This analogy explains a lot.

In order to appreciate this, you gotta appreciate such things as satire and irony.

Conservative men just can't abide the thought of a woman sending them shopping.

This guy explains it all:

https://youtu.be/mK5BrV7VzfU?si=KoGMFSivHD9OoRww

This Got Scary (Grocery Trip)

Well, I voted for Hailey and will not vote for Harris.

Your point is insulting.

I cannot vote for Harris due to policy reasons as well as her lack of honesty and her somewhat questionable history.

You are absolutely correct that Trump is horrible as far as personal attributes and I’m not supporting him either, but say however much it’s false equivalence, I don’t buy it. Both are bad choices. Once you see that, you are purely arguing which is worse. I’m not going to tell anyone which is worse, as your personal morality makes that call.

Real conservatives, who have common sense, and family values, would NEVER vote for either of these two stupid idiots!

It has come to picking the lesser of two evils!

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as your personal morality makes that call.

You got that right.

Did I insult you again?

Think about it.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Real conservatives, who have common sense, and family values, would NEVER vote for either of these two stupid idiots!

It has come to picking the lesser of two evils!

Yep. That’s why I voted for neither.

Never pictured you with a bald head ME.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Real conservatives, who have common sense, and family values, would NEVER vote for either of these two stupid idiots!

It has come to picking the lesser of two evils!

Again, it has come to picking the lesser of two evils again.

It puts a man like myself in a tough position, I refuse to defend or explain the antics of either candidate to my daughter. I expect and instruct my daughter to seek out the opposite of trumps and Harris's behavior. I should tell her I want either for President? Not for any reason.

No. Your personal thoughts are if you want to say one or the other is worse and you support the other.

I’ve said before I’m not supporting either of the two.

But you claiming Harris is better, or Lane claiming trump is the lesser evil is up to you and your own beliefs.

I’m not going to say either is totally off base as long as they acknowledge it’s a choice between bad options. Lane at least admits that Trump has significant faults… I’ve yet to hear the lefties admit Harris has any faults or issues.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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as your personal morality makes that call.

You got that right.

Did I insult you again?

Think about it.

I just don't get it. I don't understand how you folks put Trump and Harris, and what they represent, on the same scale.

I mean on a scale of good -- evil. Scott, for one, measures that in behavior.

You won't see Harris simulating a blow job on a microphone. How do you explain that to kids?

And way beyond behavior there's the vision or goals for the country.

I just don't see a parallel, not even close, with project 2025. Same with the broligarchs. The left has wealthy donors too but not comparable with Musk, for example, on the end justifies the means scale.

https://www.opensecrets.org/el...s?cycle=2024&view=fc

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/10-...mcoWOI08wLd0Boh2xRrM

Microsoft founder and ex-CEO Bill Gates has made one major donation this election cycle: a $50 million contribution to Vice President Kamala Harris.

The donation, which was meant to be private, was first reported by the New York Times last month. The money went to Future Forward, the main outside fund-raising group supporting Harris, through its nonprofit arm, Future Forward USA Action, which doesn’t disclose its donors.

Gates, who co-founded the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and has a net worth of $103 billion, told the Times in a statement that he supports candidates “who demonstrate a clear commitment to improving health care, reducing poverty and fighting climate change in the U.S. and around the world.”

https://www.politico.com/news/...-elon-wants-00186881

What Elon Musk wants from Washington
Trump’s most powerful backer has $260 billion, wildly unpredictable politics and clear designs on Washington. Here’s what the capital could be in for.

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Basically, Musk has some good ideas, but overall he wants to turn the Govt into a money making machine for himself and other Bros, like none other. The path to do that is make Govt totally dependent on his technology as the exclusive source.

Was there ever good politician?
Comes down to choice and there are two

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Was there ever good politician?
Comes down to choice and there are two

I favor politicians without a history of trying to steal elections. YMMV.

Each candidate has explained in some detail why the opposing candidate is a bad choice. Believe them both, it's the truth.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Was there ever good politician?
Comes down to choice and there are two

I favor politicians without a history of trying to steal elections. YMMV.

What? You don’t favour rapey treasonous pathological liars and grifting convicted felons for your Commander in Chief and head of state?
I’d say your membership in this fraternity is seriously at risk, sir.

