracy it should have been called the Kansas Flu.

I do not blame Trump for the virus going international and continental.

Trump more or less did what the scientists in government told him to do. Maybe a little slow, with his own stupidity thrown in on top, but I do not blame him for the shutdown/lockdown.

He did about as well as could be done w the situation. That includes mobilization for vaccine development.

No, neither calling the Spanish Flu nor Chinese flu is racist.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
Of course, Trump Derangement Syndrome could just be descriptive of the derangement the former President shows daily. Having said this, he has shown flashes of comparative brilliance. For instance, Donald Trump recognized that Covid originated in China and was willing to say so publicly. How many on the Democrat side were willing to say this? Of course, he then did absolutely nothing with this knowledge, but still.
No, Trump Derangement Syndrome is just another label for critical thinking. Anyone who acknowledges that DJT told a lie, is labeled as having TDS. Anyone who does not believe the reality TV personality is the best we can do for president is labeled as having TDS. Of course, the other aspect is that anyone who does not absolutely worship DJT, must then be a full supporter of the Democratic party and have a Kamala Harris pin-up in their bedroom (shudder).
What a mess we are in. Bill.

Absolutely nobody with an education past 6th grade ever disputed that COVID-19 emerged in China, and the 6th graders were open-minded about it.

That passes for "comparative brilliance"?

Bullshit. They tapdanced around it constantly. People bent over backwards to ignore the fact. I'm not saying they disputed it, they just refused to make it a factor in their decision making. Going further, there was no attempt made, by anyone, to keep covid out. Window dressing, but that's all. No body wanted to offend anyone. All of this is now water under the bridge, mind you.
Back to TDS, anyone who can think critically at all would have to see Donald Trump as a sham. He was one of the worst presidents we have had; Joe Biden is fighting hard for the honor. Bill.

Remember what a racist president Trump was when he banned travel from china? I do.