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why we should remember D-Day:

https://youtu.be/ycHvBT6op5Q?si=rtjToFKHv5haHPQI

Charles Lindbergh and the Rise of 1940s Nazi Sympathizers

https://youtu.be/GzT-hjdnoEc?si=CE5nUFZDcPpbit-Q

Winchell Criticizes 1939 Nazi Rally | Walter Winchell: The Power of Gossip | American Masters | PBS

https://youtu.be/NC1MNGFHR58?si=B_-5mEyLE8p3o812&t=10
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"History may not repeat, but it often rhymes." --Mark Twain

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I wonder what a softball interview by Dr. Phill would look like with Nazi Sympathizer Charles Lindbergh.

This is probably a good clue:

Dr. Phil With President Trump in Exclusive In-Depth Interview

https://youtu.be/SbJZ8ydW40Y?si=ssf6__rgoxiWHCOB

Also:

https://youtu.be/6sAOud-qm38?s...D_gaIHDWDvtBTu&t=316

Is Trumpism Fascism?

AT 10:13

https://youtu.be/6sAOud-qm38?s...Zbxn2m2SKiB9gY&t=613

https://www.bing.com/search?q=...958e9cd78e87&pc=DCTS

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...7811592d407a08&ei=89

Trump loyalist pushes ‘post-constitutional’ vision for second term
Story by Beth Reinhard • 4h • 12 min read

A battle-tested D.C. bureaucrat and self-described Christian nationalist is drawing up detailed plans for a sweeping expansion of presidential power in a second Trump administration. Russ Vought, who served as the former president’s budget chief, calls his political strategy for razing long-standing guardrails “radical constitutionalism.”


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Here's an interesting article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...37b8aa6a18f1c8&ei=47

Long Before the Woke, There Were the Wide Awake

The best part, IMO, is the summation, the last five paragraphs.

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The article above shouldn't be read without the knowledge of the shift in the political parties, which is called The Southern Strategy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in%20their%20support.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Is democrats in America communists?? clap


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The short answer is NO.

IMO, it takes a lot of facts and knowledge to get to the answer NO.

There is a BS narrative that equates democrats to communism. The path to that conclusion is paved with disinformation, misinformation, lies, false beliefs, and ignorance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Left

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/p...democrats-communists

Retread scare: Trump and other Republicans evoke another era by calling Democrats ‘communists’
Politics Jun 19, 2023 3:36 PM EDT

“Democrats tend to message to the part of the brain that is about reason and empirical evidence,” he said. “Republicans message to the gut.”

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OTOH --- The radical right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...right_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_the_United_States

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Both parties have radical factions.

It seems today, that the radical factions, including fascist, in the Right have merged, coalesced, into MAGA Trumpism, with great influence.

The radical factions of the Left are still dispersed, significant but with small political affects on the party as a whole, and platform, policies, etc.


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Liberalism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

Illiberalism:

Illiberal democracy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...l_democracy#See_also

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According to Marlène Laruelle, there are "significant differences between illiberalism and conservatism" as it has been "traditionally understood"

The key element that dissociates illiberalism from conservatism is its relationship to political liberalism. Classical conservatives — such as the Christian Democrats in Europe or the Republican Party in the U.S. before Donald Trump — are/were fervent supporters of political rights and constitutionalism, while illiberalism challenges them. For classical conservatives, the political order is a reflection of the natural and family order, and therefore commands some submission to it. For illiberals, today’s political order is the enemy of the natural order and should be fought against.[17]

In the United States, the Republican Party has in recent years faced criticism that it is becoming increasingly illiberal under the leadership of former President Donald Trump.[46][47][48] According to a 2020 study by the V-Dem Institute, the Republican Party has become more illiberal and populist in the last decade with a large increase under the leadership of Donald Trump.[49][50] Trump's populist style of governance has been considered by some to be a dangerous risk to the heart of liberal democracy, as well as indifference towards traditional democratic allies and praising other "strongman rulers" in the world like Putin.[51]

Authors Cas Mudde and Cristóbal Rovira Kaltwasser discuss the role of populism in deteriorating liberal democracies. Within the article, Mudde and Kaltwasser say that populism—although surrounded by negative connotations—is democratic in nature, as it gives a voice to the people and heavily follows the idea of majoritarian rule. The problem arises within liberal democracies, as the authors say that liberal values and democracy internally contradict each other. Democracy promises majoritarian rule while liberal values promise the protection of minorities.[52] Furthermore, it is said that populism is a product of democracy, but in general populist leaders try to use the democratic aspect of liberal democracies to undermine liberalism. This is closely related to Zakaria's argument. The authors try to establish the idea that the rise of populism is undermining liberal values as populism at its core rejects plurality and minority protection—often the evident liberal values.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Christian Terrorism

Ku Klux Klan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...rrorism#Ku_Klux_Klan

