This is what I've been saying for a long time.

Affirmation? okay

You two are kooks!

All you do is make excuses for the failures of the left.....


Canuckistan is just thriving under the left....

And at least mangina,can compete on girls sports teams now....

Kinda like how Barry was the messiah huh?

Barry was never the messiah. That's made up BS from the right because you have no other way of dealing with it or understanding it.

It's a projection, and it's sick, and fundamentally the problem.

If there are people who think Trump is a messiah and religiously follow him, they are kooks.

If this PhD thinks through his vast experience (doubtful, given he's in DC with the number of conservative types there and "cognitive psychology researcher" implies no clinical activity...) that what folks say to him via comments and emails - much less discussion forums- that he has a clue what people believe and why, he's lost in his own bias.

The concept of predestination is an old one, religiously. If god is both omniscient and omnipotent, one could say he did whatever happens. Ask the same people if Hitler or Obama was an act of God, and they will have to admit that he was. A common lament in the concentration camps of the Nazis was "why would god do this?"

If you think Trump creates the things that scare these folks, you have a screw loose. Does he play up that he's the only one who can fix it? Sure. But then, so does Biden... the government was screwed up by Trump? You need me to fix it!

Now, if someone truly believes that Trump is a perfect tool for god to fix the country, they have some real issues that need addressing.

Compare the press Trump got to what Biden is getting. Trump doesn't hold press conferences and lets only hand picked "journalists" to ask him questions? The press was publicly howling about it (rightly). Biden is doing the same thing, and while some in the press are not happy, because he's their guy the criticism is very blunted- you see the complaints only rarely, instead of it being continual. If Biden or Harris make a misstatement its viewed as a misstatement... what happened when Trump walked something back?

Biden may not be quite as overtly narcissistic as Trump was, but he's certainly no where near as good as Obama, either Bush, or Clinton from recent times.

To some extent, things have polarized to the point where either side feels the need to totally ignore the other's desires and both sides are buying in to getting vengeance on their opponents.

Wrong. Blacks voted for Obama without a scintilla of reason other than his blackness. He was a junior senator. He had no record of note much less accomplishments to lean on. He was voted for merely based upon his skin color. If Obama said it then it must be so. That is messianic stuff.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Wrong. Blacks voted for Obama without a scintilla of reason other than his blackness. He was a junior senator. He had no record of note much less accomplishments to lean on. He was voted for merely based upon his skin color. If Obama said it then it must be so. That is messianic stuff.

So, Trump was elected because he is orange?

Or was it because of his experience on reality TV?

Or was it because he said what you wanted to hear?

This analysis is so painful to a loon, that they react…..well, read above.

It's all about personal ID protection.

The rationalizations are infinite. It's reality avoidance.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Wrong. Blacks voted for Obama without a scintilla of reason other than his blackness. He was a junior senator. He had no record of note much less accomplishments to lean on. He was voted for merely based upon his skin color. If Obama said it then it must be so. That is messianic stuff.

So, Trump was elected because he is orange?

Or was it because of his experience on reality TV?

Or was it because he said what you wanted to hear?

For purposes of discussion let's agree to stick with Obama for a moment. Show me how my assertions are false.

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Originally posted by bluefish:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Wrong. Blacks voted for Obama without a scintilla of reason other than his blackness. He was a junior senator. He had no record of note much less accomplishments to lean on. He was voted for merely based upon his skin color. If Obama said it then it must be so. That is messianic stuff.

So, Trump was elected because he is orange?

Or was it because of his experience on reality TV?

Or was it because he said what you wanted to hear?

For purposes of discussion let's agree to stick with Obama for a moment. Show me how my assertions are false.

You want the discussion to follow your diversion. Okay, I'll play along--briefly.

Sure, some blacks voted for Obama based on his skin color. Some whites voted for McCain and Romney because of their skin color. Your point is...? That some people are racially biased? News flash!

"He was voted for merely based upon his skin color." Nice touch. The passive construction can obscure so much. I don't know about most folks, but I didn't consider Obama's skin color important. I voted for him because he promised refreshing change from eight years of Republican war mongering.

