"In tapping Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) as his running mate, Donald Trump chose someone who has said he would have done what Vice President Mike Pence refused to do — ignore the Constitution and try to derail certification of Trump’s election loss in 2020.

Vance has said he would have used the vice president’s role overseeing the electoral count to recognize Trump electors from states the then-president didn’t win and that Congress “should have fought over it from there.” That, he said in February as he auditioned to be Trump’s pick, was the proper way to deal with an election “that had a lot of problems.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com...y-6-election-denial/

LOL

Of course he is, it was a requirement to get the VP nomination. The reason why Tim Scott never had a prayer. You have to show your loyalty to the Orange Jesus in today's GOP.

Vance also supports and has voiced that support for Project 25 policy to fire merit based civil servants. Those merit based civil servants replaced with political appointees.

Vance has advocated the election was stolen stating states should have sent skates of electors (fraudulent electors I might add) for Congress to choose from.

When asked about rape and incest exceptions for abortion his original response, “Two wrongs do not make a right.”

I know, I know, he relies not mean those things.

There will be no ticket w Vance on it that gets my vote.

I guess you just let with supporting Joe then.

Vance is a reflection of the reality that, in this election cycle, with the Trumpeteers fully in charge, a candidate will kiss Trumps ass or will be ridiculed and rejected. A Republican is judged by the amount of support he shows for Donald Trump. Those who see Trump's flaws or recognize his mistakes, keep quiet about it. Love of country, the desire to serve the nation, these things are secondary. The desire to serve Trump is the one attribute one must demonstrate to survive in today's GOP. On the other hand, the result is at least the appearance of a united party. That such unity is achieved at the expense of free thought or considered dissension seems to be immaterial.
Nonetheless, the party at leat offers a path away from the wokeism which has done so much to add to the divisions in our society. As a Democrat, you don't have to suck up to the leader, you must genuflect to the ideology. One thing that has to be said about Obama, he led the party. Joe Biden couldn't lead a puppy on a leash. They'd both get lost. Regards, Bill

I dunno Bill, which has caused the most division, wokeism or Trumpism's reaction to it?

Such reaction, of course, includes the fomentation of project 2025, and in some ways the support of Trump.

I mean, which is the greatest existential threat to the governance?

Wokeism was a social or cultural movement within the system. It pretty much fizzled out on its own. It never did challenge the basic principles of governance.

Trumpism is that too, but goes much further with the goal of changing the system to something not present before, including dominion, especially Christian Nationalism, abandoning environmental protections, etc., etc., and so forth.

Anyway:

https://youtu.be/5eMMZksZSL8?si=1DUH0OXoUQJ4amN6

JD Vance ain't it.

Bill, let's talk about babble, mine and especially yours.

Someone accused me of babble, which is why I brought it up.

Here are some videos of babble.

After watching them, get back with me about comparisons of democrats and what GOPers have become, or tolerated or perhaps just like the rest of us - over run. Perhaps these links will serve as a small sample of the roots of division. After all, how does a nation of mostly sane people reconcile with insanity and radicalism?

https://youtu.be/SMsnddcPlOM?si=nIQkEgvY2JHIhHEq

"They Are Celebrating In Moscow Tonight" - Rep. Kinzinger On Trump Selecting J.D. Vance As VP

https://youtu.be/jSwZ6VSpuOc?si=0H0mxOKygKBAGPPP

Rep. Adam Kinzinger On Trump's Cult-Level Control Over The Republican Party
July 16

https://youtu.be/pOWInXnEOJE?si=-P1dAiNGoJ6P06wn

(special attention to segment at 3:20)

"Jan 6 Was Trump's Last Desperate Move" - Rep. Kinzinger On Trump's Attempt To Stay In Power In 2020

Rep. Adam Kinzinger argues that the insurrection on Jan 6, 2021 was the culmination of months of work by Donald Trump to cling to power after losing the 2020 presidential election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...c84c779162786c&ei=55

Stephen Colbert found this part of Marjorie Taylor Greene’s RNC speech ‘absolutely chilling’
Story by Amelia Neath • 20h • 4 min read

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...092a83b50921a&ei=163

Rep. Greene To Reporter: ‘You’re the Cause’ of Assassination Attempt

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This last one is especially disturbing. It's sick and gets sicker the more you watch it. I couldn't watch it all. I had breakfast recently and don't want to throw up. But watch 2 or 3 minutes at least to get the gest.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/n...s90?ocid=socialshare

'Literally Insane': Marjorie Taylor Greene's Controversial Appearance on Tucker Carlson's Show

Late last year Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene made a lengthy appearance on Tucker Carlson's X program. The show received much criticism, with some calling Marjorie Taylor Greene 'literally insane'.

"'Literally Insane': Marjorie Taylor Greene's Controversial Appearance on Tucker Carlson's Show

Late last year Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene made a lengthy appearance on Tucker Carlson's X program. The show received much criticism, with some calling Marjorie Taylor Greene 'literally insane'."

And republicans will shoehorn her right back in because stupid & crazy are OK with them. Example.....Herschel Walker. He was their guy, full on.

I will see you MTG and Bobert as crazies and raise you Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, that wacko lady with all the cowboy hats and Hank “Guam might tip over” Johnson.

Both sides have their loons and they all sickitate me.