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If Zelenski is the West's puppet, that must make you Russia's puppet. clap
 
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Too bad they missed… beer


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He has been misfiring from day one!

Too busy begging his masters for hand outs! clap


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I don’t think a successful assassination would help Ukraine.

Letting Putin know both sides can play the game was probably the intent. Putin has tried for various Ukrainian leaders, including Zelensky.

This may just be an attempt to get that behavior to back off.

Just a thought- I have no skin in this game other than I would like to hunt in both Ukraine and Russia someday.
 
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He has been misfiring from day one!

Too busy begging his masters for hand outs! clap


He is one of very few modern day leaders who has lived up to his election promises.

He is one of very few modern day leaders who has a high approval rating amongst his people.

He is also one of very few modern day leaders which Putin has repeatedly tried to assassinate.

Who would ever have thought on 24th Feb 22 that he would still be in power and that Ukraine would still be an independent country over a year later. tu2
 
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Thats very circumstantial. Someone tweets a reply to a photo and is then Quoted in a newspaper.
Just my opinion but Ukraine has staged a number of wide ranging small attacks on russian infrastructure over the last days. Drones into Sevastopol, Attacks in other random areas behind the lines. They are building for an offensive and most likely trying to create some tension and confusion amongst the russians. More likely that drone ws intended to hit infrastucture and to say we can hit moscow.
 
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He has been misfiring from day one!

Too busy begging his masters for hand outs! clap


If he has been misfiring from day one, why is the invasion hopelessly bogged down? Putin thought he would roll over Ukraine in a few weeks at most and a few hundred thousand dead troops later no end is in sight. Putin’s paranoia reaching new lows. clap rotflmo


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He has been misfiring from day one!

Too busy begging his masters for hand outs! clap


He is one of very few modern day leaders who has lived up to his election promises.

He is one of very few modern day leaders who has a high approval rating amongst his people.

He is also one of very few modern day leaders which Putin has repeatedly tried to assassinate.

Who would ever have thought on 24th Feb 22 that he would still be in power and that Ukraine would still be an independent country over a year later. tu2


Here is where you are wrong.

The war was started because he DID NOT full fill the promises to Russia!

A bloody stupid puppet plaid by the West to weaken Russia, and most importantly, fill up the coffers of the war mongers.


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Saeed, with respect, you need to go back to school to study history. Specifically the Budapest Memorandom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994, to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). The three memoranda were originally signed by three nuclear powers: the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States.

The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine

Ukraine and Russia signed up to this agreement whereby Russia guarantees not to use military force against Ukraine and in return Ukraine gives all its nukes to Russia.

Despite signing up to this Russia then started funding, training and arming separatist rebels in east Ukraine and has had its own troops in eastern Ukraine for years supporting the separatists.

Despite signing up to this Russian invaded and took Crimea in 2014.

… and you think it’s Ukraine who has not lived up to its promises… you really haven’t a clue.

Just how much of Ukraine should Russia be allowed to gobble up before it’s people are allowed to resist and seek help from the west?
 
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Again!

A one sided view of what actually happened.

The Eastern part of the Ukraine is supposed to have Russian as their second official language.

The Ukraine would NOT join NATO.


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I think you struggle to understand sovereignty Saeed.

Promises to Russia? About Ukrainian domestic issues?

Russia should concern itself with the mess inside its own borders, not the domestic issues of neighboring countries.

Zelensky and the Ukrainians owe the Russians nothing.

We know that the Saudi's dictates policy to the UAE and you follow along and do as they tell you to do, most countries do not function that way though and prefer to be in control themselves instead of being a vassal state.
 
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I think you struggle to understand sovereignty Saeed.

Promises to Russia? About Ukrainian domestic issues?

Russia should concern itself with the mess inside its own borders, not the domestic issues of neighboring countries.

Zelensky and the Ukrainians owe the Russians nothing.

We know that the Saudi's dictates policy to the UAE and you follow along and do as they tell you to do, most countries do not function that way though and prefer to be in control themselves instead of being a vassal state.


Very true!

Are Americans leaders living in a sovereign country??

BLM

Men competing in women sports!

Anyone with a dick and hairy balls can claim to be a woman??

You can bloody well keep your sovereignty!


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I think you struggle to understand sovereignty Saeed.

Promises to Russia? About Ukrainian domestic issues?

Russia should concern itself with the mess inside its own borders, not the domestic issues of neighboring countries.

Zelensky and the Ukrainians owe the Russians nothing.

We know that the Saudi's dictates policy to the UAE and you follow along and do as they tell you to do, most countries do not function that way though and prefer to be in control themselves instead of being a vassal state.


Very true!

Are Americans leaders living in a sovereign country??

BLM

Men competing in women sports!

Anyone with a dick and hairy balls can claim to be a woman??

You can bloody well keep your sovereignty!


And you can carry on being subservient to that murderer MBS.

I'll take America as opposed to kneeling before that madman.

