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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

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Originally posted by Bobster:
Everybody missed the forecast of massive rain. This includes The Weather Channel who get their own data. They appeared to be more focused on a minimal tropical depression off the SE coast.

From AI:

"The Weather Channel gets its forecast data from observational data collected by doppler radar, radiosondes, weather satellites, buoys, and other instruments1. They license their weather data from IBM5. While their data is fairly close to the National Weather Service (NWS), there may be slight differences in pressure and other elements2."

There are reports of cloud seeding just prior to the event. Here is a supporting link:

https://countylocalnews.com/20...seeding-controversy/

The real pressing question is why city and/or county council didn't have an adequate warning system. Here in SC we have sirens and cell alerts. Also, why didn't the camp officials monitor conditions and heed initial alerts posted 12 hrs. prior?

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Originally posted by crbutler:
This certainly is a horrible event.

I thought that cell phones automatically alert you to warnings in your areas?

I had that on mine until I turned them off for excessive noise to signal ratio- getting woke up to a blaring loud alarm that is a yellow alert (kid supposedly taken by her dad) 4 counties away at 3 am was the final straw for me- but if I get in a flash flood, it’s on me because of that.

Is this something that is unique to us damnyankees or something?

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
The NWS office responsible for the area of this severe weather event says they were not only fully staffed, but had extra people on duty.

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Good thing trump and DOGE cut funding for weather forecasting and FEMA disaster relief.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
This certainly is a horrible event.

I thought that cell phones automatically alert you to warnings in your areas?

I had that on mine until I turned them off for excessive noise to signal ratio- getting woke up to a blaring loud alarm that is a yellow alert (kid supposedly taken by her dad) 4 counties away at 3 am was the final straw for me- but if I get in a flash flood, it’s on me because of that.

Is this something that is unique to us damnyankees or something?

No cell service in that area of the Hill Country. Not unusual.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
I’m continually amazed that people here can turn a natural disaster into a political diatribe…

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
I’m continually amazed that people here can turn a natural disaster into a political diatribe…

Just an idle thought, dams have become on of the whipping boys of the left, evil and destructive to the point that numerous ones have been removed. Would a series of dams on the Guadalupe river have mitigated or prevented this catastrophe? That's what we're doing here.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
I’m continually amazed that people here can turn a natural disaster into a political diatribe…

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
The NWS office responsible for the area of this severe weather event says they were not only fully staffed, but had extra people on duty.

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

Unfortunately, the most important position was the victim of your orange jesus's cutbacks at the NOAA and the NWS.

>>>Among those who left was Paul Yura, who had been the warning coordination meteorologist at the NWS's Austin/San Antonio office. Yura spent more than half of his 32-year career in the office and took an early retirement offer in April, KXAN reported.

According to the NWS, duties of a warning coordination meteorologist include acting as a liaison to public safety officials, including emergency managers, and providing government officials with information on severe weather.<<<<

Again, this was a 100 year storm. But, the optics with all these NOAA/NWS firings aren't good for you trumptards, are they? Fire the weather forecasters and a few months later, you've got 90 dead bodies courtesy of a botched weather forecast...including 27 children.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So you're mad some old guy retired after a long career? Really?

I sure don't recall your rabid and savage response to the hurricane Helene debacle. The death toll was upwards of 250 people. Where were you?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
The NWS office responsible for the area of this severe weather event says they were not only fully staffed, but had extra people on duty.

quote:

Originally posted by 300shooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

Unfortunately, the most important position was the victim of your orange jesus's cutbacks at the NOAA and the NWS.

>>>Among those who left was Paul Yura, who had been the warning coordination meteorologist at the NWS's Austin/San Antonio office. Yura spent more than half of his 32-year career in the office and took an early retirement offer in April, KXAN reported.

According to the NWS, duties of a warning coordination meteorologist include acting as a liaison to public safety officials, including emergency managers, and providing government officials with information on severe weather.<<<<

Again, this was a 100 year storm. But, the optics with all these NOAA/NWS firings aren't good for you trumptards, are they? Fire the weather forecasters and a few months later, you've got 90 dead bodies courtesy of a botched weather forecast...including 27 children.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So you're mad some old guy retired after a long career? Really?

I sure don't recall your rabid and savage response to the hurricane Helene debacle. The death toll was upwards of 250 people. Where were you?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
The NWS office responsible for the area of this severe weather event says they were not only fully staffed, but had extra people on duty.

quote:

Originally posted by 300shooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

Unfortunately, the most important position was the victim of your orange jesus's cutbacks at the NOAA and the NWS.

>>>Among those who left was Paul Yura, who had been the warning coordination meteorologist at the NWS's Austin/San Antonio office. Yura spent more than half of his 32-year career in the office and took an early retirement offer in April, KXAN reported.

According to the NWS, duties of a warning coordination meteorologist include acting as a liaison to public safety officials, including emergency managers, and providing government officials with information on severe weather.<<<<

Again, this was a 100 year storm. But, the optics with all these NOAA/NWS firings aren't good for you trumptards, are they? Fire the weather forecasters and a few months later, you've got 90 dead bodies courtesy of a botched weather forecast...including 27 children.

Oh, please....criticism from you about a lack of compassion is like being called ugly by a frog.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So you're mad some old guy retired after a long career? Really?

I sure don't recall your rabid and savage response to the hurricane Helene debacle. The death toll was upwards of 250 people. Where were you?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
The NWS office responsible for the area of this severe weather event says they were not only fully staffed, but had extra people on duty.

quote:

Originally posted by 300shooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

Unfortunately, the most important position was the victim of your orange jesus's cutbacks at the NOAA and the NWS.