Main article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

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Jewish Space Lazer Republican MTG is a good example of what the republican party has morphed into. If you read "political positions" in the link below, her views cover much of the stuff GOPers spew. She even supported and parroted much of what Alex Jones said about the Sandy Hook murders, crisis actors, etc. She's ultra White Christian Nationalist, aka Christofascist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...#Political_positions

https://www.yahoo.com/news/not...trump-181737617.html

‘This is not what our scriptures teach’: fmr Trump admin DHS official rejects MAGA’s claim on evangelicalism

As the Trump Administration continues to co-opt the language of Christianity - even selling a “God Bless the USA Bible”, an increasing number of evangelical leaders are fighting to reclaim their faith and to help their fellow believers break free from MAGA’s cultish grip. Joining that group is Elizabeth Neumann, a former Homeland Security official who began her career during the aftermath of the September 11th attacks under President George W. Bush, and served as Assistant Secretary for Threat Prevention & Security Policy in the Trump administration until her resignation in 2020. “It is a cult of personality for large swaths of the conservative and Christian community,” says Neumann. Over time, Neumann says she began to recognize that the greatest threat to our national security came from within— from the white nationalists and extremists within her own beloved American evangelical church. “This is not what our scriptures teach.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...2913afcd264081&ei=20

What a fool believes: Donald Trump and America's bogus respect for "faith"
Opinion by Mike Lofgren • 5h • 10 min read


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...18f1c8&ei=85#image=1

Project 2025: Professor Explains Why the Ring-Wing Plan to Dismantle the Government Is Dangerous


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Democrat’s communism.

Pelosi.

Boxer.

AOC.

Newsom.

Stalin would be proud! clap


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(1) Trump wins.

(2) Project 25 is invoked immediately.

(3) The U.S. becomes the world’s most powerful Autocracy, followed by China and Russia.

(4) The division between the 0.1% of supportive oligarchs and the remaining 99.9% of the population will become irrevocable.

(5) Trump and/or his successors will ultimately rule North and South America, Putinites will rule Europe, and China will rule Asia.

If you think Donald Trump has your best interests at heart, you are beyond stupid - and if you haven’t read “1984”, now would be the time.
 
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Well, Saeed, I guess it's how you define communism.

Stretch it to fit.

It doesn't fit in my book of definitions.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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If you think Donald Trump has your best interests at heart, you are beyond stupid - and if you haven’t read “1984”, now would be the time.


The Handmaid's Tale is another.

And Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...1e18fdd7abac54&ei=31

‘An absolute betrayal’: Rep. Raskin slams Republicans for aiding Trump’s plans for retribution

New reporting about how Trump could weaponize U.S. spy services against domestic political enemies if he wins a second term is fueling new concerns about Trump abusing the government for self-serving purposes. Rep. Jamie Raskin joins Ali Velshi to discuss the implications of Trump’s plan to increase executive authority and how Republicans are aiding him in the process. “They’re quite overtly talking about a post-constitutional America,” Rep. Raskin warns. “They’re trying to do what Donald Trump has repeatedly urged, which is to set the Constitution aside and that’s an absolute betrayal of our entire history.”


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Just like you and Fascism.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Well, Saeed, I guess it's how you define communism.

Stretch it to fit.

It doesn't fit in my book of definitions.
 
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I have given a lot of evidence, facts, attributes in support of the notion that Trumpism (aka GOP) is far more akin to fascism than the left is to communism.

I made the claim and supported it.

I also supported my claim that liberalism is not communism.

Now support your claim - actually both claims that Trumpism has little or no resemblance or attributes in common with fascism AND the liberalism is communism.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Just like you and Fascism.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Well, Saeed, I guess it's how you define communism.

Stretch it to fit.

It doesn't fit in my book of definitions.


Exactly!

Neither side looks in the mirror!

ALWAYS blame the other! clap


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I have in the past stated many facts as to how Trump and his politics are not fascism.

You elect to ignore them and go further into your echo chamber regarding that.

As to liberalism and communism, I don't equate the two.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I have given a lot of evidence, facts, attributes in support of the notion that Trumpism (aka GOP) is far more akin to fascism than the left is to communism.

I made the claim and supported it.

I also supported my claim that liberalism is not communism.

Now support your claim - actually both claims that Trumpism has little or no resemblance or attributes in common with fascism AND the liberalism is communism.
 
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Lack of self-awareness, projecting blame, is real, but it's has practically nothing to do with commonly accepted definitions or attributes of a political philosophy.

Everything has a definition. Fascism, communism, conservativism, liberalism all have distinct definitions representing reality. Otherwise, we couldn't tell them apart.

Saying that liberalism is the same thing as communism is on the same plane of nonsense as saying that conservativism is the same as liberalism, or the right is the same as the left, politically.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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As to liberalism and communism, I don't equate the two.



I didn't get that impression from your previous post.

Regarding Trumpism being like, or unlike fascism, name one convincing attribute or fact of Trumpism that makes it obviously unlike fascism.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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There is just too much out there, written or said, about the parallels of Trumpism and fascism.

