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Do you want to see some flyover country and what a liberal would do with it, given a choice? The chasm between a real liberal and a real Trumpster is this vast, represented in the following: https://wapo.st/447RRkW Interior secretary gives DOGE aide sweeping powers to remake department Decisions by Tyler Hassen, a former oil executive, could have big implications for the department responsible for national parks and endangered species. Updated April 21, 2025 https://youtu.be/AdGvMprPAB8?si=MynAWXPb8b093zW0 Inside one of the world's most ambitious conservation projects ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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That attitude is what got Trump elected twice. If the Dems do not understand the need to win the electoral college, they will continue to lose. You seem to like that idea. Pivot to the center or keep losing...seems like an easy choice to me. | |||
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I'm speaking for me mostly. My attitude. The Dems can sort it out as they wish and deem fit. I'm a never Trumper. I just doubt that any sane or reasonable liberal could waste his time trying to un-radicalize Trumpsters. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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I have not suggested supporting Trump. I have suggested a moderate candidate that can actually win. | |||
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Okay. That's a good summary on your part. But you haven't acknowledged the fact that a moderate candidate is NOT what won in 2024. The radical appealed to Christians and those in fly-over states, far-right radicals of all sorts, militias, etc. What makes you think a moderate is what they want? Are you projecting your own attitude on radicals, thinking they are reasoning people just needing to be shown the light? ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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As long as both parties cater to their fringe bases, things are going to get worse. We will continue to alternate between extremes in our politics and the level of discourse will continue to become more ugly. I could have been convinced to vote democrat this election by having a moderate candidate. Admittedly that my vote essentially went to the democrat by way of the electoral college but there are probably folks in many states that voted Trump because they couldn’t stomach voting for Harris, and probably more yet who stayed home because they didn’t like either option. At this point, I think Steve is right in that the GOP won, so they see no reason to change; the democrats lost yet they seem to be doubling down on what lost. I think it’s possible the Dems can win in 3 years without change… but it will not help the country or be long term. I’d expect a relatively close election if they can’t come up with someone with more broad appeal. I don’t think that it will matter if it’s a man or a woman, nor do I think race is critical. I think it’s political positions compared to the average voter. Maybe MAGA sold some hype in this last election… but the democrats didn’t show anything to prove the hype was wrong. And the lefty hype about Trump so far is mostly not resonating either. Frankly, I’m glad that the left position isn’t gaining ground, as we need to return to the middle in this country. Until both sides lose because of radical candidates that will not get the parties to shift. David Hogg? Really??? | |||
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I happily wrote in Joe Manchin. The dems would have never given him a chance, but I think he would have had broad appeal. But as doc said, only the fringe seem to get put forward. Biden was suppose to be the middle ground man. Who ever was telling him what to do, drove him far left. Harris saying she wouldnt change anything he had done, spelled the end. | |||
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Well, maybe I'm bias. ![]() I have never seen what the Right sees about the left and their societal, cultural, and governance visions. What I see is a lot of cooked up, half-baked crap, lies and just farce from the Right about the left. I think of it as pseudo or quasi socialism and Rightist alt-reality fear and loathing. OTOH, the Right is clear to me in authoritarian leanings and trajectory. So, the choice for conservatives in 2024 was cooked-up pseudo/quasi socialism fear vs authoritarianism for real. The authoritarian won, as a remedy to the leftist boogie nightmare they were fed and dreamt up. How can people so easily manipulated be swayed towards a "moderate", especially a moderate liberal, and especially when the Rightist propaganda machine is so effective? ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ne...l&utm_campaign=share The Project 2025 Presidency The blueprint for Trump 2.0 predicted much of what we’ve seen so far—and much of what’s to come. By David A. Graham After Donald Trump won in November, I sat down to read all 922 pages of Project 2025. As I write in my new book, what I discovered was more radical and more interesting than I’d expected. It predicted much of what we’ve seen in the first three months of the second Trump administration—and much of what’s to come, including the dismantling of federal climate research that’s started to take shape in recent weeks. The Blueprint Paul Dans was a true believer in Donald Trump from the start, and by 2020, he had finally clawed his way to a job as a White House staffer. When Trump left office, Dans returned to private life but remained ready if the MAGA movement needed him—like the Roman statesman Cincinnatus, he said. The call came in the spring of 2022, when Kevin D. Roberts, the president of the conservative Heritage Foundation, summoned him to Washington and asked him to convene policy thinkers from across the full sweep of the American right to write an aspirational agenda for the next Republican president. The contributors Dans gathered believed that the Christian, right-wing nation they desired could come about only if Republicans stopped doing politics the way they always had and refused to accept the structure of the executive branch as it existed. They also understood that the faster a new president moved, the more