How should Hyundai and South Korea respond?

07 September 2025, 20:32

Bill Leeper

It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

07 September 2025, 21:35

Saeed

The plant cost over a billion.

Kushner would head that way to get his paycheck

07 September 2025, 22:07

Thomas "Ty" Beaham

IF it comes to pass that none of the Hyundai employees were here illegally, Uncle Sam should get down on all fours and kiss Hyundai's rosy-red-ring, suffer the financial consequences in civil court, and the court of public opinion.
"Allied" consequences to U.S. are obvious.

IF prospective employees were hired after fraudulently presenting fake, forged, or stolen documents,
Hyundai is off the hook, the illegals get the boot, and management should take a closer look at their hiring practices.

IF Uncle Sam can prove that Hyundai KNEW they were hiring overstays, improperly documented or undocumented aliens, Hyundai should be fined and their doors shuttered.
"Allied" consequences to South Korea are obvious.

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07 September 2025, 22:43

jeffeosso

Am i the only posting here that has worked internationally and sent people to work internationally?

One can visit a country for business meetings , in some circumstances, without a visa, but to run a construction site or even a hands on inspection, requires a business or work visa (terms vary)

No clue as to the visa status of the involved, i expect the boots have better data. Seems like a paper tiger to resolve

07 September 2025, 22:56

Thomas "Ty" Beaham

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Am i the only posting here that has worked internationally...

No.

&

In my mind's eye this "issue" has ALWAYS (as in, for decades) been nothing more than a paper tiger.

But too many Americans profit or "save" off the backs of the illegal alien.
So goes today's selfish, unspoken rationalization of the status quo.

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08 September 2025, 00:54

medved

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

there is a chance we will get some new plants here in canada ...

08 September 2025, 01:27

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

there is a chance we will get some new plants here in canada ...

why? dude, do you grow your own supply? 10x the customer base in the US, without customs/tariffs - what are you smoking? oh, wait, your are still waiting for the magic pipelines and LNG ports .. let's check back in 2030 on the progress...

08 September 2025, 02:07

tomahawker

The US economy is THE economy everyone wants a slice of. It makes no difference who what when or where said or did what. If you sell something you to get it in the US market. End of story. Hyundai’s board of directors is well aware of this and probably issuing an apology as we speak. As is every other car manufacturer who would love a lil space for themselves. No one and I mean no one spends money like the US.

08 September 2025, 02:12

M.Shy

quote:
Originally posted by tomahawker:
The US economy is THE economy everyone wants a slice of. It makes no difference who what when or where said or did what. If you sell something you to get it in the US market. End of story. Hyundai’s board of directors is well aware of this and probably issuing an apology as we speak. As is every other car manufacturer who would love a lil space for themselves. No one and I mean no one spends money like the US.

Right there
Funny how everyone bitched about tariffs and so forth while they all charged high tariffs

08 September 2025, 02:16

ledvm

Who wants a Hyundai!?

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08 September 2025, 03:37

medved

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

there is a chance we will get some new plants here in canada ...

why? dude, do you grow your own supply? 10x the customer base in the US, without customs/tariffs - what are you smoking? oh, wait, your are still waiting for the magic pipelines and LNG ports .. let's check back in 2030 on the progress...

ah ah and during that time your country is still buying lng and oill from us ... who is the joke of the world, dude? there is one lng port operating and soon some more projects that day you will cry when the lng will no more flow in your direction but you are so stupid that you are not seeing what is coming, dude ...

08 September 2025, 03:58

Thomas "Ty" Beaham

quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

there is a chance we will get some new plants here in canada ...

yet another Tall Poppy daydream...

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08 September 2025, 04:02

Thomas "Ty" Beaham

Well, if we can believe the news, it's Hyundai and South Korea doing the puckering up.

For their sake, I hope Uncle Sam washed his arse this morning.

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08 September 2025, 04:11

medved

quote:
Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

there is a chance we will get some new plants here in canada ...

yet another Tall Poppy daydream...

.

another one. do not call us next time you need us ...

08 September 2025, 04:14

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

there is a chance we will get some new plants here in canada ...

why? dude, do you grow your own supply? 10x the customer base in the US, without customs/tariffs - what are you smoking? oh, wait, your are still waiting for the magic pipelines and LNG ports .. let's check back in 2030 on the progress...

ah ah and during that time your country is still buying lng and oill from us ... who is the joke of the world, dude? there is one lng port operating and soon some more projects that day you will cry when the lng will no more flow in your direction but you are so stupid that you are not seeing what is coming, dude ...

so, the tariffs didn't DO anything? weird, you were hear crying that it would crash the US economy --

your ONE LNG port PROJECT is cute -- try to catch up ..

if you were any dumber, i'd swear you were maggie's brother

08 September 2025, 04:16

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

there is a chance we will get some new plants here in canada ...

yet another Tall Poppy daydream...

