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Calmes: Top 10 reason not to vote for Donald Trump

. . . laid out simply enough for even a potentially repentant, open-minded Trumplican to understand.

Calmes: Top 10 reasons not to vote for Donald Trump
Opinion by Jackie Calmes

The only challenge here was limiting myself to 10 arguments against Donald Trump (and one good reason to vote for Kamala Harris). So, drum roll, working toward No. 1:

10: As president, he violated his oath to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.”

Ask Mike Pence, who forfeited his place as Trump’s ticket mate to Ohio Sen. JD Vance because Pence wouldn’t violate the Constitution; Vance would. Even after leaving office, Trump called for terminating parts of it so he could regain power. No one should think he’d keep the oath if given a second chance, especially when the Supreme Court that he packed has ruled that presidents are virtually immune from prosecution.

9: He still won’t say that he’ll accept the voters’ verdict.

And that is still unprecedented. Trump has gravely eroded Americans’ faith in the elections that are fundamental to democracy. He lied after his 2016 victory in the electoral college that he lost the popular vote only because up to 5 million people voted illegally for Hillary Clinton. His efforts to flip his 2020 loss to Joe Biden got him criminally indicted, another first.

8: He will be held accountable for his alleged crimes as president only if he is defeated.

If reelected, Trump can order “his” Justice Department to bury the two federal cases that he succeeded in delaying past the election — the Washington trial for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election, and the case in Florida for allegedly making off with and hiding top government secrets. A third case in Georgia, state charges for attempting to subvert its 2020 vote for Biden, could well be shelved if he were back in office.

7: He’d be the first president with a serious rap sheet.

Trump has been found guilty or liable for sexual abuse, defamation, civil financial fraud and criminal business fraud to conceal a tryst with a porn star. He’s also the first president to be impeached twice, justifiably. Character counts: Voters should not hire for president someone who wouldn’t be hired by any private employer in the land.

6: He’s unfit to be president.

Take it from scores of former top advisors, including nearly half of the 42 people who served in Trump’s Cabinet. The early Cabinet members he once called “my generals”? James N. Mattis, H.R. McMaster and John F. Kelly all broke with their former commander in chief. Even those who back Trump have damned him: Former Atty. Gen. William Barr said Trump “shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office” and former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley called him “unhinged.” Let those two shape-shifters put party over country to vote for Trump. Voters shouldn’t.

5: He’s a threat to national security.

Trump is “the most dangerous person to this country,” Mark A. Milley, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, says in Bob Woodward’s new book. He’s more likely to be seduced by murderous autocrats than stand up to them. He’s poised to appease war criminal Vladimir Putin and reward Russia’s lawless invasion by abandoning Ukraine. Woodward reports that Trump has had seven calls with Putin since leaving office, suggesting a treacherous willingness to undermine allies’ support for Ukraine, Europe’s security and U.S. alliances generally. He encouraged Russia to do “whatever the hell they want” to NATO members who miss defense spending targets. As Foreign Affairs reported: “His first term tested the transatlantic relationship — but his second would break it.”

4: He doesn’t know or care how to constructively address the nation’s problems.

The most policy-ignorant candidate in memory, Trump turned to the extremists behind Project 2025 for a blueprint, though he denies it now. Deal maker? He lacks the attention span, grasp of details and spirit of compromise to enact bipartisan laws. In a Wall Street Journal survey, most economists predicted that inflation, interest rates and deficits would be much higher under his proposed tax cuts and tariffs than under Harris’ policies. (And, no, Trump’s tariffs wouldn’t cut child-care costs.) He had Republicans kill an immigration bill to keep the issue alive for his demagogic campaign. His solution: “bloody” deportations of millions of migrants.

3: He’d further pack the federal courts with right-wing ideologues.

To confirm his picks, Trump would be helped, again, by what is expected to be a Republican-majority Senate. Again, he’d choose young nominees to serve for decades: “You don't put old in, because they're there for two years or three years,” he said last week. The Supreme Court’s far-right justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr., would likely retire so Trump could seat much-younger, like-minded replacements.

2. He’s a pathological liar.

Trump’s constant lies range from the relatively harmless to life-threatening. Residents of Springfield, Ohio, endured school and hospital closures amid bomb threats after Trump lied that Haitian migrants would eat their pets. Federal hurricane responders in the South were threatened after Trump lied about the Biden administration rescue effort. Local governments are spending tax dollars to protect nonpartisan election workers. Americans prominent and obscure have been forced to get security against death threats after Trump’s mendacious attacks. But more prosaically: Citizens should expect truth from their presidents.

1. He was not, and would not be, a president for all Americans.

Not MAGA? Not worthy. Trump talks of withholding disaster aid from blue states. He assails Democrats, other domestic critics and the free press as “the enemy within,” subject to possible military action.

Finally, the bonus, a positive reason to vote Harris. She’s not only among the most experienced applicants for the job ever, but also: She’s not Trump.


