And nothing is beyond the contemptible Marjorie Taylor Greene, who really belongs in a mental institution besides the Congress.
From the Bulwark this morning:


It’s Not Just Trump Anymore
Wake up, babe, new MAGA lore just dropped: Crooked Joe Biden tried to kill your favorite president, Donald J. Trump!

That’s the word on the street in Trumpworld media today, anyway. “The Biden DOJ and FBI were planning to assassinate Pres Trump and gave the green light,” Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted. “Does everyone get it yet???!!!!”

“WOW!” Donald Trump truthed. “I just came out of the Biden Witch Hunt Trial in Manhattan, the ‘Icebox,’ and was shown Reports that Crooked Joe Biden’s DOJ, in their Illegal and UnConstitutional Raid of Mar-a-Lago, AUTHORIZED THE FBI TO USE DEADLY (LETHAL) FORCE. NOW WE KNOW, FOR SURE, THAT JOE BIDEN IS A SERIOUS THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.”

Trump went further in a Tuesday fundraising email: “They were authorized to shoot me!”

“You know they’re just itching to do the unthinkable,” the email blasted out to millions of the president’s fans went on. “Joe Biden was locked & loaded ready to take me out & put my family in danger.”

We hope you’re sitting down for this: It is not actually true that Biden tried to have Trump assassinated. (But would he have absolute immunity from prosecution if he did? The Supreme Court will get around to determining that, one of these days.)

This particular narrative was launched yesterday by January 6th conspiracy theorist (her words!) and friend of the show Julie Kelly, who while rummaging through filings in Trump’s classified documents case stumbled across some FBI policy statements on how the execution of its search warrant would proceed operationally. One of those documents was a “policy statement” on the “use of deadly force.”

Even a cursory read of this document makes it painfully obvious that it’s a bog-standard piece of paperwork—copied word for word from the DOJ’s policy book, the Justice Manual—limiting when armed agents are allowed to use force: “only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.” Most of the document is a series of “what ifs”: “Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject.” “Firearms may not be fired solely to disable moving vehicles.” “Warning shots are not permitted outside the prison context.” And so on.

It’s worth noting that not just FBI agents are allowed to use deadly force when they’re in imminent danger of death—so are you. Even at properties owned by a former president! Say you’re having a pleasant evening at Mar-a-Lago when a crazed lunatic (Rudy Giuliani, perhaps?) leaps from the bushes to murder you. Defending yourself from that attack would be a-okay under Florida law and common sense. It certainly would not constitute an attempted “assassination.”

As Reuters crime and justice reporter Brad Heath pointed out last night, “These are the rules that apply to FBI agents whenever they do anything.”

“Agents, like all cops, can use deadly force when met with a sufficiently serious threat,” Heath wrote. “The policy the FBI followed here applies all the time; they are the same rules agents follow when walking down a sidewalk.”

Do we need to keep piling up the details? How about the fact that the FBI deliberately raided Mar-a-Lago when Trump wasn’t there?

“MAGAworld invents supposed Biden outrage out of whole cloth” isn’t exactly a ‘man bites dog’ story. But a couple things need pointing out here.

One is the lunatic speed at which new lies can metastasize these days in the Trump infotainment fever swamps: This story made its way from Kelly to Greene to Trump within just a few hours.

Another is this: This is not entirely, or even primarily, a Trump problem anymore. The person who did the most to make sure this story caught on was Greene. And she did it for her own political purposes.

“Were they going to shoot SS then Pres Trump, Melania, and Barron too???” she tweeted. “Speaker Mike Johnson fully funded the DOJ and FBI plus new building and tied our hands behind our backs to hold them accountable.”

Then, later: “What are Republicans going to do about it? I tried to oust our Speaker who funded Biden’s DOJ AND FBI, but Democrats stopped it.”

Just a few years ago, fever-swamp stuff like this was ignored or shrugged off as a distraction by every elected Republican not named Donald Trump. Now, powerful members of Congress who live and breathe the fever swamps use this stuff every day to advance their own internal political ends.

Finally, there’s this. It’s easy (and even fun!) to laugh at the stupidity of this sort of MAGA news cycle. But the people who swallow it without a second thought aren’t laughing—they’re filling up to the brim with rage. Joe Biden tried to have Donald Trump killed is a belief that’s going straight to core storage for a big, big number of increasingly radicalized Republicans. It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to see how that ends in tears.

—Andrew Egger

Looney tunes .

How can anyone vote for such a moron.