>>>Among those who left was Paul Yura, who had been the warning coordination meteorologist at the NWS's Austin/San Antonio office. Yura spent more than half of his 32-year career in the office and took an early retirement offer in April, KXAN reported.

According to the NWS, duties of a warning coordination meteorologist include acting as a liaison to public safety officials, including emergency managers, and providing government officials with information on severe weather.<<<<

Again, this was a 100 year storm. But, the optics with all these NOAA/NWS firings aren't good for you trumptards, are they? Fire the weather forecasters and a few months later, you've got 90 dead bodies courtesy of a botched weather forecast...including 27 children.

Oh, please....criticism from you about a lack of compassion is like being called ugly by a frog.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Mitchell,

You are ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So you're mad some old guy retired after a long career? Really?

I sure don't recall your rabid and savage response to the hurricane Helene debacle. The death toll was upwards of 250 people. Where were you?

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
The NWS office responsible for the area of this severe weather event says they were not only fully staffed, but had extra people on duty.

quote:

Originally posted by 300shooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

Unfortunately, the most important position was the victim of your orange jesus's cutbacks at the NOAA and the NWS.

>>>Among those who left was Paul Yura, who had been the warning coordination meteorologist at the NWS's Austin/San Antonio office. Yura spent more than half of his 32-year career in the office and took an early retirement offer in April, KXAN reported.

According to the NWS, duties of a warning coordination meteorologist include acting as a liaison to public safety officials, including emergency managers, and providing government officials with information on severe weather.<<<<

Again, this was a 100 year storm. But, the optics with all these NOAA/NWS firings aren't good for you trumptards, are they? Fire the weather forecasters and a few months later, you've got 90 dead bodies courtesy of a botched weather forecast...including 27 children.

Oh, please....criticism from you about a lack of compassion is like being called ugly by a frog.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Mitchell,

You are ridiculous.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So you're mad some old guy retired after a long career? Really?

I sure don't recall your rabid and savage response to the hurricane Helene debacle. The death toll was upwards of 250 people. Where were you?

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
The NWS office responsible for the area of this severe weather event says they were not only fully staffed, but had extra people on duty.

quote:

Originally posted by 300shooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

Unfortunately, the most important position was the victim of your orange jesus's cutbacks at the NOAA and the NWS.

>>>Among those who left was Paul Yura, who had been the warning coordination meteorologist at the NWS's Austin/San Antonio office. Yura spent more than half of his 32-year career in the office and took an early retirement offer in April, KXAN reported.

According to the NWS, duties of a warning coordination meteorologist include acting as a liaison to public safety officials, including emergency managers, and providing government officials with information on severe weather.<<<<

Again, this was a 100 year storm. But, the optics with all these NOAA/NWS firings aren't good for you trumptards, are they? Fire the weather forecasters and a few months later, you've got 90 dead bodies courtesy of a botched weather forecast...including 27 children.

Oh, please....criticism from you about a lack of compassion is like being called ugly by a frog.

And, you're a dumbass.

The timing on trump's cutbacks at the NWS and the NOAA don't look too good right now, do they? 109 dead with dozens more still missing.

I'm sure that the cutbacks helped improve the chances of predicting the event and maybe saving some lives. Right? I mean less weather forecasters is better. Unless hundreds of people die in a weather event.

You keep paddling though Ann. Everything is OK in your neck of the woods. And, that's all that matters.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
You are wrong. There were no staffing cuts to date, Mitchell. NONE. One guy retired. BFD. There were more people on duty that night than usual.

It's pretty hard to alert rural places of flash floods and other severe weather in the middle of the night. Such do not have the same systems available that you city slickers have. If anything, you are the people responsible for not making sure coms and other such systems are available for all Americans.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Mitchell,

You are ridiculous.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
So you're mad some old guy retired after a long career? Really?

I sure don't recall your rabid and savage response to the hurricane Helene debacle. The death toll was upwards of 250 people. Where were you?

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
The NWS office responsible for the area of this severe weather event says they were not only fully staffed, but had extra people on duty.

quote:

Originally posted by 300shooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Death toll passed 50 now with dozens more still missing.

Imagine if they had been warned. But with 50% of the Weather Service in Texas fired, the people responsible for that weren't on duty.

Trump and Musk killing Texans.....magats are so proud.

Unfortunately, the most important position was the victim of your orange jesus's cutbacks at the NOAA and the NWS.

>>>Among those who left was Paul Yura, who had been the warning coordination meteorologist at the NWS's Austin/San Antonio office. Yura spent more than half of his 32-year career in the office and took an early retirement offer in April, KXAN reported.

According to the NWS, duties of a warning coordination meteorologist include acting as a liaison to public safety officials, including emergency managers, and providing government officials with information on severe weather.<<<<

Again, this was a 100 year storm. But, the optics with all these NOAA/NWS firings aren't good for you trumptards, are they? Fire the weather forecasters and a few months later, you've got 90 dead bodies courtesy of a botched weather forecast...including 27 children.

Oh, please....criticism from you about a lack of compassion is like being called ugly by a frog.

And, you're a dumbass.

The timing on trump's cutbacks at the NWS and the NOAA don't look too good right now, do they? 109 dead with dozens more still missing.

I'm sure that the cutbacks helped improve the chances of predicting the event and maybe saving some lives. Right? I mean less weather forecasters is better. Unless hundreds of people die in a weather event.

You keep paddling though Ann. Everything is OK in your neck of the woods. And, that's all that matters.