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Come on Mike..HER "experiecnce" , according to history, was in the back seat with Willie Brown.

Even brain dead Dems have to admit... she did not get ONE SINGLE primary vote. If Dems don't want her, should be a flash bulb to the rest of the
LEGAL voters

The USA NEEDS Trump as president. Kamala MUST go dowsn in flames if only punishment for the damage she already caused
 
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10 through7, along with no. 2, are absolutely valid. Unfortunately, the list loses credibility with the last statement, regarding Harris. Most experienced ever? C'mon man. The final sentence describes her only attribute, but her liberalism might cancel it out. Republicans were stupid to nominate Trump, Democrats countered by nominating Harris. The only hope is that the winner won't screw things up too badly in four years. Neither party deserves to survive. Bill
 
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I would never waste my time defending Harris . . . the last three words are all that really matters.


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When part of your platform is electing justices to overturn protections for all of us like marriage equality, the last point is valid.
 
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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Come on Mike..HER "experience" , according to history, was in the back seat with Willie Brown.

Even brain dead Dems have to admit... she did not get ONE SINGLE primary vote. If Dems don't want her, should be a flash bulb to the rest of the
LEGAL voters

The USA NEEDS Trump as president. Kamala MUST go dowsn in flames if only punishment for the damage she already caused


I'll guess she's held bigger hands than those of Donald Trump, no shit.

Still, would Willie Brown spend his time with a dimbulb loser...?
I'd guess he saw something there, right or wrong.

Finally, back to Hunter Thompson. As long as we are willing to vote for the lesser of two evils, the evils will get worse.


TomP

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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Come on Mike..HER "experience" , according to history, was in the back seat with Willie Brown.

Even brain dead Dems have to admit... she did not get ONE SINGLE primary vote. If Dems don't want her, should be a flash bulb to the rest of the
LEGAL voters

The USA NEEDS Trump as president. Kamala MUST go dowsn in flames if only punishment for the damage she already caused


She's held bigger hands than those of Donald Trump, no shit.

Still, would Willie Brown spend his time with a dimbulb loser...?
I'd guess he saw something there, right or wrong.

Finally, back to Hunter Thompson. As long as we are willing to vote for the lesser of two evils, the evils will get worse.


And Willie Brown didn't elect her District Attorney, or Attorney General, or Senator, or Vice President. She got the only votes that matter for the nomination, those of the Delegates at the Convention, and trying to use an affair 30 years ago against her while ignoring the porn star Trump was raw-dogging while his wife was nursing his newborn son is the definition of desperate.

The Prosecutor or the Felon is our choice.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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Ditto, that's why she was known as "Cum-a-lot" Kamala.
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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
Come on Mike..HER "experiecnce" , according to history, was in the back seat with Willie Brown.

Even brain dead Dems have to admit... she did not get ONE SINGLE primary vote. If Dems don't want her, should be a flash bulb to the rest of the
LEGAL voters

The USA NEEDS Trump as president. Kamala MUST go dowsn in flames if only punishment for the damage she already caused
 
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Curious, do you feel the same way about promiscuity when it involves a male? Is the hypocrisy completely lost on you when you criticize Harris for promiscuity but give a serial philanderer and adulterer like Trump a pass?


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Curious, do you feel the same way about promiscuity when it involves a male? Is the hypocrisy completely lost on you when you criticize Harris for promiscuity but give a serial philanderer and adulterer like Trump a pass?


Silly rabbit, morals only apply to Democrats, anything the Orange Jesus does, including sexual assault, is just peachy.


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I’m not sure how any reasonable human being can vote for a presidential duo that advocates that men can be women and vice versa and elective abortions until delivery is health care.

Not being Trump is just an excuse to admit who K and T are.


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I don’t give Trump a pass.

He’s got the morals of an alley cat.

But you not seeing the difference between being a cad and using sex to advance yourself is telling.

The Dems could have come up with a lot better candidate in all aspects… and given it was a brokered convention deal as opposed to a voted on primary contest with debates and choices, and given her performance in the last primary she ran, one has to admit she wasn’t the best the democrats have.

Bill the cat is still leading in my personal poll.
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Curious, do you feel the same way about promiscuity when it involves a male? Is the hypocrisy completely lost on you when you criticize Harris for promiscuity but give a serial philanderer and adulterer like Trump a pass?
 
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The appeal of Harris to some despite her many failings should come as no surprise when one considers who her opponent is. See List Above.


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I’m not sure how any reasonable human being can vote for a presidential duo that advocates that men can be women and vice versa and elective abortions until delivery is health care.

Not being Trump is just an excuse to admit who K and T are.


But you're fine with one who says if you're famous you can just grab women by the pussy.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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Because it has nothing to do w me.
 
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I don’t give Trump a pass.

He’s got the morals of an alley cat.

But you not seeing the difference between being a cad and using sex to advance yourself is telling.

