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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Steve, you are really taking on the character of a box of rocks with your comments here.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Maybe lane can explain how it is fine to purchase a firearm through a straw purchase,

First, a “straw purchase” was not proven.

self appoint yourself as a peace keeper

He is 17 and used poor judgement to enter the situation. We can agree on that.

when you are not legally old enough to posses a firearm,

Can minors take a long gun hunting?

and then kill a man.

The kid was attacked. Had the attacker not attacked he would be alive. Would you have had Kyle not defend himself and end up injured, maimed, or dead?

That little shit stain Rittenhouse should be in jail long before Baldwin.

It is your right to disagree with this legal decision and I respect your right to do so. But the fact remains that Kyle went through the legal system and was acquitted by the system. I say that to point out your hypocrisy when you give me crap for disagreeing with the criminal trial against Trump. Can’t have it both ways steve.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
PS: there is still ZERO relevance between Baldwin and Rittenhouse.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Maybe lane can explain how it is fine to purchase a firearm through a straw purchase,

First, a “straw purchase” was not proven. Yes, it was, the charges were filed against the buyer and he pled guilty. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/n...rison-with-plea-deal

self appoint yourself as a peace keeper

He is 17 and used poor judgement to enter the situation. We can agree on that.

when you are not legally old enough to posses a firearm,

Can minors take a long gun hunting? that is not the question, you must be 18 under Federal law to purchase a firearm, he was not and he gave the money to an older friend who could make the purchase. The shit stain was not hunting.

and then kill a man.

The kid was attacked. Had the attacker not attacked he would be alive. Would you have had Kyle not defend himself and end up injured, maimed, or dead? No, his punk ass should have been at home where it belonged, not out playing cops.

That little shit stain Rittenhouse should be in jail long before Baldwin.

It is your right to disagree with this legal decision and I respect your right to do so. But the fact remains that Kyle went through the legal system and was acquitted by the system. I say that to point out your hypocrisy when you give me crap for disagreeing with the criminal trial against Trump. Can’t have it both ways steve.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Maybe lane can explain how it is fine to purchase a firearm through a straw purchase,

First, a “straw purchase” was not proven. Yes, it was, the charges were filed against the buyer and he pled guilty. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/n...rison-with-plea-deal

No…it was not.

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from your article:
(Black) pleaded no contest Monday to a reduced charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor in a deal with prosecutors that allows him to avoid prison.

self appoint yourself as a peace keeper

He is 17 and used poor judgement to enter the situation. We can agree on that.

when you are not legally old enough to posses a firearm,

Can minors take a long gun hunting? that is not the question, you must be 18 under Federal law to purchase a firearm, he was not and he gave the money to an older friend who could make the purchase. The shit stain was not hunting.

and then kill a man.

The kid was attacked. Had the attacker not attacked he would be alive. Would you have had Kyle not defend himself and end up injured, maimed, or dead? No, his punk ass should have been at home where it belonged, not out playing cops.

That little shit stain Rittenhouse should be in jail long before Baldwin.

It is your right to disagree with this legal decision and I respect your right to do so. But the fact remains that Kyle went through the legal system and was acquitted by the system. I say that to point out your hypocrisy when you give me crap for disagreeing with the criminal trial against Trump. Can’t have it both ways steve.

He was acquitted, no argument from me. He is far more guilty than Baldwin though.

The relevence is obvious to all but the most obtuse.....that could be you Lane

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Originally posted by ledvm:
An actual “straw purchase” was not prosecuted because the evidence for it was weak.

Thus, a straw purchase was NOT proven. Kids are allowed to possess long guns. If not, a kid could not go hunting. You simply do not understand Federal law regarding possession and purchase. Trump can't legally own a gun either, in his case it is because he is a convicted Felon. Kyle was not old enough at the time to be carrying in public, or to buy the gun, that is why he gave the money to Black to complete the purchase. Plenty of evidence, prosecutorial discretion is at play, part of our system. Kyle and Black should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law in my view, but it was not my call to make.

