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The former neighbor of Samuel Alito and his wife, Martha-Ann, told CNN in her first television interview Wednesday that the Supreme Court justice’s account of the dispute between his spouse and Baden didn’t add up, and that he was “at best mistaken, but at worst he’s just outright lying.”

On OutFront, Emily Baden said that a verbal exchange with Martha-Ann—which Alito claimed was the reason for his wife flying the upside-down American flag—occurred in mid-February. A photograph of the flag was taken January 17.

Baden’s interview comes after The Washington Post, which spoke with her, reported in a story published Wednesday that a Fairfax County, Virginia government spokesman confirmed that a call to police was made on February 15—undercutting Alito’s version of events.

CNN anchor Erin Burnett noted this point before asking Baden to respond to Alito’s questionable excuse.

“She didn‘t put the flag up for that reason. Absolutely, 100 percent,” said Baden, whose initial anti-Trump sign and subsequent sign drew the ire of Alito’s wife. “And that‘s what I want to really drive home to people, is that this happened on February 15, and we know that because they had been harassing us so long that we were like, ‘We need a paper trail of this, like we‘d better call the cops right now.’”

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Either his wife started flying the flag in mid-January because of an incident that happened in mid-February, confirmed by the call to police, or he flat lied.

There is important context not mentioned in that, or most other, articles about this. The flag was flying during President Biden's Inauguration. An Inauguration Justice Alito did not attend. At the time the Court's Public Information Officer said that Alito, Thomas and the Court's oldest Justice, 82-year-old Breyer, did not attend due to the risk of COVID.

Duh, I wonder how he's going to vote on the inevitable Trump appeals, which the Court wouldn't even look at if the appellant was you or me.

Congress has no control over the supreme court.

Nor does the supreme court has any control over congress.

It is called separation of powers for a reason.

Yes, Congress does.

They can impeach.

Congress should impeach Alito over misleading them when asked if stare decisis applied to Plan Parenthood V Casey.

They could impeach him for lying now

Yes, the S.Cr., has some stroke over Congress. They use it everytime they invalidate an act of Congress.

It is called checks and balances.

There is a legal theory out there that Congress has the power to remove fed judges by consolidating fed districts and circuits. Thus, eliminating some judge positions.

There is no one branch of government more powerful. The old maximum was Co-equal branches of government.

We perceive the S. Ct., as most powerful because short of war, the S.Ct., gets the last say.

Alexander Hamilton wrote the Fed courts would be the least dangerous branch of the federal, General Government. That was because the Fed Courts would be disavowed of politics.

Justice Alito has violated this major tenant of our system.

I would vote for his impeachment for his misleading Congress. Specifically, the Senate. It is only in those confirmation hearings through the questioning or our elected representatives that we get to interview those who are selected for the last say.

When you mislead, you forfeit the privilege.

When you interject politics, you forfeit the privilege.

Justice Alito is qualified to set in the bench. He is not fit.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Congress has no control over the supreme court.

Nor does the supreme court has any control over congress.

It is called separation of powers for a reason.

Anybody that thinks that the SCOTUS doesn't exercise control over congress doesn't understand the concept of judicial review.

And, Alito is a disgrace. Anybody that flies the flag of our country upside down to make a political statement is a POS. The fact that a Justice of the SCOTUS would do it (and then tell a clumsy lie about it) almost defies belief.

Thanks, Republicans.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Congress has no control over the supreme court.

Nor does the supreme court has any control over congress.

It is called separation of powers for a reason.

Who do you think determines the size of the Court? The Constitution doesn't specify how many Justices there are, Congress does.

Assuming that what the justice said is a lie take TDS to new levels.

So, Justices lying about flying the symbols of insurrection and election interference while he sets to hear a case that may extend presidential immunity is okay.

Got it, Judge.

No, I never said anything at all like that. I thought you, of all folks, would understand, there is nothing in the explanation letter or the “aggrieved” neighbors statements conclusively prove a lie by Alito. In fact, the woman’s explanation says he may be mistaken. Maybe she is. Or… perhaps they are speaking of two different instances… One in January and one in February.
Yet, with TDS, any belief that a person who doesn’t toe the anti-Trump religious mantra is in league with the devil seems to be sufficient here to have to conclude that Alito lied. Half the people in the United States are tired of TDS. I wonder if there’s a chance for recovery for the sufferers.

You do not seem to care a setting justice has lied in your response.

Your statement clearly assumes he has lied.

However, like all things Trump related, it is not the Justice fault. It is the fault of TDS.

I note you not address what remedial action should be taken assuming the Justice lied.

