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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Well, one way to Devine truth is to turn allegations of abuse over to professional law enforcement and prosecutors instead of not removing persist.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The point is The Faction on here has told us all our great social problems will be largely mitigated if we just went back to mandating religion belief (pray in school, Jesus monument at the city square, 10 Commandments in the Courtroom).

That as evidenced is not true.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
A certain percentage of the population is sociopathic.

Any group that has an opportunity for abuse attracts those types… the problem is the groups monitoring for that.

Given the catholic church’s (logical, if not practical) insistence on celibacy and poverty of person, the priesthood has had a lot of trouble recruiting, and like the military in good times, has issues with both numbers and retention.

Add on that the church hierarchy tends to be rather progressive (and buys into the disease, not choice model of thinking, and buys into the I went to treatment, so now I’m cured model of thinking (helped by the Christian view of forgiveness) you get folks that should not be in a position kept there.

Pedophiles are quite good at hiding their issues, and troubled folks do lie about things.

The Democratic Party says pedophilia is OK...just another "type" of sexuality.

How does one determine who is telling the truth, who is a potential issue, and who should be removed?

The church has issues with how to deal with conflict, and then add in its reluctance to remove someone (it’s a spiritual damnation in addition to an employment issue) and it’s ripe for problems.

Church leadership is generally selected due to popularity and closeness to religious ideals, not overt leadership ability.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The point is The Faction on here has told us all our great social problems will be largely mitigated if we just went back to mandating religion belief (pray in school, Jesus monument at the city square, 10 Commandments in the Courtroom).

That as evidenced is not true.

Mandating???

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The point is The Faction on here has told us all our great social problems will be largely mitigated if we just went back to mandating religion belief (pray in school, Jesus monument at the city square, 10 Commandments in the Courtroom).

That as evidenced is not true.

Mandating???

Mandating: Class we are now going to have pray. That is mandating, compelled speech.

See the basic examples in my post. When local governments put the 10 Commandments in a Courtroom the local government (counties are Subdivisions of States) you are endorsing the approved religious thought. That is mandating.

You tried to soften the word compelled once. Use whatever word you like being Mandate or compel. Those two words are synonyms.

No Democrat nor Republican on Congress of Dem Governor says sex with juveniles is okay.

Name me a Dem Congressperson or Dem Governor who says so.

I have heard Judges in Republican Counties here says child porn is a victimless crime.

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Websters:
mandating (present participle)

require (something) to be done; make mandatory

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Consent to sex being 16 is not the same as an adult forcing a 14 year old to take nude pictures that get uploaded nationally to the internet after a Jury guilty verdict.

It is not a victimless crime anywhere.

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I do know that there are some avowed democrats who feel that pedophilia should not be a crime.

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Originally posted by theback40:
Better do some reading pimple.
Many doctors even, call pedophilia a disorder, not a crime. Some dems ( and others who think this way) say sexual abuse is a crime, pedophilia is not.

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
My point of posting those facts to demonstrate that it’s damn easy to talk the talk, but walking the walk is another matter.

If so many Christians are fakes, are phonies, how can you know which ones are the real deal? When infected with such sleeze balls, why should the government promote and cause to be promoted and views by these yahoos, as many on here advocate for?

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Originally posted by ledvm:
California’s Democrat Governor Gavin Newsome recently signed into law SB 145, which exempts a person convicted of non-forcible sodomy with a minor, oral copulation with a minor, or sexual penetration with a minor, as specified, from having to automatically register as a sex offender under the Sex Offender Registry Act if the person was not more than 10 years older than the minor at the time of the offense, and the conviction is the only one requiring the person to register.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
California’s Democrat Governor Gavin Newsome recently signed into law SB 145, which exempts a person convicted of non-forcible sodomy with a minor, oral copulation with a minor, or sexual penetration with a minor, as specified, from having to automatically register as a sex offender under the Sex Offender Registry Act if the person was not more than 10 years older than the minor at the time of the offense, and the conviction is the only one requiring the person to register.

I can sort of see the rationale for such a law. Kids are having sex at young ages these days. If a 15-year old has sex with a 16-year old, should the 16 year old be put on a sex offender registry for the rest of his life?

Who is exploiting whom in that sex act?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
my God is not Dr. Easter’s version.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
It's not a crime to be sexually attracted to kids. It IS a mental disorder. These hypothetical Dems aren't wrong.

The crime is in acting on one's pedophilia. Such pedophiles belong in prison. Pedophiles that don't act on it deserve treatment.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
So why is the Bible so hard to interpret correctly? Why is it so subject to misinterpretation?

Why didn't God communicate His wishes for humanity in a clear and concise way? Poor communication is almost always the author's fault. If the Bible is ambiguous, how can it be infallible?

Please don't fall back on "God works in mysterious ways." If God made us in His own image, doesn't that include our minds? So we ought to be able to understand what he expects from us. If we can't, it's the Bible's Author who is at fault.