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How about NitanHitler?

He was in Libya gloating about bringing them DEMOCRACY!

He is arming the New Nazis in Occupied Palestine!

The destruction of Gaza and killing of tens of thousands of innocent people seem to be a non issue for both Fucking Britain and Zionist Slave America!


What a sad world we live in today!

Hitler is laughing his head off in his grave!

He has able replacement in Zionists to continue his elimination of Semites.

The Other Semites!


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Your genocide you refer to would not be happening at all if 1300+ Israelis hadn't been murdered openly, ans Palestinians hadn't totally enabled them. There's always an inconvenient fact.
 
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No, it wouldn’t be, you are correct.

But tens of thousands of non Hamas have been killed since. Two days ago 7 aid workers killed including 3 brits when the Israelis hit an aid convoy with the aid organisation logo clearly painted on the vehicle roofs.

Two wrongs don’t make a right…
 
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Your genocide you refer to would not be happening at all if 1300+ Israelis hadn't been murdered openly, ans Palestinians hadn't totally enabled them. There's always an inconvenient fact.


The New Nazis, the Zionists, have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinians since they illegally occupied their country.

To slow down your ignorance. Look up the BALFOUR DECLARATION!

In which the bloody Brits conveniently promised the persecuted Jews, by Europe, a national home in Palestine!

I won’t hold my breath, know how your political views are!

A sick frog has more sense! rotflmo


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Without the creation of Israel, the country would be what it was before then, a worthless shithole desert. Palestinians could have done the same when they had the chance, but their hatred and goat herder mentality prevented that. There is a reason why Gaza is just a worthless slum. Everything I've seen Israel do over the years has been in self defense, like creating buffer zones, in response to attacks from those brothers your Arab countries won't even tolerate.
 
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Targeting aid organisation vehicles is not self defence, nor is targeting civilians, or preventing medical supplies getting to hospitals, or preventing press access to Gaza.

Saeed, Israel exists, and will continue to do so despite what her neighbours want. It has a right to exist in peace and without being attacked constantly. Anti Israeli governments and individuals providing training, funding and weapons to Hamass is only making the plight of Palestinians worse.
 
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Targeting aid organisation vehicles is not self defence, nor is targeting civilians, or preventing medical supplies getting to hospitals, or preventing press access to Gaza.


The NEW NAZIS do.

Known today as ZIONISTS!

Ably lead by NitanHitler.

Who has the American government nose stuck up his arse!


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I will buy the new Hitler argument when the Israelis start resettling Jewish folks in Gaza.

Yes, the Balfour agreement was pretty egregious (and IIRC it predated WWII)

Zionism isn’t great. It’s a reaction to persecution and can be understood, but that doesn’t make it right.

That being said, there is no contesting that the Jewish people came from the area known as Israel and were persecuted elsewhere. It is their home… as it was for the Arab Palestinians.

The rest of the Arabs want nothing to do with the Palestinians and their poor behavior… if they were productive folks they would be welcomed in new places- but their only real ability seems to be violence and grievance politics.

I don’t disagree that bombing a aid convoy is a mistake, and wrong… but the evidence is certainly there that the Palestinians and Hamas have been using humanitarian groups a cover for their violence for quite some time.

After the cowardly and despicable attacks that Hamas and by tolerance, the Palestinians, committed against Israel, I can’t really condemn Israel’s acts generally.

Invasion, obtaining unconditional surrender, and then occupation with rebuilding seems reasonable.

But it’s Israel and the Arab’s problem, not the west’s.
 
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I would support conditioning aide, military supplies, on Netanyahu resigning.

This attack, that killed US Nationals, on aid convey correlated w the IDF, the funding of Hamas he sanctioned to prevent moderate Palestinian party from taking control, and his comment to not work to a two state solution, and the crimes he was being prosecuted for, means he has to go.

There is a former general on the Cabinet, Mr. Gantz would be acceptable.
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Whilst I agree with the sentiment that the Palestinians were the author of their own demise in electing Hamas, that took place in circa 2006. There have been no election since, Hamas on more than 1 occasion has executed Palestinians who it viewed as happy to work with Israel and at the end of the day, they have all the guns.

Opinion polls taken prior to the 2023 invasion put support for Hamas amongst Palestinians at below 50%.

Gaza has a very young population, I can't recall the exact numbers but around half of the population are kids who weren't even born in 2006. That they are all helping, supporting or even just pro Hamas is just a convenient assumption.

The aid convoy vehicles were spread out over a mile or so. The photos I saw of one showed it having a hole in its roof, consistent with probably being hit by an FPV drone (admittedly just my assumption). All 3 vehicles were targeted. It certainly isn't the case that ... oops, you were in the wrong place when we dropped a bomb nearby.
 
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If only there was oil there.
 
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Targeting aid organisation vehicles is not self defence, nor is targeting civilians, or preventing medical supplies getting to hospitals, or preventing press access to Gaza.


Scorched Earth. Sometimes the fastest & least deadly way to an end. Example...Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Like it or not a lot fewer people died in the end. Sherman's march to the sea definitely brought an earlier end to the civil war. Palestinians still think the answer to all their problems is to kill all Israelis.
 
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I forget which one, but one of those was a tactical target. There was war infrastructure (arms) being built that got that one, one of the H bombs.
 
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Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen for military reasons, but certainly had high numbers of collateral casualties.

Nagasaki was a secondary target. The primary target was obscured so they hit Nagasaki.

They deliberately didn’t hit Tokyo because they were concerned that without the emperor there would be no one to declare a surrender.

The Japanese were lucky they were the secondary theater. No way we would have allowed the conditional surrender we allowed them if we were not having significant war weariness at that point.


Oh, and no one has ever used an H bomb in a conflict. Those are much bigger than a fission weapon like the atomic bombs used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
 
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If only there was oil there.


The Leviathan natural gas field is not far away, and I idly wonder if a republic in Gaza would raise any claim to it.


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