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I think you struggle to understand sovereignty Saeed.

Promises to Russia? About Ukrainian domestic issues?

Russia should concern itself with the mess inside its own borders, not the domestic issues of neighboring countries.

Zelensky and the Ukrainians owe the Russians nothing.

We know that the Saudi's dictates policy to the UAE and you follow along and do as they tell you to do, most countries do not function that way though and prefer to be in control themselves instead of being a vassal state.


Very true!

Are Americans leaders living in a sovereign country??

BLM

Men competing in women sports!

Anyone with a dick and hairy balls can claim to be a woman??

You can bloody well keep your sovereignty!


And you can carry on being subservient to that murderer MBS.

I'll take America as opposed to kneeling before that madman.

clap


The UAE is not under occupation by anyone!

Unlike you sorry lot!

One half is under a stupid party called the DEMOCRATS!

The other half are under the occupation of the Good Old Party!

Biden or Trump?? jumping


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The UAE is not under occupation by anyone!



The Saudi's are content to control you lesser tribes from the comfort of home, no need to occupy you when you simply submit to them anyway.

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It seems that this is the situation that you are suggesting for Ukraine, the thing is, the Ukrainians have no desire to submit to the Russians.
 
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Again!

A one sided view of what actually happened.

The Eastern part of the Ukraine is supposed to have Russian as their second official language.

The Ukraine would NOT join NATO.


Rubbish! In 1994 Russia signed a treaty to the effect that it would take no military action against Ukraine if Ukraine handed back the nukes which were based on its soil. Why do you think this was negotiated? Ukraine knew that Russia might have designs on its territory and so sought guarantees before handing over its nukes. It could have just hung onto them, the threat of what might happen would have kept Russia civil (Ukraine
at that time controlled the third largest nuke stockpile in the world although Russia had the launch and targeting codes).

Instead Russia promised to respect Ukraine sovereignty and Ukraine handed over its nukes. This is 1994.

This is what Russia agreed to do -
"Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory.
Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind."

Nothing about NATO, nothing about the EU, no conditions on what Ukraine must or must not do within its own boarders or in its relations with other states.

Russia has since violated every one of those conditions, its armed trained and supported separatists in Ukraine, its invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory, its waged economic war on Ukraine ... I know you think Ukraine should put out a red carpet for Putin and just let him take the whole country. Fortunately the west has woken up to its obligations under the treaty it (well the USA and the UK) signed up to and has given the Ukraine the means to defend itself.
 
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I think you struggle to understand sovereignty Saeed.

Promises to Russia? About Ukrainian domestic issues?

Russia should concern itself with the mess inside its own borders, not the domestic issues of neighboring countries.

Zelensky and the Ukrainians owe the Russians nothing.

We know that the Saudi's dictates policy to the UAE and you follow along and do as they tell you to do, most countries do not function that way though and prefer to be in control themselves instead of being a vassal state.


Very true!

Are Americans leaders living in a sovereign country??

BLM

Men competing in women sports!

Anyone with a dick and hairy balls can claim to be a woman??

You can bloody well keep your sovereignty!


And you can carry on being subservient to that murderer MBS.

I'll take America as opposed to kneeling before that madman.

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The UAE is not under occupation by anyone !

Unlike you sorry lot!

One half is under a stupid party called the DEMOCRATS!

The other half are under the occupation of the Good Old Party!

Biden or Trump?? jumping


With the greatest respect Saeed, you evidently don't even know your own history, no wonder you are misinformed on Ukraine. Parts of the UAE have been occupied by Iran for 50 years. Its even on your own embassy's web site - https://www.uae-embassy.org/di...occupied-uae-islands
 
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Don’t confuse Saeed with facts, since he doesn’t read them anyway. If the info isn’t in a Daily Mail headline,it’s of no use to him. Remember when he admitted here that he doesn’t ever read a DM article- only the headline…… animal rotflmo


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We are guests here, and I do not want to be rude to our host. I imagine I'd get on very well with Saeed if we ever met so I'm trying to state my case politely Smiler

Im happy to be rude to anyone else here however... Big Grin
 
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Don’t confuse Saeed with facts, since he doesn’t read them anyway. If the info isn’t in a Daily Mail headline,it’s of no use to him. Remember when he admitted here that he doesn’t ever read a DM article- only the headline…… animal rotflmo


Yes .

Saeed is living in make believe land!

Unlike us FREE people!

London is ruled by a Commie Paki!

The UK is ruled by an Indian.

Scotland is ruled by another Paki.

America got rid of a selfish, stupid, ignorant criminal.

Replaced him by a brainless geriatric who needs handlers.

His second in command is the world record holder in utter stupidity!

Blacks are creating NEW RACISM to fight racism.

Men are claiming they are women.

An incredible choice between two parties.

The most incredibly stupid bunch of brainwashed zombies on the face of the earth.

FREE TO VOTE! rotflmo



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…but at least we get our facts correct, and know some history Smiler
 
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