Isn't there some form of code of conduct for those in public office or censure for people blatantly misrepresenting things (tho I guess trump would have been pretty much constantly in trouble were that the case).

Words fail me...I have very little respect for most of the politicians here but compared to Trump and MTG they are a bunch of genius choir boys and girls.

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How can anyone vote for such a moron.

Good question. Best ask the Texas Trumpateers here. I’m sure they got a good rationalization all ready to go. You know, like the one that excuses his immoral, illegal, bizarre behavior….

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Originally posted by nute:
How can anyone vote for such a moron.

Isn't there some form of code of conduct for those in public office or censure for people blatantly misrepresenting things (tho I guess trump would have been pretty much constantly in trouble were that the case).

Words fail me...I have very little respect for most of the politicians here but compared to Trump and MTG they are a bunch of genius choir boys and girls.

I have thought the same thing for a while and have been mystified how people can vote for these morons. We have one of those nut balls here in Montana that got elected. Matt Rosendale. When he first ran you could tell he was a nut ball and I did not even give him a chance at all of getting elected but he did. I could not believe anyone would vote for him.

People on this forum gave me the answer. It is called party voting. There are a surprising number of people who will vote for the candidate of their party no matter who it is. That is what happened with Matt Rosendale here in Montana, he was a republican and since he was the only republican running all the republican voters rallied behind him and voted him in office. They could care less that he was an idiot Loonie Toon all that mattered was he was a republican. I think the same thing is happening all over the country, the good people are deciding not to run because they do not want the hassle of the office so all we get are the loonie Toons to run.

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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How can anyone vote for such a moron.

Good question. Best ask the Texas Trumpateers here. I’m sure they got a good rationalization all ready to go. You know, like the one that excuses his immoral, illegal, bizarre behavior….

What's Texas got to do with anything? MTG is from your neighborhood, I credit you and M.E. for that blessing to Congress.

I still say MTG should be Speaker, I need to get some t shirts made.

What does Texas have to do with this shitstorm? What bunch are the most vociferous here defending him? MTG represents a small district in NW GA. She is a far cry from representing the state as a whole. Did you forget who carried GA in 2020? Asking for a friend

I wrote in Rick Perry in the Texas Primary.

But I will go all in for Trump in the General.

The only thing the USA has to worry about is the socialist, atheist, anti-American, big government loving, gun hating Democratic Party.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I wrote in Rick Perry in the Texas Primary.

But I will go all in for Trump in the General.

The only thing the USA has to worry about is the socialist, atheist, anti-American, big government loving, gun hating Democratic Party.

Atheist?? You mean like the pussy grabbing, whore hopping, narcissistic orange jesus?? Just asking for a friend….

For what it’s worth, I didn’t vote in yesterday’s primary. I refuse to compromise my morals for economic expediency…..

MU allows you to vote non-committed.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
What does Texas have to do with this shitstorm? What bunch are the most vociferous here defending him? MTG represents a small district in NW GA. She is a far cry from representing the state as a whole. Did you forget who carried GA in 2020? Asking for a friend

I'm kidding, lighten up.

But I do think MTG should be Speaker.

Wow, record class lame.
I googled "MTG tshirts" and all I got was Magic the Gathering. Like some kind of nerd Dungeon and Dragons thing.

Looks like I'm going to have to spend some money on graphic design.

I take it back, Amazon has a plethora of Marjorie Greene apparel.
Order placed.

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I take it back, Amazon has a plethora of Marjorie Greene apparel.
Order placed.

Do any of them have DUMBO the flying elephant on them?

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Originally posted by nute:
How can anyone vote for such a moron.

Isn't there some form of code of conduct for those in public office or censure for people blatantly misrepresenting things (tho I guess trump would have been pretty much constantly in trouble were that the case).

Words fail me...I have very little respect for most of the politicians here but compared to Trump and MTG they are a bunch of genius choir boys and girls.

WRONG!

How can ANYONE VOTE for ANY AMERICAN POLITICIAN??

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I wrote in Rick Perry in the Texas Primary.

But I will go all in for Trump in the General.

The only thing the USA has to worry about is the socialist, atheist, anti-American, big government loving, gun hating Democratic Party.

Atheist?? You mean like the pussy grabbing, whore hopping, narcissistic orange jesus?? Just asking for a friend….

Just in case you are confused…sinning and believing are two different things.

Hope this helps.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t vote in yesterday’s primary. I refuse to compromise my morals for economic expediency…..

Well now that will teach’em!