he’d be able to achieve as the courts, Congress, and civil society struggled to keep up. The blueprint they produced for achieving that was Project 2025. The agenda was endlessly dissected by the press and Democrats during the election, leading Trump to angrily distance himself from it. Heritage forced Dans out in July 2024 as a sacrificial gesture. Yet these ideas have been key to the head-spinning first three months of the Trump administration, and they offer the best indications of where Trump’s attention will land next. The most important tactic laid out in the plan was to transform the federal bureaucracy by firing as many civil servants as possible, changing others into political appointees, and terrifying the rest into obeisance. We are already seeing the impact: Trump has bought out, driven off, or fired tens of thousands of federal employees, and although courts have ordered some of them reinstated, he has transformed—perhaps permanently—the federal bureaucracy. The attack on the civil service was one of the best-known planks of the plan, but many of the most shocking moments of the Trump presidency so far have actually come from less prominent ideas buried across Project 2025’s 922 pages. It foretold the sacking of top generals (see, for example, C. Q. Brown, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff), branding these officials as “Barack Obama’s general officer corps” (page 88), and it said military officers had “been advanced by prior Administrations for reasons other than their warfighting prowess” (page 104). The repeal of Temporary Protected Status for people from Venezuela, and the targeting of academia by slashing student visas? Those are in there, too (pages 145 and 141). An obsessive focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion programs appears throughout Project 2025; that has become a recurring theme of the Trump presidency, leading to the removal of certain webpages about Black winners of combat medals and the purging of references to the Enola Gay, the atomic bomber whose name suddenly made it vulnerable to keyword-search deletion. Trump’s attempts to fire agency officials, in defiance of the law, reflect a conviction by Project 2025’s architects that any restrictions on the president’s hiring and firing powers inside the executive branch are unconstitutional, a position they hope to persuade the Supreme Court to bless (page 560). Even the muddled approach to tariffs of Trump’s three months in office—now on, now off, now postponed—mirrors cleavages in the Republican Party that appear in Project 2025. Although Trump is a lifelong fan of protectionism, trade is one of the few areas where conservative wonks have not entirely surrendered to his view. Instead of taking a solid position, as Project 2025’s authors did on most topics, they instead offered a point and counterpoint between the Trump adviser Peter Navarro, who favors aggressive tariffs on China, and a pro-free-trade voice. As for what comes next, the text suggests two major things to watch. One is an end to any policies that acknowledge climate change, and to any federal climate research. Already, the Defense Department has canceled climate work, NASA has fired its chief scientist, NOAA has laid off hundreds of workers, and the EPA has plans to fire hundreds more, but even these steep cuts are likely only the start. Earlier this month, Politico reported on an Office of Management and Budget memo proposing an evisceration of NOAA that closely mirrors Project 2025’s proposals. Unlike some on the right, Project 2025 doesn’t treat climate change as a hoax, but it does view these programs as an impediment to the unfettered exploitation of fossil fuels, especially on federal land, that they want. The second is a more organized campaign to promote conservative gender norms, traditional families, and Christian morality. Trump has already moved to limit transgender rights, but the Project 2025 agenda is much wider, aiming to return the United States to a country of married families with male breadwinners and female caregivers. The authors also want to ban abortion nationally, though Trump has shown little enthusiasm for the idea. Though he’s content to let states strictly limit abortion, he’s attuned to how unpopular overturning Roe v. Wade was outside of his base. Even if Trump won’t act, the authors of Project 2025 have ideas for how to chip away at abortion access. They want to revoke federal approval for abortion drugs and criminalize mailing them, and they envision wide-ranging federal surveillance of abortion at the state level. To bolster traditional families, they want to pay caregivers to remain at home, nudge single fathers toward marriage, and restructure welfare programs to reward married couples. Taken together, these moves will try to replicate an idealized vision of pre–Roe v. Wade America. “We had hoped, those of us who worked putting together Project 2025, that the next conservative president would seize the day, but Trump is seizing every minute of every hour,” Dans told Politico last month. Though Dans has not joined the administration, many of the people involved in Project 2025 have landed top jobs, including Russ Vought, head of OMB; CIA Director John Ratcliffe; and Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr. If Dans’s ouster from Heritage last summer seemed like a defeat, it was only a temporary one. When Politico asked him to assess the administration’s progress in enacting Project 2025’s agenda, he was euphoric. “It’s actually way beyond my wildest dreams,” he said. Thinking about Project 2025 as simply a laundry list of management tweaks and policy proposals is a mistake. The authors set out to turbocharge the Trump administration and reshape the executive branch, but their ambitions are much bigger. Their goal is to transform American society in their image. So far, everything is going according to plan. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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So the left's open borders belief is just hype? Anyone, should be able to walk in, anytime? | |||