.

another one. do not call us next time you need us ...

you know you have the relationship backwards, right?

a "chance" of new plants? only in your grow house

08 September 2025, 05:43

medved

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
quote:
Originally posted by medved:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
It would seem that the Trump administration's go-to action is belligerence and insult when dealing with allies. The arrest of a horde of south Koreans for POSSIBLE visa infractions is kind of an example.
I could see South Korea choosing to invest their money elsewhere; perhaps in a country which is less antagonistic. Canada is probably out because the Liberal government has long discouraged business investment.
I don't know how much money Hyundai has spent here so far, but it might make sense to simply cut their losses. Bill

there is a chance we will get some new plants here in canada ...

yet another Tall Poppy daydream...

.

another one. do not call us next time you need us ...

you know you have the relationship backwards, right?

a "chance" of new plants? only in your grow house

for soemone ignoring me you have a crush ...

btw many of your allies from the past came to your help when asked try that next time and see how it goes. still do not believe that you are supportingyour supreme leader on the tariffs idea and think it will not affect you ...

for the backward relationship just for your memory help: think about 9/11 and the fact that your country called for help in afghanistan not the contrary ... but i can understand it is not east to accept you need others ...

btw how come your country is still buying lng, natural gaz and oil from us if you do not need us ...

08 September 2025, 06:20

M.Shy

What’s Canadas labor situation like for insourcing?
Readily available?
Is it reasonable?
Which provinces?

08 September 2025, 16:57

LHeym500

When Gov. Brian Kemp signed a $5.5 billion manufacturing deal with Hyundai Motor Group, Georgia celebrated it as the largest economic development project in state history. Georgia gave the carmaker $2 billion in tax breaks, and in return Hyundai’s new electric-vehicle megafactory would give the Savannah region an economic boost.

Republicans in GA sure liked the investment.

08 September 2025, 17:20

fulvio

quote:
Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
IF it comes to pass that none of the Hyundai employees were here illegally, Uncle Sam should get down on all fours and kiss Hyundai's rosy-red-ring, suffer the financial consequences in civil court, and the court of public opinion.
"Allied" consequences to U.S. are obvious.

IF prospective employees were hired after fraudulently presenting fake, forged, or stolen documents,
Hyundai is off the hook, the illegals get the boot, and management should take a closer look at their hiring practices.

IF Uncle Sam can prove that Hyundai KNEW they were hiring overstays, improperly documented or undocumented aliens, Hyundai should be fined and their doors shuttered.
"Allied" consequences to South Korea are obvious.

There are 3 types of Visas for entry to the US and ANY other country:

1. Tourist Visa usually 3 months stay, NO WORK PERMITTED.
2. Business Visa normally for max. 6 months which allows for Business Conferences, Marketing and Training Courses; NO WORK PERMITTED.
3. Work Visa is a permit for a foreign national to enter and work in the U.S. for a specific period, requiring a job offer by a U.S. employer with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

There are Temporary (non-immigrant) Work Visas for fixed-term employment and permanent (immigrant) visas for long-term or permanent residency.

If the Hyundai Factory Koreans did not have n.3 in their top pocket then they have been caught with their pants down (so it seems).

09 September 2025, 02:26

Bill Leeper

quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
What’s Canadas labor situation like for insourcing?
Readily available?
Is it reasonable?
Which provinces?

Canada's labor situation exactly like that in the US. Young people too lazy and entitled to work, tradespeople who are members first and workers second, and executives who are more concerned with tee times than production.
In other words, it sucks. Bill.

09 September 2025, 03:05

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Who wants a Hyundai!?

They do seem to sell. I idly wonder why the Koreans had so many of their citizens working in Georgia.

09 September 2025, 07:40

M.Shy

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
What’s Canadas labor situation like for insourcing?
Readily available?
Is it reasonable?
Which provinces?

Canada's labor situation exactly like that in the US. Young people too lazy and entitled to work, tradespeople who are members first and workers second, and executives who are more concerned with tee times than production.
In other words, it sucks. Bill.

I do believe young generations will pull the wagon
My Dad thought we were worthless as a generation and we did OK and world is still standing so I always defend younger generations because when their time comes to hold this world up, they will like the old generations did before them

09 September 2025, 09:17

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
What’s Canadas labor situation like for insourcing?
Readily available?
Is it reasonable?
Which provinces?

Canada's labor situation exactly like that in the US. Young people too lazy and entitled to work, tradespeople who are members first and workers second, and executives who are more concerned with tee times than production.
In other words, it sucks. Bill.

I do believe young generations will pull the wagon
My Dad thought we were worthless as a generation and we did OK and world is still standing so I always defend younger generations because when their time comes to hold this world up, they will like the old generations did before them

The world will survive, no doubt.

But I cannot help that the younger generation is being messed up by social media.

We keep getting approached by "influencers" who promise to improve our business!

And these are, as far as I am concerned, are the lowest of the human race!