“Anti-science zealots and conservative talking heads have spent this week twisting themselves in knots to imagine that global climate change isn’t exacerbating wildfires around the globe.
In the U.S., climate change denial groups have made sweeping claims that the overall number of wildfires is down, ignoring the ballooning size and severity of infernos. In Canada, right-wing politicians have latched on to what they say must be a coordinated arson campaign, ignoring that fires are fueled by conditions on the ground regardless of how they start.

The partisan response — one that has played out many times amid extreme wildfire events in the U.S. — comes amid what a Stanford University research team confirmed to be the worst wildfire smoke day on record in the United States. The toxic plumes that have crippled cities across the Northeast and Midwest in recent days stem from “unprecedented” wildfires in neighboring Canada after a prolonged heat wave in May that shattered multiple temperature records.
As usual, the Heartland Institute is spearheading the right-wing disinformation campaign. In a press release Thursday, the group — known for its annual climate change denial and conspiracy conference — declared that “the reality is wildfires are becoming less frequent and severe as the planet modestly warms,” without bothering to link to a single study as evidence.
“Climate activists embarrass themselves when they claim that the fewer wildfires that still do occur must be caused by climate change and are proof of a climate crisis,” James Taylor, the group’s president, said in an accompanying statement”

WhAt do you like about this anti-science crap, Lane?

At least it’s not Democratic anti-science crap.

No one.

NO ONE can stop the world climate changing!

It has been going on since creation.

"The Science is Settled"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9-tY1oZNw

The center for Biological Diversity is hardly a conservative think tank.

https://www.biologicaldiversit...rest-management.html

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
"The Science is Settled"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9-tY1oZNw

The center for Biological Diversity is hardly a conservative think tank.

https://www.biologicaldiversit...rest-management.html

They are one of the most STUPID, IGNORANT, bunch of idiots on two legs!

An appropriate illustration of the thread title and anti science zealots.
This is your Asst. Secretary of Health

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Originally posted by tomahawker:


An appropriate illustration of the thread title and anti science zealots.
This is your Asst. Secretary of Health

I am confused.

Is this creature a nan, a woman, of a freak?

Just follow the science Saeed

You fools: Faced with a threat to human extinction, yet you whine about a few gay and transgenders.

Just follow the science…

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
You fools: Faced with a threat to human extinction, yet you whine about a few gay and transgenders.

A “threat to human extinction “? Good gravy. You know what has contributed the most to California’s wildfires lately? The piss poor forest management practice. Start with that analysis and get back to us.

Yea, those darn Canadians too are so guilty of piss poor forest management. Millions upon millions of acres of prime forest burned due to poor management. And then there's the massive amount of beetle kill trees as fuel.

Can't they see the error of their ways, now, with hundreds of wildfires, most out of control, and the summer burn season has just begun?


hummm

Yea, Bluefish, Trump’s idea to rake the forest floor is the answer

No, it is Newsom and his predecessors fault for not having better forestry management practices. It’s not always hard to understand.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
No, it is Newsom and his predecessors fault for not having better forestry management practices. It’s not always hard to understand.

You do realize those forests that were burning in CA as well as here in CO are Federal Land don't you? Not Newsome's job to maintain Federal land, that falls to Bureau of Land Management and US Forest Service, both under funded for decades.

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
You fools: Faced with a threat to human extinction, yet you whine about a few gay and transgenders.

If we let the queers and freaks marry each it WILL be the end of humans!

It takes a MAN and a WOMAN to procreate!

Queers and freaks don’t!

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
Yea, Bluefish, Trump’s idea to rake the forest floor is the answer

My favorite on this issue.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
No, it is Newsom and his predecessors fault for not having better forestry management practices. It’s not always hard to understand.

You do realize those forests that were burning in CA as well as here in CO are Federal Land don't you? Not Newsome's job to maintain Federal land, that falls to Bureau of Land Management and US Forest Service, both under funded for decades.

I stand corrected. I had blamed the wrong group of clowns for mismanagement practices.

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Originally posted by bluefish:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
No, it is Newsom and his predecessors fault for not having better forestry management practices. It’s not always hard to understand.

You do realize those forests that were burning in CA as well as here in CO are Federal Land don't you? Not Newsome's job to maintain Federal land, that falls to Bureau of Land Management and US Forest Service, both under funded for decades.

I stand corrected. I had blamed the wrong group of clowns for mismanagement practices.

I assume those would be the "we can differ our obligations until next year, while slashing tax rates for the wealthy" types that you are referring to?

Good one!

Saeed, your position is understandable. You survive on oil.