It's difficult to boil down.

American home-grown fascism has differences compared to historical fascism in Germany and Italy, so direct comparison, though valid, is misleading. Arguing whether Trumpism is really fascism or not tends to dilute the significance of Trumpism. The parallels are there, and not good, assuming fascism tenets are undesirable.

Here's an article. It's long, but thorough.

(one segment)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._illiberal_democracy

Parallels with fascism and trend towards illiberal democracy

One quote really got my attention under Future Impact:

In 2024, President Kevin Roberts of The Heritage Foundation stated that he sees the role of Heritage as "institutionalizing Trumpism."


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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There is just too much out there, written or said, about the parallels of Trumpism and fascism.


That's a matter of opinion, isn't it?

I think Trump is a wannabe fascist. He's not smart enough to pull it off. His coup failed; Hitler's succeeded.
 
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After Hitler decided to work through politics, I always found it ironic the man truly believed he masterminded, engineered a bloodless revolution.

Of course, I think he knew he was lying. See below and in part. There is more just from this one speech.


Herein lies the difference between the National Socialist revolution and other revolutions, with the exception of the fascist revolution in Italy. The National Socialist revolution was almost entirely a bloodless proceeding. When the party took over power in Germany, after overthrowing the very formidable obstacles that had stood in its way, it did so without causing any damage whatsoever to property. I can say with a certain amount of pride that this was the first revolution in which not even a windowpane was broken.

The stupidity of Trump might make him the best tool for a political revolution.

I certainly see that the goal of the MAGA, Christian Nationalist is to remove socio-political loss since 1937. The grievances are the same a unifying folk tied to a more rural, pure culture. A culture and people (folk) made weaker by undesirable inclusion that must be stopped as evil.

Instead of a hard line focus on ethnicity, the focus is on gay/trans, women, urban, with some ethnically overlap.,

Hitler saw it as poorly et ethnically/racial with lower races interjecting “undesirable/weakening” aspects of culture. The new see it more socio-political.
 
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There is just too much out there, written or said, about the parallels of Trumpism and fascism.


That's a matter of opinion, isn't it?

I think Trump is a wannabe fascist. He's not smart enough to pull it off. His coup failed; Hitler's succeeded.


What I meant by that comment was that the volume of so deemed "info" available on associating Trumpism with fascism is too much for me, maybe not everyone. I could read for weeks on this topic and likely not be better informed, and probably get confused.

So, yes, it's a matter of opinion.

I don't have the time or will to read the bulk of it, so practically, choosing what to read, what source, is most likely to succeed in sorting it out. I'm not talking about affirmation but instead considering opposing views from (their) selected facts, evidence and observations. The more logical and persuasive wins. I acknowledge that we all have a personal info sorting mechanism built in, which leads to opinion; it's inevitable but I think we owe it to ourselves and others to develop well-founded fact and evidence-based opinion, not hard-core gut opinion.

Regarding Trump's coup compared to Hitler's, Trump hasn't failed. His "coup" is still ongoing. The methodology he's using is in the fascist playbook.

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In case you didn't see it the first time I posted it, I think this quote from Wikipedia, article link above, is very significant:

In 2024, President Kevin Roberts of The Heritage Foundation stated that he sees the role of Heritage as "institutionalizing Trumpism."
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Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 is all about "institutionalizing Trumpism", which in effect is a coup. They have plenty of well-developed help from many self-deemed conservative orgs, think tanks, individuals, etc. This is not the Founder's Dream. It's their horror/fear instead. It's Steve Bannon's vision, in writing, ready to implement day one, 50,000 shock troops and all.

Practically everything Trump says or does is laying the groundwork with rhetoric undermining institutions, and confidence therein, such as the rule of law, the constitution, justice, elections, and so forth. He's the front man, the sucking backflow undercurrent that exposes the beach sand, for the oncoming Red Tide Tsunami.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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I just learned about a book titled The Jungle Grows Back.

It aligns with what I've been trying to say about Trumpism.

https://www.facebook.com/brook...eos/417650645434190/

https://youtu.be/x1vKjH1g2Eo?s...zO0DZ0_hLFFMWn&t=625


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...0530491219e199&ei=52

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Donald Trump's Christian-nationalist radical has big plans for America
Story by Heather Digby Parton • 8h • 5 min read

Vought is a self-described Christian nationalist who is spearheading plans for a rapid expansion of executive power under a theory he calls “radical constitutionalism" (an oxymoron, but it sure sounds snappy.) He has been working for a right-wing network called the Center for Renewing America, which is full of Trump acolytes, many of whom would likely become high-ranking officials in a future Trump administration. That includes Vought, often discussed as a potential White House chief of staff.

Vought has been named by the Republican National Committee as the policy director for the 2024 platform committee. He wrote the chapter on the executive office of the president for Project 2025. And he is said to be in charge of planning for the first 180 days of a new Trump administration.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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