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Originally posted by shankspony:
I see they have, alongside targeting navy vessels, now hit a russian flagged oil tanker with one of thier sea drones.
With the end of the grain deal and russias threats to stop all shipping into ukraine, Its in my view justifiable and will impact russian oil exports Id suggest, if they continue.

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Saeed, something must be driving your opinion that Ukraine defending its territory is bad.

It sure isn't the evidence that's driving your views. The evidence shows Russian tanks and troops pouring across the border.

What is it, I wonder?

quote:

Originally posted by jdollar:
He was elected with an overwhelming majority in an election monitored by international observers. And what did Ukraine promise, to be a Russian puppet??

quote:

Originally posted by skb:
Tell us about the peaceful representative government elections held in the Islamic world. I noticed another lovely bombing at a political rally last week in Pakistan.

Ukraine is not Iran. Nobody forced Putin to go to war, that much is obvious to anyone paying attention.

But you will continue on with your alternative facts as long as your relationship with Russia remains profitable.

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Originally posted by skb:
Our elections are far more free than any you will ever vote in....

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by skb:
Tell us about the peaceful representative government elections held in the Islamic world. I noticed another lovely bombing at a political rally last week in Pakistan.

Ukraine is not Iran. Nobody forced Putin to go to war, that much is obvious to anyone paying attention.

But you will continue on with your alternative facts as long as your relationship with Russia remains profitable.

I pray and hope we never, EVER, have your sort of “free” elections!

You are setting an example for the world of how “democracy” works. NOT!

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Saeed, something must be driving your opinion that Ukraine defending its territory is bad.

It sure isn't the evidence that's driving your views. The evidence shows Russian tanks and troops pouring across the border.

What is it, I wonder?

Hahaha!

You crteated this war.

The West's puppet never won any elections.

He was installed in place just for this to happen.

Remember Iran?

When an elected government was removed and replaced by one of your puppets?

Nothing different here.

He reneged on all his promise to Russia, leaving Putin no option but to cloat him.

The West went haywire towards Russia, just because they invaded another country?

How come this never happened in every case America invaded, pillaged and destroyed countries?

quote:

Originally posted by jdollar:
I heard on the news tonight that Saudi Arabia is currently hosting a peace conference to kick around peaceful solutions to the war. 40 countries are attending, including China. Russia wasn’t invited. Maybe Dubai should host a war conference and only invade Vlad the Invader….

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:
Would it be ok to say, "every freedom living country and the United States," instead?

I mean Dude, it doesn't always have to be us first.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Unrestricted naval warfare has an unfortunate history of bringing others into the war.

Sinking merchant shipping has the potential to cost Ukraine some of its friends… and runs the risk of uninvolved folks ships getting shot up.

I’m good with us helping the Ukrainians defend their nation.

I have some concerns about giving them weapons to take the fight to Russia in Russia - offensive weapons.

This war is getting close to expanding to a general war with this.

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I have some concerns about giving them weapons to take the fight to Russia in Russia - offensive weapons.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Saeed, something must be driving your opinion that Ukraine defending its territory is bad.

It sure isn't the evidence that's driving your views. The evidence shows Russian tanks and troops pouring across the border.

What is it, I wonder?

Hahaha!

You crteated this war.

The West's puppet never won any elections.

He was installed in place just for this to happen.

Remember Iran?

When an elected government was removed and replaced by one of your puppets?

Nothing different here.

He reneged on all his promise to Russia, leaving Putin no option but to cloat him.

The West went haywire towards Russia, just because they invaded another country?

How come this never happened in every case America invaded, pillaged and destroyed countries?

How odd. I thought Putin started the war when he invaded Ukraine. Was there a war before and none of us noticed? How on earth do you come to the conclusion that we created this war?

Your analysis is about 180 degrees off Saeed. Like Roland, I'm not sure I understand the basis for your support of Putin and Russia in this dispute. And, you haven't really explained it other than your usual "Everything bad that happens in the world is the fault of the United States" bullshit. Which doesn't explain it in any way that I can understand. Ukraine is a sovereign country invaded by another country seeking to destroy or destabilize that sovereignty and to take territory from that country and bring it under the control of Russia. I hope that if your country was invaded under similar circumstances, you'd be willing to pick up a rifle and resist. No? What I know beyond any certainty is that you'd be begging the US to support you with everything available. Or, I dunno...maybe not. You seem like such a Putin fan, maybe you'd like to have the Russians take over your country?

