Excerpt from the article:

Ukraine's security service, the SBU, said in a social media post “agents mined the supports of this illegal facility. And today, without any civilian casualties , at 4:44 am the first explosive device was activated!"

The post was accompanied by a video showing an explosion near one of the bridge supports and a still image showing damage to railings above.

The image and video both appear to be taken from CCTV footage, with the latter bearing a timestamp for today at 06:22 local time.

The footage allowed us to geolocate the explosion to the eastern edge of the road bridge beneath an arched section.

According to one state-run Russian news agency the bridge was closed for three hours this morning.

We cannot yet verify the SBU's claim that it used 1.1 tonnes of explosives and the bridge was left "in a state of emergency".

We are now looking into reports of another incident at the bridge which forced it to close again.

The 10-mile Kerch Bridge was inaugurated in 2018, four years after Russia's annexation of the peninsula. It is considered a legitimate military target by Ukraine.

The Whitehouse press conference.
Reporter.- "a while ago the president told Zelensky that he'd didn't hold any cards. Is it possible he had cards the president didn't know about?"

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Originally posted by shankspony:
The Whitehouse press conference.
Reporter.- "a while ago the president told Zelensky that he'd didn't hold any cards. Is it possible he had cards the president didn't know about?"

There is something else about this of significance.

Here's a video, from Maddow, which I know Rightists despise, but if you can't stand the whole thing then scroll to the closing statements.

On second thought, I copied the link starting at that part.

https://youtu.be/DMa71RVpJcA?s...6s5HqvgEnYwP8k&t=265

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Originally posted by shankspony:
The Whitehouse press conference.
Reporter.- "a while ago the president told Zelensky that he'd didn't hold any cards. Is it possible he had cards the president didn't know about?"

Very good

Ukraine is consistently innovating and finding new ways to use what they have in the most effective way possible. Long may it continue ...

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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The damage Putin has inflicted goes far beyond that, intentionally targeting and killing civilians.

Ukraine's numerous attempts at bombing Moscow would be targeting military installations?
Just accept that the majority of these attempted strikes were intercepted and little or no damage done otherwise it would have been a carnage.

To say that Putin's generals were intentionally targeting and killing civilians is a matter of opinion; civilians regrettably always get the short end of the stick ... in any war.

War is full of atrocities committed by all sides so better not to even go down that road.

God damn you’re stupid.

Nowhere near half as stupid as you, who believes every bit of concocted, biased propaganda information that the media is feeding us with.

Regrettably in the past several decades the media has been politicized and has gone out of control; there was a time when "scoops" were subject to censorship but no longer exists possibly due to the "right of expression" or "freedom of speech" and therefore the BS is being spewed for public consumption, to believe or not believe.

Where in the world have you seen or heard of container tops being remotely flipped open and releasing swarms of drones (already lethally armed of course) with enough power to decimate a large proportion of the enemy's aircraft if not science fiction at its best?

Not even the mighty military departments of the USA possess or have even heard of such devices (flip top containers) and the drones shown in photos are incapable of conducting strikes of such devastating magnitude but more so inclined to be used for surveillance purposes.

Are these the same type of drones used to take out individuals like Solimani or those used by the IDF in targeting high profile Hamas/Hezbollah individuals riding in their cars or conducting a meeting in a building in the city center; similar to the US one recently shot down or crash-landed in Yemen?

No, I don't believe they are one and the same.

The detailed figures regurgitated by ME are also questionable in that someone (media or Ukraine Defense Authorities) were able to provide such figures with such accuracy with a full blown war going on.

Yet the gullible percentage of the public swallows all the reports hook, line and sinker!

Are you still sticking by this idiotic drivel?

Just asking for a friend…..

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Originally posted by nute:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
The Whitehouse press conference.
Reporter.- "a while ago the president told Zelensky that he'd didn't hold any cards. Is it possible he had cards the president didn't know about?"

Very good

Ukraine is consistently innovating and finding new ways to use what they have in the most effective way possible. Long may it continue ...

The Ukrai8ne is being used as a puppet by the West to destroy Russia!

And the West ain't winning!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by nute:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
The Whitehouse press conference.
Reporter.- "a while ago the president told Zelensky that he'd didn't hold any cards. Is it possible he had cards the president didn't know about?"