Your conclusion that Obama was a messiah to people doesn't follow. Maybe you need to step away from affirmation bias and check your logic, counsellor.

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Show me how my assertions are false.

messiah???

Hummm.

First thing is to look up the literal meaning of the word.

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

If anyone meets the definition of "savior" it's Jesus or Trump, for the true believers.

Obama got elected because of GW BUSH. Obama just needed one word-CHANGE. It was badly needed.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Barry was never the messiah. That's made up BS from the right because you have no other way of dealing with it or understanding it.

It's a projection, and it's sick, and fundamentally the problem.

Just exactly like your projection on trump dumbass......


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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
It's all about personal ID protection.

The rationalizations are infinite. It's reality avoidance.

Exactly what you yourself do......silly old woman!

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Originally posted by carpetman1:
Obama got elected because of GW BUSH. Obama just needed one word-CHANGE. It was badly needed.

Absolutely!

Nice guy, means well, I like him a ton, but "W" was a horrible president for that moment in time. America has and will continue to suffer from "W"'s failed executive decisions for generations.

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If there are people who think Trump is a messiah and religiously follow him, they are kooks.

I can't believe you actually used the word "if".

Nothing more needs to be said...republicans are pathetic


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...0f7f95a5606113&ei=35

I really doubt 70% of republicans are behind Trump.

I think that's some artifact of polling.

Or I hope so.

This is the first time I have heard this one. I can't fathom any politician is the savior.

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Originally posted by JTEX:
You two are kooks!

All you do is make excuses for the failures of the left.....


Canuckistan is just thriving under the left....

And at least mangina,can compete on girls sports teams now....

And anyone supporting Trump has the brains of a flea!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
You two are kooks!

All you do is make excuses for the failures of the left.....


Canuckistan is just thriving under the left....

And at least mangina,can compete on girls sports teams now....

And anyone supporting Trump has the brains of a flea!

Trump isn't the ideal candidate, but if the choices in the general election are between Trump and any democrat, I'll vote for Trump.

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Originally posted by 788:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
You two are kooks!

All you do is make excuses for the failures of the left.....


Canuckistan is just thriving under the left....

And at least mangina,can compete on girls sports teams now....

And anyone supporting Trump has the brains of a flea!

Trump isn't the ideal candidate, but if the choices in the general election are between Trump and any democrat, I'll vote for Trump.

I'm the opposite. If Trump is the best you Republicans can offer, I'm going to vote for any Dem.

Why?

Why is there no half decent individual in either party who can actually try to bring the country back to normal??

Your politicians make Meghan look normal!

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Originally posted by carpetman1:
Obama got elected because of GW BUSH. Obama just needed one word-CHANGE. It was badly needed.

Too bad it was change for the worse…even sadder that the electorate didn’t see that coming.

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Canuckistan is just thriving under the left....

Yeah, the only things we’re seriously behind on are school shootings, mass murders and cops killing civilians. Oh, and wars. We’re way behind on invasions. We haven’t felt the need to invade anyone since 1812, and we hope you’ll accept our apology for that.

Otherwise, we’re a quite a ways ahead on life expectancy, health care, education and cost of living. Thank you for noticing. And again, we’re sorry about that 1812 thing. We told Billy Muktuk not to burn the White House down, but you know how those Eskimos get when they drink.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Why?

Why is there no half decent individual in either party who can actually try to bring the country back to normal??

Your politicians make Meghan look normal!

Ouch... That observation is so close to reality it hurts.

Lane--In my books it could not get worse than GWB. ANYTHING would be better.

Fine. Messianic complex is more apt for Obama and his legion of lefty supporters. No worse than GWB? Yes, Obama tore this country in two. Remember. Er his fundamental talent transformation of America? You're living it, pal.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Fine. Messianic complex is more apt for Obama and his legion of lefty supporters. No worse than GWB? Yes, Obama tore this country in two. Remember. Er his fundamental talent transformation of America? You're living it, pal.

