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President Trump loses on tariffs at Fed. Cir. Ct.
30 August 2025, 05:02
LHeym500President Trump loses on tariffs at Fed. Cir. Ct.
https://apple.news/ASf5C1pD8QwWUGZbFKTI1Kg2 courts down and 1 to go.
30 August 2025, 10:04
SaeedLock the MAGA FUCKWIT up!
He has broken a CONSTITUTIONAL LAW!
30 August 2025, 21:31
M.ShyHe’ll win on this one
Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
30 August 2025, 21:40
SaeedA loser.
Just like his cheerleaders!
30 August 2025, 21:44
LHeym500quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
He’ll win on this one
Only if the S. Ct., creates a new rule.
He should not, but you are not really a conservative. You would not give a Dem this power that is denied to the President by the Constitution.
The only way he wins is the Court ruled the question is non-justiciable question.
Maybe, through standing he might convince 5.
30 August 2025, 21:51
jeffeossothere's always the sticky details
quote:
However, the court delayed the impact of its decision through mid-October to allow the Trump administration to appeal to the Supreme Court, as the tariffs remain in effect.
The statute is SILENT on the word tariff, but grants sweeping economic powers to potus -
I am perfectly fine with following dye prices to the end, ...
and in no way shame or form would I ever recommend "pick up a rifle" as some officers of the courts have
30 August 2025, 22:22
Steve BertramWhat was the emergency used to justify tariffs? A trade deficit I believe. How do you then rationalize the tariffs applied to those that have a trade surplus with us such as the UK, UAE, Brazil, Australia and others? You can't.
I will submit that there never was an emergency.
30 August 2025, 22:44
jeffeossoSteve,
I think the basics, that there's no "emergency " i agree.
That is the only way/arguement I can imagine that can stop this. Arguing the niceties post-declaration , is the losing side. Stop it at its source, not the frills.
The tariffs are stupid. This arguement is likely to lose, though, as they are treating symptoms not the root (cause) of the power.
30 August 2025, 22:45
jdollarTrump is quite used to losing in court. He’s spent tens of millions on lawyers in the past few decades doing exactly that. Nothing new here except now it’s tax payer money he’s pissing away. So much winning!!
Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend…
To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP
30 August 2025, 23:05
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
Trump is quite used to losing in court. He’s spent tens of millions on lawyers in the past few decades doing exactly that. Nothing new here except now it’s tax payer money he’s pissing away. So much winning!!
Hey, trump voter, note that my post above is an example of NOT trump support. Not that it will register
31 August 2025, 01:46
theback40I just noticed the tariffs last week.
Putting on a steel roof. The screws that usually come out of Canada, almost doubled in price from a week ago.
The lumber yard just sourced them from elsewhere for a normal price.
I felt bad for Canada, loosing a sale. They are my neighbor and I support them. Unfortunately, my thrifty yankee blood means I went with the cheaper option.
31 August 2025, 01:49
LHeym500quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Steve,
I think the basics, that there's no "emergency " i agree.
That is the only way/arguement I can imagine that can stop this. Arguing the niceties post-declaration , is the losing side. Stop it at its source, not the frills.
The tariffs are stupid. This arguement is likely to lose, though, as they are treating symptoms not the root (cause) of the power.
Emergency or not, the Fed Law did not give him the power to unilaterally impose tariffs.
Congress cannot delegate through mere legislation its Article II power to any president either.
A president does not have the constitutional power to impose tariffs; even by treaty, the Stnate would have to ratify it.
31 August 2025, 04:35
M.ShyOk then, how come high tariffs are good for everyone else in the world?
Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
31 August 2025, 04:38
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
Ok then, how come high tariffs are good for everyone else in the world?
Milan, we aren't allowed to ask rational questions
31 August 2025, 05:44
M.ShyI admit I like Trump despite his shortcomings but then all his predecessors had as many and maybe more than him. After all it’s human nature
His way of rattling opposition is rather good way of showing their colors
He is definitely a lot smarter than people giving him credit
Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
31 August 2025, 06:08
Mike Mitchellquote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
He’ll win on this one
He might given the current make-up of the SCOTUS.
But, legally, based on precedent at least, it's not even close that he loses. His emergency argument is bullshit.
31 August 2025, 06:09
JTEXquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
Ok then, how come high tariffs are good for everyone else in the world?
Milan, we aren't allowed to ask rational questions
It is odd isn't it????
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31 August 2025, 06:11
JTEXquote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
He’ll win on this one
Only if the S. Ct., creates a new rule.
He should not, but you are not really a conservative. You would not give a Dem this power that is denied to the President by the Constitution.
The only way he wins is the Court ruled the question is non-justiciable question.
Maybe, through standing he might convince 5.
Kinda,like the Supreme court did for Obama care????
31 August 2025, 06:23
TomPquote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
Ok then, how come high tariffs are good for everyone else in the world?
Are they? How excellent are those economies?
TomP
Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.
Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)
31 August 2025, 06:33
MJinesquote:
Originally posted by TomP:
quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
Ok then, how come high tariffs are good for everyone else in the world?
Are they? How excellent are those economies?
Don’t waste your time. The question has been answered for Milan at least three times. Not sure if he is pretending to be obtuse or is in fact obtuse. Some countries have VAT too. Maybe we should too . . . after all if they like it maybe we would as well.
Mike