Very good

Ukraine is consistently innovating and finding new ways to use what they have in the most effective way possible. Long may it continue ...

The Ukrai8ne is being used as a puppet by the West to destroy Russia!

And the West ain't winning!

Of course you are right. The West forced Russia to invade Ukraine and kill civilians.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by nute:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
The Whitehouse press conference.
Reporter.- "a while ago the president told Zelensky that he'd didn't hold any cards. Is it possible he had cards the president didn't know about?"

Very good

Ukraine is consistently innovating and finding new ways to use what they have in the most effective way possible. Long may it continue ...

The Ukrai8ne is being used as a puppet by the West to destroy Russia!

And the West ain't winning!

Of course you are right. The West forced Russia to invade Ukraine and kill civilians.

Yes.

Just like Vietnam stated the war with the Gulf of Tonkin Incident!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

The Ukrai8ne is being used as a puppet by the West to destroy Russia!

And the West ain't winning!

Do you mean like a proxy?

If that was true then Trump is putting on a good show defeating that first premise.

The second premise is yet to be seen.

For examples - Zelensky kept Trump out of the loop of knowledge before his big strikes recently. And for good reason. Trump can't be trusted with such foreknowledge.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...=socialshare#image=2

A bold new target: Ukraine’s next move has Russia on edge

Trump spent over an hour on the phone with Putin after which he said Putin plans to retaliate yugely. In the news I read, Trump didn't say he tried to talk him out of it and move towards peace instead. I don't know if there's a transcript. But I figure Trump knows a lot more about Putin's plans than Zelensky's.

And most importantly, Putin has Trump and all his "cards" figured out, if not informed directly.

Search on: Russian intelligence identified Trump as useful

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

And Pee Tapes:

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...OoZ?ocid=socialshare

Vladimir Putin issues chilling warning over Ukraine drone attack in phone call to Donald Trump

If Trump, a leader of the "west" as you claim, was running a proxy war, he missed a world changing opportunity, which would have earned him the Peace Prize and the glory.

Operation Spiderweb, if Trump, the west, had been part of it, Putin's whole nuke deterrent assets could have been destroyed in one swoop, without the West's direct involvement in the event.

Now there's a new concern revealed:

https://apnews.com/article/rus...opy&utm_medium=share

Ukraine’s drone attack on Russian air bases is a lesson for the West on its vulnerabilities

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It's a very good thing that we have the very best people, anointed by Trump, looking out for our national security, etc.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...jbp?ocid=socialshare

The Great Quack Revival
Story by Sarah Jones • 3h • 8 min read

Something occurred to me after posting above.

When would be the perfect timing and place, with advance planning, for a terrorist attack? To have the greatest effect, both in damage and for Trump's crisis opportunity?

Think about that.

https://youtu.be/frrAFSCGkWI?s...BJPjoAx0AQhtEx&t=589

I posted this in another thread, but it's relevant here too:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
What we are discussing here is Trump's intentional breakdown of the system, with support from various sources, a coalition.

His attacks and tactics are multi, well planned.

I'm sure most agree that it's for authoritarian type of power.

There are certain events in common in all authoritarian plots. One foremost is never let a good crisis go to waste.

We saw it somewhat in action with FDR and Bush's 911. But Trump will do or try to do much more, not to restore or safeguard normalcy but to usher a new normal in his image.

I can't predict if Trump will create or facilitate a crisis of whatever magnitude, but surly he would if he or his handlers think it would move their agenda faster. I hate to think that's a possibility, but given all we know it's a reasoned worry.

I don't like to delve into anything resembling a conspiracy theory, so I'll just say I think this is different in that we know he aspires authoritarianism, and we know he will push it. We just don't yet know how hard and how far. Assuming the worst is a safe bet.

Accordingly, I'll post this video:

Note, I started the video after the intro and promotion for brevity's sake. The intro is a good summary of his premise. If an ad pops up, in a few seconds skip it.

https://youtu.be/AxcXv5Fjg0U?si=8HuEZFIAKKciwAxI&t=98

98 minutes ago

Trump's Administration Is Leaving The US Wide Open To A Terrorist Attack. Is This Deliberate?

