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Guys! Trump Administration Deported a 2 year old US Citizen
29 April 2025, 21:10
JudgeGGuys! Trump Administration Deported a 2 year old US Citizen
I believe the conclusive presumption of the father’s parental rights (in this instance) is just the opposite of what you claim.
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
She was removed from this nation, without the consent or knowledge of her father who has as much legal right to the child as the mother until a court says otherwise.
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
30 April 2025, 04:17
LHeym500Except, you are wrong states have abandoned in mass a presumption for the mother in favor of a best interest test to be applied to both parent. The majority of states have even adopted a presumption of joint legal custody and joint parenting time.
Louisiana where this child was a resident recognizes joint custody as the de facto to postions.
Thus, your honor, your assertion is incorrect.
https://digitalcommons.law.lsu...=4732&context=lalrev"There shall be a rebuttable presumption that joint custody is on the best interest of a minor child unless: (1) The paren an award of custody to one parent . . ; or (2) That joint custody would not be in the best interest. Although, the presumption is very strong.
Louisiana recognizes a very strong presumption of joint custody. The Louisiana Courts would have to decide any dispute between the parents with the above statutory guidelines.
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
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Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Lane,
It's always amazing to me, when people from other states that have lower population than TX has illegals, offers to opine on the illegals problem - There's more illegals in some square miles of Houston than were sent to NYC, but in NYC, they are a problem and a drain on economics - but when the problem, with it's consequences, are handled, they skyscream -- must be exhausting
Agreed
Yawn, has zero to go with this Citizen grind removed from the United States so any regard for their citizenship nor her citizen father.
The above has zero to do with the fact the mother was forced to make a decision on hours so representation in custody of the Feds.
It amazes me how the Texas contingent, all of you, line up to give the Executive power it does not constitutionally hold. The law, the courts, folks constitutional rights be damned.
M Shy: The father was actively trying to get into court. They is why their is a court case.
Yeah....well....her mother made the decision to come illegal
Y to the united states.....so.....
Decisions all have consequences....
When the kid reaches majority that kid can choose to come to the us....
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Originally posted by Saeed:
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Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
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Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by 300shooter:
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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?
Her father is here dirtbag!
Little girl belongs with her momma and sisters. Her momma wanted her…enough said.
Deporting US citizens is simply disgusting...just like Trump. What a POS.
Would you strip her away from her mother and her sisters?
Why deport the mother??
Isn’t a US citizen allowed to sponsor her family to become citizens?
No excuse whatsoever for this.
Deporting criminals is great!
A two year old sponser???? Really???
What does the UAE do with illegal aliens Saeed?
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Well, that and a harder read of the posted articles, changes everything
The mother was not married to the father..
Father had not been present in child's life, in the least
Since unmarried to each other, mother had sole custody
NBC article states father began attempts to gain custody
Mother was sole custodian and father was unknown to child
Side note, father couldn't be bothered to travel an unknown distance(not even his name is given, nor location nor background) and tried to nominate and unknown to child 3rd party as his "agent"
So, father had no custody, has chosen by action not to assert parental rights, and is unknown to the child
And the mother had sole custody
And some folks wanted to strip the child from her mother, create new rights for an unmarried absent father, traumatized the child and go against the sole custodian THE MOTHERs wishes, just to satisfy their own selfish wishes.
There appears to be only a genetic, not familial relationship between father and child AND the father was content with the situation
I'll stick with my first post on the matter...
Allow me to restate
Momma's baby, poppa's maybe
But the narrative Jeff, the narrative!!!!
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30 April 2025, 09:02
LHeym500There is no maybe. The father in Louisiana enjoys a presumption of custody. That only a Court of competent jurisdiction can find is rebutted.
The child has a right to that legal status as the father’s child. The father dies. That is the law.
These rights were violated. The Executive’s officers cannot destroy that so a hearing. A mother given a few moments to make such a decision without counsel and being told you are going away is unconscionable.
I know Jtex. That is hard for you to understand. We do not expect you to think too hard on it.