Kyle exercised poor judgment for introducing himself into the situation.

He had not alternative but to defend himself or be harmed. He sure as hell did, he could have kept his silly ass home.

Had the attacker not attacked…he would be alive…simple fact. His death is on him.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
An actual “straw purchase” was not prosecuted because the evidence for it was weak.

Thus, a straw purchase was NOT proven. Kids are allowed to possess long guns. If not, a kid could not go hunting. You simply do not understand Federal law regarding possession and purchase. Trump can't legally own a gun either, in his case it is because he is a convicted Felon. Kyle was not old enough at the time to be carrying in public, or to buy the gun, that is why he gave the money to Black to complete the purchase. Plenty of evidence, prosecutorial discretion is at play, part of our system. Kyle and Black should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law in my view, but it was not my call to make.

Kyle exercised poor judgment for introducing himself into the situation.

He had not alternative but to defend himself or be harmed. He sure as hell did, he could have kept his silly ass home.

Had the attacker not attacked…he would be alive…simple fact. His death is on him.

The simple fact is shit stain Kyle pulled the trigger on a gun he had no business owning or carrying around town during a riot.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
An actual “straw purchase” was not prosecuted because the evidence for it was weak.

Thus, a straw purchase was NOT proven. Kids are allowed to possess long guns. If not, a kid could not go hunting. You simply do not understand Federal law regarding possession and purchase. Trump can't legally own a gun either, in his case it is because he is a convicted Felon. Kyle was not old enough at the time to be carrying in public, or to buy the gun, that is why he gave the money to Black to complete the purchase. Plenty of evidence, prosecutorial discretion is at play, part of our system. Kyle and Black should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law in my view, but it was not my call to make.

Kyle exercised poor judgment for introducing himself into the situation.

He had not alternative but to defend himself or be harmed. He sure as hell did, he could have kept his silly ass home.

Had the attacker not attacked…he would be alive…simple fact. His death is on him.

The simple fact is shit stain Kyle pulled the trigger on a gun he had no business owning or carrying around town during a riot.

Can a 17 year old kid legally come home from school, grab his shotgun and bird dog, get in his truck and drive down the county road to his grandpa’s farm and hunt pheasant?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
An actual “straw purchase” was not prosecuted because the evidence for it was weak.

Thus, a straw purchase was NOT proven. Kids are allowed to possess long guns. If not, a kid could not go hunting. You simply do not understand Federal law regarding possession and purchase. Trump can't legally own a gun either, in his case it is because he is a convicted Felon. Kyle was not old enough at the time to be carrying in public, or to buy the gun, that is why he gave the money to Black to complete the purchase. Plenty of evidence, prosecutorial discretion is at play, part of our system. Kyle and Black should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law in my view, but it was not my call to make.

Kyle exercised poor judgment for introducing himself into the situation.

He had not alternative but to defend himself or be harmed. He sure as hell did, he could have kept his silly ass home.

Had the attacker not attacked…he would be alive…simple fact. His death is on him.

The simple fact is shit stain Kyle pulled the trigger on a gun he had no business owning or carrying around town during a riot.

Can a 17 year old kid legally come home from school, grab his shotgun and bird dog, get in his truck and drive down the county road to his grandpa’s farm and hunt pheasant?

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Originally posted by theback40:
With exceptions.
Under 16 they can carry with strict supervision, hunting or target shooting.
Over 16 they can carry a rifle or shotgun with adult supervision. He was there with an adult friend, which would comply with the adult supervision.

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Originally posted by theback40:
The judge, Bruce Shroder, himself threw out the charge of unlawful carry. He said he was NOT barred from carrying.
You know Wisconsin law better than the judge?
You take in alot of ground with your guess work.

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Originally posted by theback40:
I am a bit curious....
You said he was guilty but was not charged because it was political.
12 members of the jury found him not guilty. All conspired politically for that result?
Does that mean Trump is innocent, because 12 members were politically motivated to find him guilty? I tend to think both juries knew what they were doing as they were there.