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
The Whitehouse press conference.
Reporter.- "a while ago the president told Zelensky that he'd didn't hold any cards. Is it possible he had cards the president didn't know about?"

Very good

Ukraine is consistently innovating and finding new ways to use what they have in the most effective way possible. Long may it continue ...

The Ukrai8ne is being used as a puppet by the West to destroy Russia!

And the West ain't winning!

Pretty clever of the west to force Putin to invade Ukraine. Maybe we can force North Korea to invade China ...

If the west isn't winning it must therefore be Russia who is, except their soldiers evidently haven't received the email ...

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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The damage Putin has inflicted goes far beyond that, intentionally targeting and killing civilians.

Ukraine's numerous attempts at bombing Moscow would be targeting military installations?
Just accept that the majority of these attempted strikes were intercepted and little or no damage done otherwise it would have been a carnage.

To say that Putin's generals were intentionally targeting and killing civilians is a matter of opinion; civilians regrettably always get the short end of the stick ... in any war.

War is full of atrocities committed by all sides so better not to even go down that road.

God damn you’re stupid.

Nowhere near half as stupid as you, who believes every bit of concocted, biased propaganda information that the media is feeding us with.

Regrettably in the past several decades the media has been politicized and has gone out of control; there was a time when "scoops" were subject to censorship but no longer exists possibly due to the "right of expression" or "freedom of speech" and therefore the BS is being spewed for public consumption, to believe or not believe.

Where in the world have you seen or heard of container tops being remotely flipped open and releasing swarms of drones (already lethally armed of course) with enough power to decimate a large proportion of the enemy's aircraft if not science fiction at its best?

Not even the mighty military departments of the USA possess or have even heard of such devices (flip top containers) and the drones shown in photos are incapable of conducting strikes of such devastating magnitude but more so inclined to be used for surveillance purposes.

Are these the same type of drones used to take out individuals like Solimani or those used by the IDF in targeting high profile Hamas/Hezbollah individuals riding in their cars or conducting a meeting in a building in the city center; similar to the US one recently shot down or crash-landed in Yemen?

No, I don't believe they are one and the same.

The detailed figures regurgitated by ME are also questionable in that someone (media or Ukraine Defense Authorities) were able to provide such figures with such accuracy with a full blown war going on.

Yet the gullible percentage of the public swallows all the reports hook, line and sinker!

So how did Ukraine achieve what it has? Plenty of satellite images on the web showing damaged or burnt out Russian planes, from the whole spectrum of news sites. Are these faked?

If not how did planes thousands of miles from Ukraine get hit, and so many of them?

https://www.newsweek.com/befor...-devastation-2080973

Herein there has been much discussion of media bias, slant, messaging, and propaganda, and unreliability in deciphering reality and truth in general.

I think most if not all of us believe that freedom of the press is a core principle. But some believe those in the press business are not ethical or acting in good faith, and can't be trusted. That's polarized too, hence Fox News is making lots of money, despite obvious slant, bias and lying.

I think it's on us to sort it out and quit blaming the press. IMO, it's pretty easy to find and know reliable sources. One way is to see which sources are attacked by Trumpism, and which vets his anointments.

This topic could fit into many discussions herein, but I choose this thread because of the following news video.

The tone and pace and straightforwardness is something we, at least I, are not used to. English is not their first language for one thing, which affects the acceptance and perception re truth, IMO.

Usually I automatically shun videos with headlines in all caps, and buzzclick words. And this video apparently has a whatsapp link, which is worrisome but avoidable. Youtube is good about screening out external second tier harmful links.

So, if you can get past that, as I did, and listen to how they present the narrative backed with facts, how does this come across to you in the context described above?

Another thought - can you imagine the narratives, messaging, etc. on Russian press?

https://youtu.be/qzihB3b-adA?si=GzSfrCOLA9yc59RT

A CATASTROPHE IN THE CRIMEA: UKRAINE STRIKES UNEXPECTEDLY | Ukraine Today

Ukraine hits the mark again: the explosion on the Crimean bridge is another successful SBU operation! Meanwhile, in Crimea itself, a farce: officials are being punished for refusing to like the mayor's posts. At the front, the situation is escalating - Russian troops are advancing on Sumy region. At the same time, the UK is preparing a lawsuit against Abramovich, demanding compensation for Chelsea in favor of Ukraine. Large-scale zombification of schoolchildren continues in Russia, and a round of important negotiations has ended in Istanbul. And while Europe is protesting, a wax statue of Macron was stolen in Paris and used in a demonstration against trade with Russia. We will tell you all the details right now!