Your prompt assumes he lied. Then places blame on TDS.

In fact, he is either being negligent in his explanation or lying per the lady.

So assuming the Justice lied, as your response did, it is TDS fault.

Got it.

Been in the State beverage of Kentucky? What a bizarre conclusion by you. If anyone wondered about your TDS, they don’t have to any more.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
You do not seem to care a setting justice has lied in your response.

Your statement clearly assumes he has lied.

However, like all things Trump related, it is not the Justice fault. It is the fault of TDS.

I note you not address what remedial action should be taken assuming the Justice lied.

Your prompt assumes he lied. Then places blame on TDS.

In fact, he is either being negligent in his explanation or lying per the lady.

So assuming the Justice lied, as your response did, it is TDS fault.

Got it.

I’m getting too tempted to get personal. I’ll just take a forum vacation for a while. Good luck feeling better tomorrow.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Been in the State beverage of Kentucky? What a bizarre conclusion by you. If anyone wondered about your TDS, they don’t have to any more.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
You do not seem to care a setting justice has lied in your response.

Your statement clearly assumes he has lied.

However, like all things Trump related, it is not the Justice fault. It is the fault of TDS.

I note you not address what remedial action should be taken assuming the Justice lied.

Your prompt assumes he lied. Then places blame on TDS.

In fact, he is either being negligent in his explanation or lying per the lady.

So assuming the Justice lied, as your response did, it is TDS fault.

Got it.

Nope, just look at your own responses.

I didn't know TDS (Trump Devotion Syndrome) extended to cover a justice not even appointed by Trump.

Let is look at this with clear glasses.

Assuming, the Justice mislead Congress should he be impeached, or since he refuses to recuse should Congress look at a reduction in the Court’s budget? How about, assuming he mislead Congress, should the Court be expanded to counterbalance the influence of the misleading Justice?

I go to bed every night knowing Justice Alito misled the Senate concerning stare decisis applying to PP v Casey. I know he would not have been confirmed if he had responded to that question with the dictia he wrote.

I would not hesitate to vote for his impeachment.

I knew he lied when he said it to Congress. When I was in law school in 1978-1981, every student and professor had an opinion on whether Roe v. Wade was rightly decided.

I simply cannot believe Alito didn't have an opinion on the abortion line of caselaw during his Senate confirmation. Or that he didn't intend to see them overturned when he was confirmed.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Let is look at this with clear glasses.
OK, lets.

Assuming, the Justice mislead Congress should he be impeached, Mislead congress about the flag issue?

Or about whether or not he had personal opinions as to Row v. Wade?

Firstly, how many elected officials do something differently after making a campaign promise? Is that lying?

That is probably not a road any politician wants to go down.

But say for purposes of discussion he did lie, then yes you could impeach, but how about your level of proof he lied?

or since he refuses to recuse should Congress look at a reduction in the Court’s budget? That is probably the best option to express displeasure, but fraught with a risk of retaliation. How about, assuming he mislead Congress, should the Court be expanded to counterbalance the influence of the misleading Justice?
I guess that would be a full employment for lawyers act because eventually they would have to expand the court every time a decision was made that annoyed the majority party in congress.


I go to bed every night knowing Justice Alito misled the Senate concerning stare decisis applying to PP v Casey. Know or assume?
I know he would not have been confirmed if he had responded to that question with the dictia he wrote. That may well be the case.

I would not hesitate to vote for his impeachment.

Not having heard the evidence produced by both sides? Shame on you. You are using an inference from items in the public sphere, and not even having a chance to hear the arguments on both sides you are convinced of your rectitude?

I am not JudgeG, but it seemed pretty obvious it was a very biased witness who did not really state who put the flag up, and was willing to say that she thought he might be mistaken...

A kid who moved back in with her mother towing her boyfriend along being interviewed by a leftist op ed site and you call that more definitive evidence to the word of a SCOTUS justice?

Seems to me that your political leanings are overriding your logic here.

Again, I am not a lawyer, but here is yet another example... reasoned individuals using the law are able to come up with different opinions yet you are convinced that your way is the only way, and anyone not seeing it your way on something you consider important is beneath the pale...

For my part, I think that Alito should recuse because in my mind he is beholden to Trump for his spot on the court... but given that in my memory Kagan didn't recuse on the obamacare vote after being involved in drafting the legislation and defending it in the administration says to me that its all up to the justice to recuse only if they feel they want to. (and by the same line of thought shouldn't Sotomayor, Jackson, and Kagan recuse because they were placed on the court by Biden either as POTUS or as VP? Aren't they every bit as politically motivated/contaminated?)