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And don’t forget, once they are in, you can’t just kick them out, they have due process…quite ridiculous and now whole world knows once you get in you’re in …thanks Dems and their courts Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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Those courts are what separate us from authoritarian regimes. Don't like it? I bet Putin has a spot for you. | |||
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Those Dems led courts will be our doom Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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Yea, and the men in women's rest rooms and competition was hype too. They were moles hired just like those stirring shit on J6. And there was no such thing as DEI or WOKE, all hype. And Putin doesn't have Kompromat on Dear Leader. That's hype. Trump really loves Putin. The elections really are rigged. Biden didn't have dementia. He was drugged, or perhaps his drugs wore off. God didn't really intervene on behalf of the country regarding Trump. Christians just made that up. Beavis and Butt-Head are secret Trump advisors. Etc. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Those courts are what keep us free. You have a presumption of innocence and right to due process in America, just the way it should be. Maybe Belarus would suite your politics better than America. | |||
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Are you saying that Biden had a good border policy? He did not, it was a mess and one that he could have solved but failed to do so until it was too late. Biden's policy on the border was extremely unpopular. Better to admit mistakes and make changes accordingly than to insist that you are right when you obviously in the wrong. | |||
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No, I'm not saying that. He had a policy. He tried to get coherent and bipartisan legislature policy. He failed because Trump wanted to make it a campaign ploy, std lay blame. GOPer legislature failed, intentionally, and that's a fact. Whatever policy Biden was stuck with was within the law, humaine, families together stayed together and such, etc. He didn't lie, scape goat, dehumanize, villainize the vulnerable. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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That is just it, Biden was not stuck on border policy, he waited 3&1/2 years to change his policy to one that worked. He had the the ability to address the issue from the beginning, yet failed to do so, and Fox News was there every night to show the nation his failures. A self induced injury that could have and should have been avoided. | |||
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I did not say biden. I said the left. The far left has repeatedly said, they want open borders. Look it up, plenty of videos of it, in their own words. It's people who elect the politicians. You are claiming what the libs say is hype, when there is proof it is not. | |||
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Our borders with Canada and Mexico seemed that way up until Bush II, we crossed the borders with no more than a drivers license to shop or just ride around. I liked that better, so did border residents, near as I can tell. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Trump was nominated in 2024 because most opponents were afraid to point out his failings and risk the vitriol which would certainly come their way from the Trumpeteers. Only Chris Christie was willing to tell the truth about Trump, and everyone saw what happened to him. The rest carefully avoided criticizing Trump. So, on the republican side, good candidates were afraid to come forward. The Democrats may have some good candidates, but they refuse to acknowledge them. They run unelectable candidates out of sheer stubbornness. If Kamala had won, human and drug traffic across the border would have doubled. The economy would have been less uncertain but trended downward. Like Trump, she would have run up the debt. She would not have been able to fill a cabinet with qualified people because she would be selecting from a pool of Democrats. 2024 offered no choice to the American people, and it doesn't look a lot better for 2028. One thing Kamala would not have done, she would not have had any influence at all on the Canadian election. Trump is giving the Liberal party a chance. If the Liberals do win the election, Western Canada may finally revolt. This situation is almost entirely the fault of Donald Trump; aided by the stupidity of Liberal supporters. Regards, Bill. | |||
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You are probably correct, in the sum of things. I suppose he could have corrected by exec order. I really don't remember how he finally changed his policy. The thing about Fox is if it's not one thing then another. That's their partizan mission. Why do you think so many from Fox were anointed by Trump? In Biden's favor, at least he didn't have a Wormtongue Miller advising how to be cruel and thwart the law. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Biden did finally secure the border with an EO, it only took him 3&1/2 years to do it. Poor policy is poor policy, it does not matter one bit if it comes from the right or from the left. | |||
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9/11 took care of the open travel Tom. Plenty of workers both sides the northern border here. They have a pass card they display, and go right back and forth to work. Not a big deal without one, just declare your purpose, they check if you have a restriction, and you are through. You cant go to Canada if you have had a DUI, until so many years have passed, and you bring a police statement and so on. Yet the left thinks anyone should be able to swim across the river and sneak into the US. | |||
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a DUI in usa with no pardon from the canadian side might barre you to enter the country .. even after 20 years ... the same is done from canadians going into usa but today there are really less canadians even without DUI tempted to try the crossing ... | |||
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Geezus medved, you are a boring, broken record. with the tariffs now, there must be someone out of work that can write you some new material. | |||