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
For what it’s worth, I didn’t vote in yesterday’s primary. I refuse to compromise my morals for economic expediency…..

Well now that will teach’em!

Why am I not surprised that you fail to recognize a man taking a principled stand?

I do hope you are right though, if enough principled Republicans fail to vote for Trump, maybe the MAGA crowd would learn from it? Nah, they will just say the election was stolen

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jdollar:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
I wrote in Rick Perry in the Texas Primary.

But I will go all in for Trump in the General.

The only thing the USA has to worry about is the socialist, atheist, anti-American, big government loving, gun hating Democratic Party.

Atheist?? You mean like the pussy grabbing, whore hopping, narcissistic orange jesus?? Just asking for a friend….

Just in case you are confused…sinning and believing are two different things.

Hope this helps.

"sinning and believing are two different things"

Wow, loaded again!

Two things within the context of one thing - religion.

"Sinning" has a specific meaning/definition applicable only in a religious context, not limited just to Christianity; all religions as far as I know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin

"Sinning" has no meaning outside religious context. Transgressions, immoral, amoral, unethical, criminal, etc., are secular words, for what culture or society deems bad behavior.

"Believing" can be in religious context or not, but I'm sure you mean it in the religious context, as in True Believer.

Trump is a charlatan in all aspects, religious, politically, decently, broad scale. He's a predatory pretender, fake, con artist. There are Biblical explanations for his type, all in behest of the devil. In the religious context he is not redeemed because in asking for redemption part of the contract for receiving it is the promise to stop sinning, or at least rampantly. Trump hasn't asked for religious redemption and continues bad behavior in both religious and secular context, rampantly. Thus, he has defied and befouled both redemption and secular accountability.

There is so much written about this, making it difficult to be concise.

CHARLATANS, FALSE PROPHETS AND FLIMFLAMMERS

Texas Observer

https://www.texasobserver.org/...nalism-john-burnett/

(excerpts)

My late father-in-law, an Episcopal priest, had a cartoon taped to his kitchen wall in Sherman that skewers an obnoxious feature of American religion. In the cartoon, a grinning devil, sitting on a throne surrounded by flames, instructs a horned apprentice, suitcase in hand, who is about to head upstairs to torture the human race.

“Remember to quote lots of Scripture,” Satan says.

the quip I saw on a refrigerator magnet. A man says to the Prince of Peace: “Please Jesus, protect me from your followers.”

The genius of aberrant Christianity, throughout history, seems to be how effortlessly it accommodates whatever the prophet du jour wants to get away with.

Part of the reason this bothers me is that, as a Christian, I find it repugnant to see the loving, peaceable teachings of Jesus distorted over and over. Worse, reporters often let conservative Christians get away with speaking for all believers.

Bakker and Dortch ended up in federal prison for duping believers into investing in the development. Thanks to Bakker, PTL, which he intended to be Praise the Lord, has become known as Pass the Loot.

in January after 36 years, I’ve been trying to process all the church scandals and schisms and falls from grace that I’ve covered. They all shared the same throughline: People of faith trusted a man with Rev. before his name who seemed to have a hotline to God. I’ve asked myself how these charismatic figures, reeking with the musk of prophecy, led their gullible flocks into dark places over and over?

I posed that question to my friend, the Rev. Cynthia Briggs Kittredge, dean of the Episcopal Seminary of the Southwest in Austin.

“People are attracted to certainty, to non-ambiguity,” she said. “Making decisions for yourself and doing the work of discernment, that’s really hard work. When someone comes and says, ‘I have all the answers,’ that’s seductive, especially for people who feel vulnerable.”

Of all the misguided religious movements I’ve chronicled, none comes close to the white evangelicals that currently espouse Trumpism within the ideology of Christian Nationalism.

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Sin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...nd_evil#Christianity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ing_of_good_and_evil

We got it gay people are amoral, abominations, although the New Testament does not recodify any prohibition.

President Trump is Christian, God’s anointed. David for the 21st Century.

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I take it back, Amazon has a plethora of Marjorie Greene apparel.
Order placed.

Save me one of the Neanderthal Taylor Greene t's please....

https://www.tiktok.com/@brett....925843971371?lang=en

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...LS2?ocid=socialshare

See GOP lawmaker’s response when pressed on conspiracy about search on Trump’s home

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...wNe?ocid=socialshare

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...e3cd9ec588e27a&ei=10

'They always manage to sink lower': Trump degrades GOP with demands for legal protection

Republican Party leadership has so thoroughly debased itself to stand up for Donald Trump