With satellite imagery the claims are simple to verify. So a bridge getting destroyed is easy to check, as to how it was destroyed ...

Some evidently believe that all news outlets get together to agree on the how and then publish accordingly

Putins much lauded war ending missile, the Oreshnik, just went off course and blew up over Kazakstan it seems.

Take that Ukraine!

I wonder how many they have? Right now its at 50% failure rate.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...UPK?ocid=socialshare

Russia hits back with nuke-ready hypersonic missile strike on Ukraine after drone attack
Story by Carrington Walker, Brigid Brown • 48m •
2 min read

Does this look like military targets or civilian?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...I1B?ocid=socialshare

CCTV appears to show moment Ukraine's Kharkiv is hit by Russian attack
Multiple explosions rocked Ukraine's Kharkiv on Thursday night (June 5) when Russia attacked the city with several drones. CCTV footage released by Kharkiv's mayor Ihor Terekhov appeared to show the moment of a Russian assault on the northeastern city. Reuters was able to confirm the location of the video as Kharkiv from the buildings, the trees and the street layout, which matched satellite imagery of the area. The date when the video was recorded was verified by the timestamp on the CCTV footage.

I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

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Originally posted by JTEX:
I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

Never forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

What REAL EVIL people did to humanity!

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Originally posted by JTEX:
I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

Hes wasting 1400 a day in his meat assaults. While the Ukrainians slowly give ground and protect their lives.
And I think its a real concern that even if Ukraine gives up, Putin will usher in a genocide anyway.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:
I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

Never forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

What REAL EVIL people did to humanity!

Nah, that saved a bunch of lives and ended the war. The Japanese would have fought a conventional war to the last soldier standing. Then we helped rebuild, not only Japan but Europe as well.

How goes your tragedy in Sudan? Who is winning, the Saudis or the Emiratis? We know its not the Sudanese.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:
I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

Hes wasting 1400 a day in his meat assaults. While the Ukrainians slowly give ground and protect their lives.
And I think its a real concern that even if Ukraine gives up, Putin will usher in a genocide anyway.

And absolutely no mention of the GENOCIDE being visited onto the Palestinians!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by shankspony:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:
I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

Hes wasting 1400 a day in his meat assaults. While the Ukrainians slowly give ground and protect their lives.
And I think its a real concern that even if Ukraine gives up, Putin will usher in a genocide anyway.

And absolutely no mention of the GENOCIDE being visited onto the Palestinians!

Or the Sudanese!

Outrage, it's where you find it these days I guess.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:
I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

Never forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

What REAL EVIL people did to humanity!

Never!!!!

Those two bombs saved a lot of lives!


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It is my humble opinion that Zelensky is a world class hero.

As I remember, he was a comedian and actor. It's amazing how someone can rise to the call.

https://youtube.com/shorts/jcL...?si=ByeWUtsqsubpDIwM

Almost 250,000 Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine war, Zelensky says

https://youtube.com/shorts/RUt...?si=Kz9XeBKr_48Y2z6Z

Zelensky says Chinese soldiers were captured on Ukrainian territory

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As I remember, he was a comedian and actor. It's amazing how someone can rise to the call.

He must have taken cue from Silvio Berlusconi.

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Silvio Berlusconi

False equivalence, or not comparable!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi

Search on: why did zelensky run for president

Results: https://www.google.com/search?...yAck&sclient=gws-wiz

Search on: Is Zelensky wealthy

Results: https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

https://youtube.com/shorts/vQf...?si=wUYHf9m_tloo_BWe

Zelenskyy says two Chinese soldiers caught fighting for Russia
SBS is an Australian public broadcast service.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:
I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

Hes wasting 1400 a day in his meat assaults. While the Ukrainians slowly give ground and protect their lives.
And I think its a real concern that even if Ukraine gives up, Putin will usher in a genocide anyway.