The Dems could have come up with a lot better candidate in all aspects… and given it was a brokered convention deal as opposed to a voted on primary contest with debates and choices, and given her performance in the last primary she ran, one has to admit she wasn’t the best the democrats have.

Bill the cat is still leading in my personal poll.
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Curious, do you feel the same way about promiscuity when it involves a male? Is the hypocrisy completely lost on you when you criticize Harris for promiscuity but give a serial philanderer and adulterer like Trump a pass?


Trump assaulted women in violation of law and their personal agency.

VP Harris having sex w consenting adult is stupid for anyone to bring up.

Anyone who thinks her sex luxe with consenting adults is disqualifying, is someone I do not want to associate with.
 
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I don’t give Trump a pass.

He’s got the morals of an alley cat.

But you not seeing the difference between being a cad and using sex to advance yourself is telling.

The Dems could have come up with a lot better candidate in all aspects… and given it was a brokered convention deal as opposed to a voted on primary contest with debates and choices, and given her performance in the last primary she ran, one has to admit she wasn’t the best the democrats have.

Bill the cat is still leading in my personal poll.
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Curious, do you feel the same way about promiscuity when it involves a male? Is the hypocrisy completely lost on you when you criticize Harris for promiscuity but give a serial philanderer and adulterer like Trump a pass?


The sitting Vice President is traditionally positioned as the successor to a President who does not seek re-election, or the next election if they lose. Perhaps you've heard of such obscure figures as John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, or, more recently, Richard Nixon, Hubert Humphrey, George H.W. Bush, Al Gore and Joe Biden.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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I’m not sure how any reasonable human being can vote for a presidential duo that advocates that men can be women and vice versa and elective abortions until delivery is health care.

Not being Trump is just an excuse to admit who K and T are.


I think you make the assumption that Trump is opposed to your above, I certainly don't feel that reassurance.

Doc Butler refers to Trump as an Alley Cat, I have a similar impression.

Arnold Palmers private parts? Confused

If hope after all this time we all could agree that Trump can't be taken at his word. Theres just no trusting what he says. I believe that and so if trump claims to be pro gun/ hunting, anti abortion, anti Putin, or any other common political topic I am very skeptical.

How do we trust an Alley Cat with any moral, ethical social or cultural leadership? I do not.
 
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...more to the point why would you want a president that Americas enemies can manipulate so easily.
 
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I don’t give Trump a pass.

He’s got the morals of an alley cat.

But you not seeing the difference between being a cad and using sex to advance yourself is telling.

The Dems could have come up with a lot better candidate in all aspects… and given it was a brokered convention deal as opposed to a voted on primary contest with debates and choices, and given her performance in the last primary she ran, one has to admit she wasn’t the best the democrats have.

Bill the cat is still leading in my personal poll.
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Curious, do you feel the same way about promiscuity when it involves a male? Is the hypocrisy completely lost on you when you criticize Harris for promiscuity but give a serial philanderer and adulterer like Trump a pass?



Do you have anything beyond Fox News innuendo to support your claim that Harris used sex to advance herself? No?

I didn't think so. I'm afraid you have the so-called "whore/madonna" complex; you apply a double-standard to women, based on their sexual activity. Women who engage are whores, while those who don't are madonnas. Men aren't judged this way.

As for your claim that the Dems could have found a better candidate...who are you talking about? Name names, please.

I don't like some of Harris's policy positions. I disagree with her wish to ban ARs. I think her proposal to give first-time home-buyers $25,000 would only inflate the price of homes, in the same way that freely-available college loans have caused soaring inflation of college costs.

But I can't think of a better candidate.
 
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I don't like some of Harris's policy positions. I disagree with her wish to ban ARs. I think her proposal to give first-time home-buyers $25,000 would only inflate the price of homes, in the same way that freely-available college loans have caused soaring inflation of college costs.


I didn't like trump giving a TRILLION dollar tax cut to the wealthiest, either. Which cost more money & which benefits the most people?
 
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I don't like some of Harris's policy positions. I disagree with her wish to ban ARs. I think her proposal to give first-time home-buyers $25,000 would only inflate the price of homes, in the same way that freely-available college loans have caused soaring inflation of college costs.


I didn't like trump giving a TRILLION dollar tax cut to the wealthiest, either. Which cost more money & which benefits the most people?


Benefits people? If they can't drop at least a million into some shady SuperPAC they don't deserve "benefits"!


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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Come on Mike..HER "experiecnce" , according to history, was in the back seat with Willie Brown.

Even brain dead Dems have to admit... she did not get ONE SINGLE primary vote. If Dems don't want her, should be a flash bulb to the rest of the
LEGAL voters

The USA NEEDS Trump as president. Kamala MUST go dowsn in flames if only punishment for the damage she already caused


And, trump brags about grabbing women by their privates and screwed porn stars while his wife was taking care of his infant son.

News flash: you dimwit trumptards do not occupy the moral high ground here.

You support an amoral seditionist shitbird.


-Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good.

 
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