So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

You mean the shooter that was on the grassy knoll?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

You mean the shooter that was on the grassy knoll?

Mike -

There is room to investigate the entire event. Are you 100% positive there was only one guy? And he acted alone?

I don't know because we are only fed what the Feds and the Media want us to know.

Where's the proof as you Litigators like to ask?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

You mean the shooter that was on the grassy knoll?

Come on Jack!!


You know not was the Cigarette Smoking Man from the storm sewer.

She should have been fired that Saturday evening. Glad she is gone.

She's gone so the secret about this being a staged event can be kept out of the hearings.

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Originally posted by 300shooter:
She's gone so the secret about this being a staged event can be kept out of the hearings.

Are you really that stupid?

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

You mean the shooter that was on the grassy knoll?

Mike -

There is room to investigate the entire event. Are you 100% positive there was only one guy? And he acted alone?

I don't know because we are only fed what the Feds and the Media want us to know.

Where's the proof as you Litigators like to ask?

Of course there should be a full investigation and I am sure there will be. And, yes, I am equally certain that this deluded crazy kid acted alone. Have you seen one speck of evidence that indicates otherwise?

My comment was directed to the OP, which seems to contemplate a conspiracy when there is zero evidence to support any such thing.

Finally, I guess I'll direct your last comment back at you? Where's the proof of a conspiracy? Shit, were is there one iota of evidence or a fact that supports that assertion?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

You mean the shooter that was on the grassy knoll?

Mike -

There is room to investigate the entire event. Are you 100% positive there was only one guy? And he acted alone?

I don't know because we are only fed what the Feds and the Media want us to know.

Where's the proof as you Litigators like to ask?

Of course there should be a full investigation and I am sure there will be. And, yes, I am equally certain that this deluded crazy kid acted alone. Have you seen one speck of evidence that indicates otherwise?

My comment was directed to the OP, which seems to contemplate a conspiracy when there is zero evidence to support any such thing.

Finally, I guess I'll direct your last comment back at you? Where's the proof of a conspiracy? Shit, were is there one iota of evidence or a fact that supports that assertion?

This I will agree with you on.

Not a single iota of a conspiracy but the nutters WANT there to be one they are weaving whole cloth conspiracies out of thin air.

When it all shakes out I think you are simply going to find massive ineptitude combined with indifference due to who the protected was.

We need to stop assigning f to conspiracy what we can explain by stupid.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by 300shooter:
She's gone so the secret about this being a staged event can be kept out of the hearings.

Are you really that stupid?

Yes, I believe he is....

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My comment was directed to the OP, which seems to contemplate a conspiracy when there is zero evidence to support any such thing.

What conspiracy? I asked if she was going to get out of testifying (referring to the assassination attempt) since she quit.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

That is a good question.

The murder and would be assassin is dead. Thus, there is not an investigation that could prevent her.

The Chief Executive (President) could always invoke privilege.

She resigned in the face of a serious impeachment movement that even House Dems would not come to her side in.

My guess is the House lets her go.

Certainly, they could subpoena her again.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

That is a good question.

The murder and wound be assassin is dead. Thus, there is not an investigation that could prevent her.

The Chief Executive (President) could always invoke privilege.

She resigned in the face of a series impeachment movement that even House Dems would not come to her side in.

My guess is the House lets her go.

Certainly, they could subpoena her again.

So who will be responsible for reporting to the people as to the failures and why they happened? We should know.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

That is a good question.

The murder and wound be assassin is dead. Thus, there is not an investigation that could prevent her.

The Chief Executive (President) could always invoke privilege.

She resigned in the face of a series impeachment movement that even House Dems would not come to her side in.

My guess is the House lets her go.

Certainly, they could subpoena her again.

So who will be responsible for reporting to the people as to the failures and why they happened? We should know.

I do not disagree with you on that. Personally, I know what happened. The SS delegated a task without any oversight for no good reason, and did not secure the area. Did not appropriately respond to reports of the shooter. The result is a major presidential cabinet almost got killed. A man was murdered. Two more are still fighting for their lives and will never be the same assuming they survive.


She deserved to be impeached, fired, or resign.

Personally, my position is President Biden should have fired her the next day.

Technically, the responsibility you speak of falls on Congress.

My bet is that it will
Be dumped on some ooor hapless u feeling whose life will be ruined over it.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

That is a good question.