My guess is that you'd be looking for all the help you could get. And guess which country would be sending money, troops (probably necessary since you can't defend yourselves), beans and bullets to your country if it was invaded? You think maybe us? I wonder if you'd tell us to butt out then? I bet not.

You're on the wrong side of this and it's not even close. I get your desire to stir shit in relation to the US but, damn.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:
Would it be ok to say, "every freedom living country and the United States," instead?

I mean Dude, it doesn't always have to be us first.

It's always us first. And, you know it. Nobody else is going to do anything that really matters.

Especially here. Got to give Putin something to think about. I'm the farthest thing from a war-monger but he needs to understand we are going to give the Ukrainians everything they need to resist.

I'm an old man but I'd be picking up a rifle if I lived in Ukraine. I'm guessing your a young man but I bet you would be too. You fight for your home.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Evidently, Saeed can't defend Putin, so he falls back to replaying his old, tired recording, "The US is bad." It's a miracle the needle still runs in the tracks.

I tend to agree with Mike. Russian ships in international waters attacking Ukrainians are war targets.

But I oppose attacking the Russians on Russian territory. An attack on the Russian homeland would only build up Putin's domestic support.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Saeed, something must be driving your opinion that Ukraine defending its territory is bad.

It sure isn't the evidence that's driving your views. The evidence shows Russian tanks and troops pouring across the border.

What is it, I wonder?

Hahaha!

You crteated this war.

The West's puppet never won any elections.

He was installed in place just for this to happen.

Remember Iran?

When an elected government was removed and replaced by one of your puppets?

Nothing different here.

He reneged on all his promise to Russia, leaving Putin no option but to cloat him.

The West went haywire towards Russia, just because they invaded another country?

How come this never happened in every case America invaded, pillaged and destroyed countries?

How odd. I thought Putin started the war when he invaded Ukraine. Was there a war before and none of us noticed? How on earth do you come to the conclusion that we created this war?

Your analysis is about 180 degrees off Saeed. Like Roland, I'm not sure I understand the basis for your support of Putin and Russia in this dispute. And, you haven't really explained it other than your usual "Everything bad that happens in the world is the fault of the United States" bullshit. Which doesn't explain it in any way that I can understand. Ukraine is a sovereign country invaded by another country seeking to destroy or destabilize that sovereignty and to take territory from that country and bring it under the control of Russia. I hope that if your country was invaded under similar circumstances, you'd be willing to pick up a rifle and resist. No? What I know beyond any certainty is that you'd be begging the US to support you with everything available. Or, I dunno...maybe not. You seem like such a Putin fan, maybe you'd like to have the Russians take over your country?

My guess is that you'd be looking for all the help you could get. And guess which country would be sending money, troops (probably necessary since you can't defend yourselves), beans and bullets to your country if it was invaded? You think maybe us? I wonder if you'd tell us to butt out then? I bet not.

You're on the wrong side of this and it's not even close. I get your desire to stir shit in relation to the US but, damn.

Goes to show how ignorant you lot are about world politics.

And your own government's involvement in destabilizing the world!

Tell me, how is it going at home?

Your political parties leaders are both in criminal investigations.

You are being blackmailed by blacks into bankruptcy for crimes you never committed.

Your woke cities are being destroyed from within.

Do you really think YOU know what is going on?

How did the Vietnam war start?

Over 50 thousands Americans are dead, and millions of civilians?

Agent Orange is still killing people in South East Asia.

Who is responsible?

The Golf Of Tonkin Incident brings any memories?

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Saeed, something must be driving your opinion that Ukraine defending its territory is bad.

It sure isn't the evidence that's driving your views. The evidence shows Russian tanks and troops pouring across the border.

What is it, I wonder?

Hahaha!

You crteated this war.

The West's puppet never won any elections.

He was installed in place just for this to happen.

Remember Iran?

When an elected government was removed and replaced by one of your puppets?

Nothing different here.

He reneged on all his promise to Russia, leaving Putin no option but to cloat him.