And absolutely no mention of the GENOCIDE being visited onto the Palestinians!

For me personally. The situation in Israel is too complex and mixed up for me to really comment. I would definitely be more concerned if it wasn't for Hamas showing absolute disdain and disregard for the Palestinians and using them in such horrific ways. Im very uncomfortable with what I see reported of Israels response But I do not have a solution that seems reasonable, Given how Hamas will behave.
With Ukraine it's simple. Russia just needs to get out and go back too its borders, and it will all stop.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:
I'm very happy that Ukraine,is doing well.....but I'm afraid Vlad has many more lives to waste than Ukraine does. Damn his evil soul!

Never forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

What REAL EVIL people did to humanity!

Never!!!!

Those two bombs saved a lot of lives!


.

Exactly. lets not forget on projected casualties of a land invasion of Japan, those bombs saved over a million Japanese lives alone.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

With Ukraine it's simple. Russia just needs to get out and go back too its borders, and it will all stop.

I think it is not that simple.

The first step is for Russia to get out of Ukraine and respect the national borders. But it doesn't stop there.

There's war crimes and restoration. Russia and especially Putin personally should have to pay for it all.

Russia has been forcibly removing kids from their parents, requiring those in the occupied zones to apply for Russian passports if the want to access public services and persecuting any visible expression of Ukrainian identity.

Sadly I don’t think he will ever be held accountable.

There must come a point at which the pain is to great as it did in Afghanistan for them, but they have lost magnitudes more in Ukraine than they did in Afghanistan and no sign of it yet. Of course if you are wealthy or hold a governmental position in Russia your kids get and easy ride on the off chance they find themselves in uniform.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:

With Ukraine it's simple. Russia just needs to get out and go back too its borders, and it will all stop.

I think it is not that simple.

The first step is for Russia to get out of Ukraine and respect the national borders. But it doesn't stop there.

There's war crimes and restoration. Russia and especially Putin personally should have to pay for it all.

Im just talking about the conflict itself. What happens after will depend on much. Like who ends up ruling Russia. But yeah there is a good chance those responsible will go unpunished.

I saw an opinion article lately claiming that Russia/Putin has already defeated Ukraine and NATO.

I read part of it, but didn't post the link.

It is possible/probable. The consequences would be horrific.

https://youtu.be/ci8czrlkdhI?si=6gtgX0heBPvn9tnW

Russia launches 'most powerful attack since start of war' on Kharkiv, says city's mayor | DW News

Wikipedia:
Deutsche Welle (pronounced [ˈdɔʏtʃə ˈvɛlə] ⓘ; "German Wave"), commonly shortened to DW (pronounced [deːˈveː]), is a German state-funded television network, state-owned[1] international broadcaster funded by the Federal Government of Germany.[3]

65,304 views Jun 7, 2025 #kharkiv #ukrainewar #russianinvasion
Ukraine says Russia launched more than 200 missiles and drones in one of the biggest air attacks in recent weeks. Less than half were intercepted.

Russian strikes killed at least three people and injured more than 20 in Kharkiv.
Dozens of homes were damaged in the most extensive strike on the city since the start of the war.

Trump is helping Putin win.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...N6n?ocid=socialshare

Trump administration redirects 20,000 anti-drone missiles meant for Ukraine, Zelensky confirms
Story by Tim Zadorozhnyy • 4h •
2 min read

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Originally posted by nute:
Russia has been forcibly removing kids from their parents, requiring those in the occupied zones to apply for Russian passports if the want to access public services and persecuting any visible expression of Ukrainian identity.

Sadly I don’t think he will ever be held accountable.

There must come a point at which the pain is to great as it did in Afghanistan for them, but they have lost magnitudes more in Ukraine than they did in Afghanistan and no sign of it yet. Of course if you are wealthy or hold a governmental position in Russia your kids get and easy ride on the off chance they find themselves in uniform.

Afghans, as with the Vietnamese, do not seem to tolerate outsiders running their affairs.
Defeating the government does not compel allegiance. It will never be over.

Ukraine had holomodor in living memory, and I doubt they will humbly acquiesce to Russia.

Peter Zeihan explains the importance of the attack and the fact that no Allie has ever struck Russia with such positive outcomes for the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efG4a3dpFJg