The murder and wound be assassin is dead. Thus, there is not an investigation that could prevent her.

The Chief Executive (President) could always invoke privilege.

She resigned in the face of a series impeachment movement that even House Dems would not come to her side in.

My guess is the House lets her go.

Certainly, they could subpoena her again.

So who will be responsible for reporting to the people as to the failures and why they happened? We should know.

Her replacement or one of the dozen investigating committees.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

You mean the shooter that was on the grassy knoll?

Mike -

There is room to investigate the entire event. Are you 100% positive there was only one guy? And he acted alone?

I don't know because we are only fed what the Feds and the Media want us to know.

Where's the proof as you Litigators like to ask?

All 8 shots were fired by Crooks. There is no conspiracy unless it was within the SS itself. Then again you wonder if he was allowed to fire that many times.

I watched as MTG questioned her. MTG repeatedly referred to "President Trump" getting "shot in the face". I was not aware that he was shot in the face. Instead, his ear was grazed by a bullet (still a serious occurrence, to be sure). Her insistence that he was "shot in the face", pretty well destroys any credibility she might have had. Politicians are so stupid. Regards, Bill.

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Here^^^is the attitude that progressives have and the reason for the apathy exhibited by the SS in their job of protecting DJT.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
I watched as MTG questioned her. MTG repeatedly referred to "President Trump" getting "shot in the face". I was not aware that he was shot in the face. Instead, his ear was grazed by a bullet (still a serious occurrence, to be sure). Her insistence that he was "shot in the face", pretty well destroys any credibility she might have had. Politicians are so stupid. Regards, Bill.

While I agree with your point Bill. The ear is considered anatomically to be a part of the face by most plastic surgeons. Thus she was within the margin of error of correctness.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

You mean the shooter that was on the grassy knoll?

Mike -

There is room to investigate the entire event. Are you 100% positive there was only one guy? And he acted alone?

I don't know because we are only fed what the Feds and the Media want us to know.

Where's the proof as you Litigators like to ask?

Of course there should be a full investigation and I am sure there will be. And, yes, I am equally certain that this deluded crazy kid acted alone. Have you seen one speck of evidence that indicates otherwise?

My comment was directed to the OP, which seems to contemplate a conspiracy when there is zero evidence to support any such thing.

Finally, I guess I'll direct your last comment back at you? Where's the proof of a conspiracy? Shit, were is there one iota of evidence or a fact that supports that assertion?

Mike -

These comments refer to "acting alone"

The only proof I can offer would be a cascading list of screw ups that seem to all occur at the right place, at the right time.

I'd guess calculating the odds of a lone 20 year old, getting access to the only unprotected roof-top at this event, getting off 5-8 shots before being neutralized, are staggering, at best.

To add to the list;

SS WAS on the roof and left because it was too hot.

Several snipers saw Crooks and didn't engage.

He was listed as suspicious, yet not a threat.

And the largest screw-up of all, Trump was still allowed to take the stage, and not even warned of a suspicious character in the crowd.

I think most guys in this sub-forum are pretty cerebral. How many crowd videos and people pointing and yelling there was a guy with a gun on the roof? Yet nobody gets Trump, off the stage?

At some point the curcumstantial evidence just raises tremendous levels of doubt that the SS could be that incompetent.

Occams Razor....

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
I watched as MTG questioned her. MTG repeatedly referred to "President Trump" getting "shot in the face". I was not aware that he was shot in the face. Instead, his ear was grazed by a bullet (still a serious occurrence, to be sure). Her insistence that he was "shot in the face", pretty well destroys any credibility she might have had. Politicians are so stupid. Regards, Bill.

MTG looks like somebody shot her in the face.

Regarding the OP, the resignation in no way relieves her of her obligation to testify in congressional or judicial hearings. She can refuse to do so voluntarily but I doubt any court would quash a lawful subpoena properly served on her. She is what is called a person with knowledge of relevant facts.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So can she now refuse to testify concerning the assassination attempt?

You mean the shooter that was on the grassy knoll?

Mike -

There is room to investigate the entire event. Are you 100% positive there was only one guy? And he acted alone?

I don't know because we are only fed what the Feds and the Media want us to know.

Where's the proof as you Litigators like to ask?

Of course there should be a full investigation and I am sure there will be. And, yes, I am equally certain that this deluded crazy kid acted alone. Have you seen one speck of evidence that indicates otherwise?