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sorry to unappeal you but there is less crossing between canada to usa from canadians nothing to do with the christ or DUI lol that is not me mentionning the tarrifs but you are right your dear supreme leader is doing good ... https://vancouver.citynews.ca/...border-travel-trump/ But there has been a big drop in foreigners travelling to the U.S. since Trump took office, and Canadians are no exception. There were more than 910,000 fewer land border crossings from Canada into the U.S. last month than in March of 2024 — a more than 22 per cent drop — according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data. An Air Canada spokesman, meanwhile, said Canada-U.S. flight bookings for April through September are down about 10 per cent. you make your bed my dear ... | |||
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https://youtube.com/shorts/K1S...?si=HoNX6GyoGi7Yf7a0 Hannity- “you think we’re (Fox) bad for America?” https://youtube.com/shorts/1Go...?si=W5ok9XglQKKVvNHr Pete Hegseth is cooked. But he’s only the symptom of a much bigger problem. ============================================= And you're sure that a moderate candidate is a solution. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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For a never trumper, you sure seem to be wedded to whacko lefty ideas that gave the election to Trump. You can’t say DEI is nothing. Too many of my coworker’s kids didn’t get into universities of their choice while minority classmates with lower grades and standardized tests did… you might not see it, it may be a relative few, but it’s there. You can keep saying that FOX is making crap up… nope, it’s there. Perhaps it’s exaggerated for effect. We just had a state official key some teslas and the metro county DA refused to prosecute it on the goofy grounds that a felony conviction would damage him and wouldn’t help reduce violence… If you truly want anyone other than Trump, find someone who can win. I’ve fought the fight here in MN trying to find a sane GOP candidate. Part of why I lost was that the MAGA types pointed out that the left is showing no sign of real compromise and they were able to sell you have to fight fire with fire… If you support polar opposites and force folks to choose between two evils, don’t get surprised when evils win. You might think Trump is irredeemably worse than Harris and you claim I’m Mr. False Equivalence… but the majority of voters seem to be closer to my point of view than yours… Steve apparently woke up to it. I can’t defend Trump’s tax policy or foreign policy, even if I can see why it has some curb appeal to segments of the public. You can’t even seem to comprehend why the democrats are not winning by miles.
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I'm not denying that medved. It's just that is your same, go to line, over and over and over. There is plenty to bitch about trump for, without going to the same well every post. | |||
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i did not even mentionned tarrifs are you so blind ... | |||
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Oh, I think I comprehend why Dems didn't win. Why should the Dems let themselves be sucked into fighting fire with fire? It's a no-win situation to try to match radicalization with greater portions. Why compromise with authoritarianism? IMO, the Right broke through the fire breaks and are trying to burn the house down. They want to destroy the left. For the Left to try to find middle ground anymore would be like trying to appease an arsonist. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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You stupid fuck, canadians not comming over the border in the same numbers. your tag line of sorts. I live on the border. I have canadian blood from my maternal and paternal sides. I have relatives just across the border in canada that come down all the time. As a farmer, logger, syrup maker, I do business across the border. do you think I dont know what is going on? The canadians and I laugh and poke fun at our governments all the time. I'm trying to get through, you could hve something besides " border crossings are down by canadians" to say that may be interesting. But that seems to be your favorite thing, and it's boring after umpteen times. | |||
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Yet another example. Trump did and continues to lie. No argument there. People died? Where? This is part of the problem. Hypocritical of you to make that claim. Most don’t consider a cop dying of a heart attack or stroke to be being killed by someone else. That’s like a MAGA guy claiming Biden’s lies caused people to die. You can seem make a stretch of logic show some sort of relationship, but it’s a stretch.
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People are dying in Ukraine because of Trump's lies too. I haven't made the claim before, but I will now - IMO it is also people like you who whitewash who are partially to blame for Trump getting his little bone spur feet in the WH again. Tell me - is it not true that metaphorically MAGA and Trump and the sponsors of project 2025 are trying to burn the house down? Would you compromise with an arsonist? ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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He's Canadian, what do you expect? His priorities, the issues that trouble him the most, are bound to be different from yours. If I was Canadian, I'd be rooting for tourist boycotts on the US too. | |||
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"Trump did and continues to lie. No argument there. People died? Where?" How about covid was just a hoax out to get him? Lots of people died before he got off his ass. | |||
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we all joke about gvts for sure but when a country president wants to take over a sovereign state and it is repeated ad nauseum you and the supporters of the supreme leader are the only one finding funny or even a great idea ... im pretty sure your friends or your family love it but i can tell you that none of the people around me are waiting to get your passport ... you did not read the link i posted otherwise you will have found out that the lower numbers came from your own country border patrol ... | |||
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