02 May 2025, 22:59
jeffeossoAnd now the obverse situation
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/30...ed-mother-latam-intl02 May 2025, 23:30
LHeym500Not the same situation at all.
Oh, I reviews a custody order today. It matches with my prior thoughts on Texas law.
05 May 2025, 20:32
jeffeossoOkay. Here you go.. the biggest difference is that the father is also a dad and nearly the same age daughter stayed with dad
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05...-daughter-intl-latamAs I recall, anytime a citizen is arrested, there is an automatic family separation, should a child be present with the suspect
05 May 2025, 21:10
LHeym500Yeah, the fact this Regime keeps doing this is more proof it needs to stop.
05 May 2025, 21:31
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Yeah, the fact this Regime keeps doing this is more proof it needs to stop.
Exactly the same as Obama and Biden
Remember little Elian? Clinton sent a fully armed tactical team to extract a 6 year old ?
Funny thing, and friend told me, that the law has to apply to everyone, equally.
Clinton, Obama, h Clinton,Schumer and Pelosi have all called for forceful deportations.. Obama deported MILLIONS with little due process, and the left and media said nothing
Obama started family separations and "kids in cages" the left and the media said nothing
Maybe we should follow established law
I believe you have confused situations where the identity of the father has been already been judicially determined (or by other legislative schemes) and those which have not.
There are numerous law review articles on the subject and a cursory reading of the Louisiana statutes show that most references to custody are post filing (or other legitimation) and are presumed after the father has been determined. In the particular case of the child, the father had never been legally acknowledged, nor found to be the father in a court. Until the time that is done, he may have had de facto contact with a child but no de juris right.
Think about the lack of due process to the mother and the child if any male stranger can come up and claim that he’s the father with no finding of fact thereof yet there’s presumed a custodial right. I don’t think so. Once he is determined at law to be the father, then I do believe he should have equal presumptions that the mother has.
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
There is no maybe. The father in Louisiana enjoys a presumption of custody. That only a Court of competent jurisdiction can find is rebutted.
The child has a right to that legal status as the father’s child. The father dies. That is the law.
These rights were violated. The Executive’s officers cannot destroy that so a hearing. A mother given a few moments to make such a decision without counsel and being told you are going away is unconscionable.
I know Jtex. That is hard for you to understand. We do not expect you to think too hard on it.
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
05 May 2025, 21:51
jeffeossoJudge, you might do a quick spell check on that post
I think I have. I’m typing on a small iPhone and I had my eyes dilated at the ophthalmologist today so Lord knows what I’m seeing.
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Okay. Here you go.. the biggest difference is that the father is also a dad and nearly the same age daughter stayed with dad
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05...-daughter-intl-latamAs I recall, anytime a citizen is arrested, there is an automatic family separation, should a child be present with the suspect
Yeah.....the lefties conveniently forget that.....
Parents rob banks....for years.....they raise a family in an upscale neighborhood, send their kids to very nice private schools.....then they get caught, go to jail......
Of course the kids get to remain in the house their parents bought with stolen money......they get to stay in their private schools....I guess the taxpayers need to pay for that....
Its farggen ridiculous how these lefties think.....they have educatio, plenty, just no sense at all!
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Judge, you might do a quick spell check on that post
I dunno..... Much more lucid and readable post than our true legal expert.....little lord fontleroy.....
06 May 2025, 07:06
LHeym500You might hate it, but these children are US citizens and their U.S. citizen parents have rights to those children to be adjudicated by state courts. This is true even in Texas.
06 May 2025, 15:36
jeffeossoUnless ONE party, a single mother with no contact with the father, signs and volunteers to leave with her child. Or the other, actually married couple, where there was no "deportation of a us citizen "
Updated facts alter presumption, and we are past the point where rational people should read past the headline
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Unless ONE party, a single mother with no contact with the father, signs and volunteers to leave with her child. Or the other, actually married couple, where there was no "deportation of a us citizen "
Updated facts alter presumption, and we are past the point where rational people should read past the headline
Headlines are all they have the capacity for.....
Kinda like Maryland father
The dems wasted some political coin on that one!