The West went haywire towards Russia, just because they invaded another country?

How come this never happened in every case America invaded, pillaged and destroyed countries?

How odd. I thought Putin started the war when he invaded Ukraine. Was there a war before and none of us noticed? How on earth do you come to the conclusion that we created this war?

Your analysis is about 180 degrees off Saeed. Like Roland, I'm not sure I understand the basis for your support of Putin and Russia in this dispute. And, you haven't really explained it other than your usual "Everything bad that happens in the world is the fault of the United States" bullshit. Which doesn't explain it in any way that I can understand. Ukraine is a sovereign country invaded by another country seeking to destroy or destabilize that sovereignty and to take territory from that country and bring it under the control of Russia. I hope that if your country was invaded under similar circumstances, you'd be willing to pick up a rifle and resist. No? What I know beyond any certainty is that you'd be begging the US to support you with everything available. Or, I dunno...maybe not. You seem like such a Putin fan, maybe you'd like to have the Russians take over your country?

My guess is that you'd be looking for all the help you could get. And guess which country would be sending money, troops (probably necessary since you can't defend yourselves), beans and bullets to your country if it was invaded? You think maybe us? I wonder if you'd tell us to butt out then? I bet not.

You're on the wrong side of this and it's not even close. I get your desire to stir shit in relation to the US but, damn.

Goes to show how ignorant you lot are about world politics.

And your own government's involvement in destabilizing the world!

Tell me, how is it going at home?

Your political parties leaders are both in criminal investigations.

You are being blackmailed by blacks into bankruptcy for crimes you never committed.

Your woke cities are being destroyed from within.

Do you really think YOU know what is going on?

How did the Vietnam war start?

Over 50 thousands Americans are dead, and millions of civilians?

Agent Orange is still killing people in South East Asia.

Who is responsible?

The Golf Of Tonkin Incident brings any memories?

The Vietnam war started because the United States was trying to stop communist aggression in Southeast Asia. North Vietnam was trying to take over South Vietnam. We mistakenly stuck our noses into it.

I'm sitting here trying to think of some way to insult your country but then I realize that your country has really never done anything that anybody anywhere gives a shit about, good or bad. I guess that's why you harp on us. Gives you something to talk about since the desert shithole you live in is so boring and has zero history, good or bad.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Saeed, something must be driving your opinion that Ukraine defending its territory is bad.

It sure isn't the evidence that's driving your views. The evidence shows Russian tanks and troops pouring across the border.

What is it, I wonder?

Hahaha!

You crteated this war.

The West's puppet never won any elections.

He was installed in place just for this to happen.

Remember Iran?

When an elected government was removed and replaced by one of your puppets?

Nothing different here.

He reneged on all his promise to Russia, leaving Putin no option but to cloat him.

The West went haywire towards Russia, just because they invaded another country?

How come this never happened in every case America invaded, pillaged and destroyed countries?

How odd. I thought Putin started the war when he invaded Ukraine. Was there a war before and none of us noticed? How on earth do you come to the conclusion that we created this war?

Your analysis is about 180 degrees off Saeed. Like Roland, I'm not sure I understand the basis for your support of Putin and Russia in this dispute. And, you haven't really explained it other than your usual "Everything bad that happens in the world is the fault of the United States" bullshit. Which doesn't explain it in any way that I can understand. Ukraine is a sovereign country invaded by another country seeking to destroy or destabilize that sovereignty and to take territory from that country and bring it under the control of Russia. I hope that if your country was invaded under similar circumstances, you'd be willing to pick up a rifle and resist. No? What I know beyond any certainty is that you'd be begging the US to support you with everything available. Or, I dunno...maybe not. You seem like such a Putin fan, maybe you'd like to have the Russians take over your country?

My guess is that you'd be looking for all the help you could get. And guess which country would be sending money, troops (probably necessary since you can't defend yourselves), beans and bullets to your country if it was invaded? You think maybe us? I wonder if you'd tell us to butt out then? I bet not.

You're on the wrong side of this and it's not even close. I get your desire to stir shit in relation to the US but, damn.

Goes to show how ignorant you lot are about world politics.

And your own government's involvement in destabilizing the world!

Tell me, how is it going at home?