Bluefish, it’s true that the policies of stopping all fires has contributed to the fuel on the forest floor and made the fires worse than that would have been.

However, you take this fact and extrapolate to explain these huge fires throughout the West. That’s bullshit. The policy of controlling fires has been place since the thirties. How do you explain the lack of severity in 1975, 1985, 1995, etc.?

Orange skies are the future. Prepare yourself.
Story by Stuart Palley • 6h ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weat...16904b6d1c0da8&ei=21

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weat...81b6c3ebf75318&ei=40

El Niño Has Arrived
Story by Margaret Osborne • 3h ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weat...08c0648b06eac9&ei=31

How El Niño, 'freakish' warm oceans factor into hurricane season
Story by Emilee Speck • 4h ago

Some forecast models predict the 2023-24 event as a "super El Niño," in which water temperatures in the central and eastern Pacific reach at least 2 degrees Celsius above average.

FOX Weather Hurricane Specialist Bryan Norcross said the Pacific is warm but not a record yet. However, the eastern Atlantic temperatures are unprecedented.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weat...41727aeaeec779&ei=68

Why Canada’s wildfires are extreme and getting worse, in 4 charts
Story by Ian Livingston • 8h ago

(excerpts)

The fires have burned the most land on record so early in the season — more than 4.7 million hectares (11.6 million acres). And already, even though the fire season is just underway, more area has burned than in all but three entire fire seasons since modern records began in 1983.

The fire season’s rapid start can be traced to an outbreak of lightning-triggered blazes in May mostly in central and western Canada. They spread with breakneck speed because of unrelenting heat and parched ground.

Then Nova Scotia saw its biggest fire on record, and along came the blazes in Quebec, which were also mainly triggered by lightning. Residents of the eastern United States felt their smoky effects firsthand.

Several other key statistics drive home how unusual this fire season has been and how it fits into a concerning trend toward larger Canadian fires.

The land area burned so far has exceeded 5,000% of normal in some provinces

While Canada has had large fires in the past this early in the year, rarely has so much land area burned. Nova Scotia, Quebec, British Columbia, Alberta and Saskatchewan have been hit especially hard.

Fires have already scorched 25,201 hectares in Nova Scotia, nearly 10 times as much as in the entire season in 2008, the previous top year. The amount of land burned so far is 4,000 percent of the average amount.

It’s a similar story as one heads westward.

The 1,018,713 hectares burned in Quebec so far is greater than in every entire season on record except 2013.

In British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan and the Northwest Territories, where large fires are more common, the early-season burning has also been exceptional. The land area burned in British Columbia, for example, is about 5,000 percent of the normal to date, with 653,877 hectares charred.

Hey, Bluefish, what does the amount of fuel on the ground have to do with the fire season starting one week earlier and ending one week later?


"Climate change is increasing the frequency and intensity of wildland fires and creating longer fire seasons," Mike Norton, director general of the Canadian Forestry Centre, told reporters on June 5.

People walk along a pier in Transmitter Park as the Manhattan skyline is shrouded in smoke
Smoke from the Nova Scotia fires has reached as far as New YorkImage: picture alliance/NDZ/STAR MAX/IPx
Parts of Canada — as in many regions around the world — are seeing hotter, drier summers, along with sudden intense storms, which can increase the risk of lightning strikes, which have been responsible for many fires in the province of Quebec in recent days.

Long-range forecasts have said Atlantic Canada is in for a hot summer, with Global News meteorologist Anthony Farnell projecting a
"warmer-than-normal July and August."

Research published in the Canadian Journal of Forest Research in 2018 reported an increase in fire activity over the last half century, noting that blazes have become larger and that the fire season is "starting approximately one week earlier and ending one week later" since 1959.“

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
Saeed, your position is understandable. You survive on oil.

Bluefish, it’s true that the policies of stopping all fires has contributed to the fuel on the forest floor and made the fires worse than that would have been.

However, you take this fact and extrapolate to explain these huge fires throughout the West. That’s bullshit. The policy of controlling fires has been place since the thirties. How do you explain the lack of severity in 1975, 1985, 1995, etc.?

And oil is a perfect example to use here.

Where were humans when the dinosaurs went off the earth!

CLIMATE CHANGE SAYS GRETA!

Outdoor sportsmen have been and still should be the tip of the spear on environmental conservation. Clean water for trout, clean air for grouse, clean land for nesting/ breeding deer and ducks.

That the sportsmen's environmental advocacy blends with the Greenies just gathers more votes to our side.

The difference being of course our policies are based upon reason.