I'll agree with that. You idiots got so upset that a black man had been elected POTUS that you decided to give us trump.

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Lane--In my books it could not get worse than GWB. ANYTHING would be better.

Then along came a spi——-I mean 0bummer.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Fine. Messianic complex is more apt for Obama and his legion of lefty supporters. No worse than GWB? Yes, Obama tore this country in two. Remember. Er his fundamental talent transformation of America? You're living it, pal.

I'll agree with that. You idiots got so upset that a black man had been elected POTUS that you decided to give us trump.

No kidding.

Obama didn't bring anything to the party, regarding division, that wasn't already there.

Trump made it clear---- regarding decency, at the least.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Fine. Messianic complex is more apt for Obama and his legion of lefty supporters. No worse than GWB? Yes, Obama tore this country in two. Remember. Er his fundamental talent transformation of America? You're living it, pal.

I'll agree with that. You idiots got so upset that a black man had been elected POTUS that you decided to give us trump.

No kidding.

The truth is finally out!

It was the truth all along.

The claim that Obama was a divisive POTUS is BS.

The divisiveness was intrinsic all along. He just stirred the hate that was already there, simply because of skin color. Trump showed us the Truth, and we all should be afraid.

Here's a guy with balls:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/vide...88d6a95d490295&ei=17

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
It was the truth all along.

The claim that Obama was a divisive POTUS is BS.

The divisiveness was intrinsic all along. He just stirred the hate that was already there, simply because of skin color.

If want to know what is BS…that^^^is BS.

0bama had nary policy goal that I could agree with. Not one! If you have one in which you adore…share it! I disliked him as POTUS because I despised ALL of his policy and he opened the door of National as never seen before.



As the graph reveals…0bama was the FIRST to not try to keep spending somewhat in line with revenue.

On top of that he turned racial tension in inner cities back to 1968 status. He took every opportunity to get out over his skis and prematurely come to the wrong decision on every racially tense occurrence that came along. 0bama is as much a racist as any one of us here. He had an opportunity because he was a black man and he failed.

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0bama had nary policy goal that I could agree with. Not one! If you have one in which you adore…share it! I disliked him as POTUS because I despised ALL of his policy and he opened the door of National as never seen before.

I like Obamacare. "Adore" is too strong a word because the legislation was flawed from the beginning. I'd hoped to see the program expanded, but instead the Republicans have gutted it.

I largely agreed with Obama's environmental policies.

As for your graph, Bush drove the car of the economy into the ditch with his double wars and bad policies (like tax cuts mainly for those of us who didn't need them). Then he handed the keys to Obama. The Great Recession hit in 2007 (Bush's last year), and Obama was left to clean up the mess his first year in office. The bill for the wars and tax cuts came due about the same time. Increased spending for government stimulus was called for by most economists. In fact, Obama did clean up the mess and the economy recovered, sooner than it might have otherwise.

Obama acted like an adult in international affairs. He didn't start any wars. He didn't suck up to our enemies.

I could find other examples.

As for racial issues, I didn't agree with Obama's words much of the time. But I recognize his perspective as a black man is very different from mine (or yours).

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
It was the truth all along.

The claim that Obama was a divisive POTUS is BS.

The divisiveness was intrinsic all along. He just stirred the hate that was already there, simply because of skin color.

If want to know what is BS…that^^^is BS.

0bama had nary policy goal that I could agree with. Not one! If you have one in which you adore…share it! I disliked him as POTUS because I despised ALL of his policy and he opened the door of National as never seen before.



As the graph reveals…0bama was the FIRST to not try to keep spending somewhat in line with revenue.

On top of that he turned racial tension in inner cities back to 1968 status. He took every opportunity to get out over his skis and prematurely come to the wrong decision on every racially tense occurrence that came along. 0bama is as much a racist as any one of us here. He had an opportunity because he was a black man and he failed.

It really is hard not to laugh at your hypocritical bullshit sometimes. trump increased the national debt by almost 8 trillion dollars. In 4 years.

And, you're ready to vote for him again.