I have posted Justice Alito’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee when he was asked directly if PP v Casey should receive stare decisis.

His stated position to receive confirmation is 100 percent opposite to what he wrote in Dobbs when he addressed why he was not applying stare decisis.

He mislead the Senste. He misled us all. He can go away for his deception.

Likewise, read Judge G original post. He states assuming Justice Alito lied, it is TDS on display,

It is his own position,

Everything is someone else’s fault to the modern right.

It is the justice system,
It was the rigged election rules,
It was the DC police,
It was Pelosi’s fault,
It was a wife’s fault,
It was faulty memory (from someone who has already publicly misled Congress)
It was the Judge,
It was the Biden Administration and DOJ for a state crime and state prosecution,
It is TSS,

No, the fault lies at the feet of the accused.

Alito should be impeached over either case of misleading Congress.

Alito’s testimony under confirmation is under oath. See my response already given as to why he should be impeached over misleading the Senate over Stare Decisis.

The system of confirmation does not work when those who set mislead.

If that was not clear enough for you, I’ll say it in short sentence.

Of Justice Alito has misled Congress as to the timing of the flag raising, he should be impeached.

Justice Alito should be impeached for misleading the Senate w his response to be questioned if stare decisis applies to PP v Casey.

Had he responded with what he wrote versus the opposite position he gave in confirmation, he would not have been confirmed.

Congress should tell the Chief Justice to have him recuse from the immunity case over flying the symbols of Trump’s insurrection. Congress should tell the Chief Justice that it will move to expend the Court if the Chief Justice or Justice Alito tells them to go pond sand.

Same power play should be ran if the Court continues to refuse to enact an ethical code that requires the other members of the Court to enforce against justices. Especially where it concerns accepting this lavish gifts. Gifts every other state and federal judge cannot accept.

Everyone thinks President Roosevelt lost the court packing debate. He won it. Conservative Judges retired in the wake of the court packing debate allowing President Roosevelt to appoint justices. Those justices then engaged through use of the Commerce Clause, and Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to rescue the New Deal, and limit states restriction of certain rights as being federally guaranteed.

Basically, the Supreme Court faced with President Rosevelt’s court packing scheme folded.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I have posted Justice Alito’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee when he was asked directly if PP v Casey should receive stare decisis.

His stated position to receive confirmation is 100 percent opposite to what he wrote in Dobbs when he addressed why he was not applying stare decisis.

He mislead the Senste. He misled us all. He can go away for his deception.

Likewise, read Judge G original post. He states assuming Justice Alito lied, it is TDS on display,

It is his own position,

Everything is someone else’s fault to the modern right.

It is the justice system,
It was the rigged election rules,
It was the DC police,
It was Pelosi’s fault,
It was a wife’s fault,
It was faulty memory (from someone who has already publicly misled Congress)
It was the Judge,
It was the Biden Administration and DOJ for a state crime and state prosecution,
It is TSS,

No, the fault lies at the feet of the accused.

Alito should be impeached over either case of misleading Congress.

Alito’s testimony under confirmation is under oath. See my response already given as to why he should be impeached over misleading the Senate over Stare Decisis.

The system of confirmation does not work when those who set mislead.

At least Thomas is happy. Previously most people thought he was the diriest one.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I have posted Justice Alito’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee when he was asked directly if PP v Casey should receive stare decisis.

His stated position to receive confirmation is 100 percent opposite to what he wrote in Dobbs when he addressed why he was not applying stare decisis.

He mislead the Senste. He misled us all. He can go away for his deception.

Likewise, read Judge G original post. He states assuming Justice Alito lied, it is TDS on display,

It is his own position,

Everything is someone else’s fault to the modern right.

It is the justice system,
It was the rigged election rules,
It was the DC police,
It was Pelosi’s fault,
It was a wife’s fault,
It was faulty memory (from someone who has already publicly misled Congress)
It was the Judge,
It was the Biden Administration and DOJ for a state crime and state prosecution,
It is TSS,

No, the fault lies at the feet of the accused.

Alito should be impeached over either case of misleading Congress.

Alito’s testimony under confirmation is under oath. See my response already given as to why he should be impeached over misleading the Senate over Stare Decisis.

The system of confirmation does not work when those who set mislead.

. . . and all the while lecturing everyone about the today’s lack of personal responsibility and accountability. Not sure there are any bigger hypocrites than the right wing of the GOP these days.

Still the best idea for SCOTUS I've heard:

https://youtu.be/OtkYqrYU-7Q?si=zH4nXu8mFI30DJiK

Would also make buying a Justice Thomas much less valuable.