Your political parties leaders are both in criminal investigations.

You are being blackmailed by blacks into bankruptcy for crimes you never committed.

Your woke cities are being destroyed from within.

Do you really think YOU know what is going on?

How did the Vietnam war start?

Over 50 thousands Americans are dead, and millions of civilians?

Agent Orange is still killing people in South East Asia.

Who is responsible?

The Golf Of Tonkin Incident brings any memories?

The Vietnam war started because the United States was trying to stop communist aggression in Southeast Asia. North Vietnam was trying to take over South Vietnam. We mistakenly stuck our noses into it.

I'm sitting here trying to think of some way to insult your country but then I realize that your country has really never done anything that anybody anywhere gives a shit about, good or bad. I guess that's why you harp on us. Gives you something to talk about since the desert shithole you live in is so boring and has zero history, good or bad.

Bullshit!

Johnson was paid to kill Kennedy!

So the arms industry has a field day of bankrupting the country!

Has stop since then!

Non stop senseless wars!

Totally forgetting the troubles at home.

See what is going on now??

America is being a beacon of FREEDOM!

quote:

Originally posted by skb:
We need the space emoji fixed!

quote:

Originally posted by jdollar:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Saeed, something must be driving your opinion that Ukraine defending its territory is bad.

It sure isn't the evidence that's driving your views. The evidence shows Russian tanks and troops pouring across the border.

What is it, I wonder?

Hahaha!

You crteated this war.

The West's puppet never won any elections.

He was installed in place just for this to happen.

Remember Iran?

When an elected government was removed and replaced by one of your puppets?

Nothing different here.

He reneged on all his promise to Russia, leaving Putin no option but to cloat him.

The West went haywire towards Russia, just because they invaded another country?

How come this never happened in every case America invaded, pillaged and destroyed countries?

How odd. I thought Putin started the war when he invaded Ukraine. Was there a war before and none of us noticed? How on earth do you come to the conclusion that we created this war?

Your analysis is about 180 degrees off Saeed. Like Roland, I'm not sure I understand the basis for your support of Putin and Russia in this dispute. And, you haven't really explained it other than your usual "Everything bad that happens in the world is the fault of the United States" bullshit. Which doesn't explain it in any way that I can understand. Ukraine is a sovereign country invaded by another country seeking to destroy or destabilize that sovereignty and to take territory from that country and bring it under the control of Russia. I hope that if your country was invaded under similar circumstances, you'd be willing to pick up a rifle and resist. No? What I know beyond any certainty is that you'd be begging the US to support you with everything available. Or, I dunno...maybe not. You seem like such a Putin fan, maybe you'd like to have the Russians take over your country?

My guess is that you'd be looking for all the help you could get. And guess which country would be sending money, troops (probably necessary since you can't defend yourselves), beans and bullets to your country if it was invaded? You think maybe us? I wonder if you'd tell us to butt out then? I bet not.

You're on the wrong side of this and it's not even close. I get your desire to stir shit in relation to the US but, damn.

Goes to show how ignorant you lot are about world politics.

And your own government's involvement in destabilizing the world!

Tell me, how is it going at home?

Your political parties leaders are both in criminal investigations.

You are being blackmailed by blacks into bankruptcy for crimes you never committed.

Your woke cities are being destroyed from within.

Do you really think YOU know what is going on?

How did the Vietnam war start?

Over 50 thousands Americans are dead, and millions of civilians?

Agent Orange is still killing people in South East Asia.

Who is responsible?

The Golf Of Tonkin Incident brings any memories?

The Vietnam war started because the United States was trying to stop communist aggression in Southeast Asia. North Vietnam was trying to take over South Vietnam. We mistakenly stuck our noses into it.

I'm sitting here trying to think of some way to insult your country but then I realize that your country has really never done anything that anybody anywhere gives a shit about, good or bad. I guess that's why you harp on us. Gives you something to talk about since the desert shithole you live in is so boring and has zero history, good or bad.

Bullshit!

Johnson was paid to kill Kennedy!

So the arms industry has a field day of bankrupting the country!

Has stop since then!

Non stop senseless wars!

Totally forgetting the troubles at home.

See what is going on now??

America is being a beacon of FREEDOM!