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Originally posted by TomP:
Each candidate has explained in some detail why the opposing candidate is a bad choice. Believe them both, it's the truth.

Trump explained??

And you believed him??

He mostly accused, and in doing so explained himself.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by TomP:
Each candidate has explained in some detail why the opposing candidate is a bad choice. Believe them both, it's the truth.

Trump explained??

And you believed him??

He mostly accused, and in doing so explained himself.

Trump's explanations leave something to be desired, no kidding. An unstable dotard.

Harris seems at best a regional politician, but has a history of taking advice, a cause for a little optimism.

Somehow Harris reminds me, capability wise, Of Palin.

No intelligent capitalist would vote for Harris.

Are you saying that people like Bill gates and Warren Buffett are not "intelligent capitalists"? Are you claiming that Your "nut has achieved more than them"?

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Originally posted by ledvm:
No intelligent capitalist would vote for Harris.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Somehow Harris reminds me, capability wise, Of Palin.

Well, that's revealing.

Good grief man. I haven't seen such an underestimation and an overestimation, respectively, in the same sentence before as I recall.

Nor have I seen a false equivalence quite so gross recently.

Wow, you are getting bonus points for a twofer.

I have always figured McCain would have been a great POTUS, but somehow he made a yuge mistake selecting Palin as VP mate. That was bad. I don't know if he followed advice or made the decision himself, but either way he should have known better.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Somehow Harris reminds me, capability wise, Of Palin.

Well, that's revealing.

Good grief man. I haven't seen such an underestimation and an overestimation, respectively, in the same sentence before as I recall.

Nor have I seen a false equivalence quite so gross recently.

Wow, you are getting bonus points for a twofer.

Not trolling maybe. But definitely a line in the water looking for a bite.

You left that ambiguous. I take it you think Palin more capable?

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I take it you think Palin more capable?

Oh, that's almost painful.

I used the word "respectively" to indicate the same order, of the subject, as you presented is followed in my response. It makes for shorter paragraphs.

But it didn't work.

Anyway, I edited my post which should clarify.

Yeah, just trying to introduce a bit of light hearted banter at this stage.

The die is cast and no amount of foot stomping or whooping is going to make a difference now.

I have always thought that your nation would have been in a different position now, if McCain had of been elected.

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Yeah, just trying to introduce a bit of light hearted banter at this stage.

Me too.

Thanks for playing along.

We can only wish for the best, which IMO a McCain type of republican would be a blessing.

How were we to know that Romney and Bush were the archetypes to measure by?

Trump taught us a lot.

In the words of Joni Mitchell. "You dont know what you've got till its gone."

I like that quote.

In the current situation we know what we've got and wish it was gone.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...f27ca1b38b7a4&ei=117

Steve Bannon Vows to 'Secure' Election For Trump as Allies Gather in DC

Shanks, this one is for you:

https://youtube.com/shorts/ofW...?si=zjQCUPYTbWSLKpOy

Kamala and Palin Together at LAST

Ohhh.

I take it all back.

By the way, one of the funniest memories Ill have from my time in the states, was 3 consecutive roadside adverts, Like only America does.

first was for marijuana.

Second was for a strip club.

and the third was for a lawyer.

Jeez I cracked up.

Also- have you ever noticed how supervillians are always trying to change things. While super heroes are trying to keep things the same?

Yea, things are topsy-turvy these days.

Can you imagine the raw talent of this guy?

https://youtube.com/shorts/7OB...?si=bIfOc_nXy9BWgzdA

Here's a good one:

https://youtube.com/shorts/5Ay...?si=9OHW2K30LavzOWdw

Tim Walz utterly HUMILIATES Elon Musk

Yeah but I bet Elon can load a shotgun..

I think politics has a tendency to show up th4e fool in all of us.

And you just know it. But this momma is a good momma... and she's conservative AF!

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3404688969828098

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Real conservatives, who have common sense, and family values, would NEVER vote for either of these two stupid idiots!

It has come to picking the lesser of two evils!

Almost always the case in elections in the USA.

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Real conservatives, who have common sense, and family values, would NEVER vote for either of these two stupid idiots!

It has come to picking the lesser of two evils!

Yep. That’s why I voted for neither.

I did as well, but living in hard blue Oregon it has no impact other than expressing my displeasure in the two primary candidates.