My comment was directed to the OP, which seems to contemplate a conspiracy when there is zero evidence to support any such thing.

Finally, I guess I'll direct your last comment back at you? Where's the proof of a conspiracy? Shit, were is there one iota of evidence or a fact that supports that assertion?

Mike -

The only proof I can offer would be a cascading list of screw ups that seem to all occur at the right place, at the right time.

I'd guess calculating the odds of a lone 20 year old, getting access to the only unprotected roof-top at this event, getting off 5-8 shots before being neutralized, are staggering, at best.

To add to the list;

SS WAS on the roof and left because it was too hot.

Several snipers saw Crooks and didn't engage.

He was listed as suspicious, yet not a threat.

And the largest screw-up of all, Trump was still allowed to take the stage, and not even warned of a suspicious character in the crowd.

I think most guys in this sub-forum are pretty cerebral. How many crowd videos and people pointing and yelling there was a guy with a gun on the roof? Yet nobody gets Trump, off the stage?

At some point the curcumstantial evidence just raises tremendous levels of doubt that the SS could be that incompetent.

Occams Razor....

Well, mistakes, incompetence and/or negligence is one thing...a conspiracy is something else entirely.

I've spent almost 40 years working on lawsuits where people, companies, cops, etc. do incredibly stupid shit that results in other people getting hurt or killed. It can be easy to second-guess once the event has occurred.

For instance, do we know yet who picked the venue? Why would you be having a campaign event in the middle of an open field with elevated structures nearby? Or, even without elevated structures? Did anybody ask the Secret Service about the propriety of the location? My understanding is that the SS is told where the event is going to occur and then typically have a few days, or less, to do everything possible to secure the area.

Regarding why wasn't trump warned about a suspicious person? I'm guessing there are always suspicious persons at large campaign events. What should they have told trump? "We saw a guy with a back pack?" Now, I will grant you that if it is correct that he was observed lazing the distance from the building, something should have been done. He should have been confronted and taken into custody immediately. But, I don't know if that reporting is correct. And, I don't know if that was the SS or local cops. Either way, that was a serious mistake.

When you have a person who is determined to take a shot at a political figure, or anybody else, it can be a very difficult job to prevent it.

Again, I don't know the particulars...and neither does anybody else at this point. It seems to me that the smart play going forward is to stop having campaign events in open spaces.....kind of like how they don't let the POTUS be driven around in an open convertible since Nov. 22, 1963.

His close protection detail were a bunch of stumble fucks to put it kindly.

Forget the disaster of letting him on state or the cluster flop getting him to the vehicle


Fumblina couldn’t get her service weapon holsters.

Look at the other female agents on the right side of the suburban. They are fumbling around trying to get thee SUNGLASSES on and not watching g their assigned sectors for additional threats.


Cheadle should not have been allowed to resign. She should have been fired and it should have been announced publicly preferably by Biden or Myorkas.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
I watched as MTG questioned her. MTG repeatedly referred to "President Trump" getting "shot in the face". I was not aware that he was shot in the face. Instead, his ear was grazed by a bullet (still a serious occurrence, to be sure). Her insistence that he was "shot in the face", pretty well destroys any credibility she might have had. Politicians are so stupid. Regards, Bill.

While I agree with your point Bill. The ear is considered anatomically to be a part of the face by most plastic surgeons. Thus she was within the margin of error of correctness.

Next time I get a piece carved off of my ear, I'll mention to the doc to be careful with my face. The truth is, MTG is, and always has been, a dumb shit. Regards, Bill

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
I watched as MTG questioned her. MTG repeatedly referred to "President Trump" getting "shot in the face". I was not aware that he was shot in the face. Instead, his ear was grazed by a bullet (still a serious occurrence, to be sure). Her insistence that he was "shot in the face", pretty well destroys any credibility she might have had. Politicians are so stupid. Regards, Bill.

While I agree with your point Bill. The ear is considered anatomically to be a part of the face by most plastic surgeons. Thus she was within the margin of error of correctness.

Next time I get a piece carved off of my ear, I'll mention to the doc to be careful with my face. The truth is, MTG is, and always has been, a dumb shit. Regards, Bill

Don’t disagree. Just saying the ear is in the caudal margin of the perimeter of the face. The statement was within the margin of error of correctness. She has stated many things which aren’t.