quote:

The United States has told its allies that it does not plan to participate in military exercises in Europe, according to reports.

The move, the latest in Donald Trump’s pivot away from the bloc, would see America pull out of exercises beyond those already scheduled for this year.

The withdrawal concerns exercises that are on the “drawing board”, according to Swedish newspaper Expressen.

It means that Nato countries will be forced to plan exercises without the participation of the US military, the largest in the alliance.

quote:

US President Donald Trump's team has ordered the termination of vital support for F-16 fighter jet jamming equipment that Ukraine has. What is important to understand is that this could deprive the Ukrainian Air Force of its most important air countermeasures.

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

US President Donald Trump's team has ordered the termination of vital support for F-16 fighter jet jamming equipment that Ukraine has. What is important to understand is that this could deprive the Ukrainian Air Force of its most important air countermeasures.

Link

Those cries you hear in the distance are defense company CEOs pulling their hair out.

Why would anybody risk buying American gear when using it depends on continually kissing a moron's ass?

quote:

Originally posted by wymple:
trump said he has doubts as to whether Nato would come to help us if we were under attack. The only time Article 5 has ever been used was after.....9-11. His ignorance is limitless.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by wymple:
trump said he has doubts as to whether Nato would come to help us if we were under attack. The only time Article 5 has ever been used was after.....9-11. His ignorance is limitless.

We discussed this in another thread he is an uneducated. The part that makes him a fool was during his prior administration, folks tried to educate him. He refused to listen, and then they exited the government.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Trump has done things to weaken Ukraine's position and emboldened Putin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b277dc870779d8&ei=19

Hundreds Dead: Inside the Trump Ukraine Fallout
Story by Simon Shuster/Kyiv • 14h • 4 min read

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Trump has done things to weaken Ukraine's position and emboldened Putin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b277dc870779d8&ei=19

Hundreds Dead: Inside the Trump Ukraine Fallout
Story by Simon Shuster/Kyiv • 14h • 4 min read

Interesting take when you juxtapose these.

https://2017-2021.state.gov/fa...on-to-nord-stream-2/

Then Biden...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674

You'd think if Trump was Putin stooge, just the opposite would have occurred.

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Trump has done things to weaken Ukraine's position and emboldened Putin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b277dc870779d8&ei=19

Hundreds Dead: Inside the Trump Ukraine Fallout
Story by Simon Shuster/Kyiv • 14h • 4 min read

Interesting take when you juxtapose these.

https://2017-2021.state.gov/fa...on-to-nord-stream-2/

Then Biden...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674

You'd think if Trump was Putin stooge, just the opposite would have occurred.

you always try to find good in your trump president lol you will see the light eventually ...

quote:

Do my links support the "Trump is a Russian asset", or just the opposite?

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Trump has done things to weaken Ukraine's position and emboldened Putin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b277dc870779d8&ei=19

Hundreds Dead: Inside the Trump Ukraine Fallout
Story by Simon Shuster/Kyiv • 14h • 4 min read

Interesting take when you juxtapose these.

https://2017-2021.state.gov/fa...on-to-nord-stream-2/

Then Biden...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674

You'd think if Trump was Putin stooge, just the opposite would have occurred.

you always try to find good in your trump president lol you will see the light eventually ...

And you do nothing but try to make ALL Americans look like douches. (Except the ones whom hate Trump.

Do my links support the "Trump is a Russian asset", or just the opposite? I don't expect an answer.

I think Trumps take on tariffs is way overboard, FWIW.

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Trump has done things to weaken Ukraine's position and emboldened Putin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b277dc870779d8&ei=19

Hundreds Dead: Inside the Trump Ukraine Fallout
Story by Simon Shuster/Kyiv • 14h • 4 min read

Interesting take when you juxtapose these.

https://2017-2021.state.gov/fa...on-to-nord-stream-2/

Then Biden...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674

You'd think if Trump was Putin stooge, just the opposite would have occurred.

you always try to find good in your trump president lol you will see the light eventually ...

And you do nothing but try to make ALL Americans look like douches. (Except the ones whom hate Trump.

Do my links support the "Trump is a Russian asset", or just the opposite? I don't expect an answer.

I think Trumps take on tariffs is way overboard, FWIW.

only tariffs, not the border cancel of 1908 nor the river negociation of 2018 it is a whole. your links did not say anything that contradict trump ... so sorry but you do not like what your president is doing to us so let do it clrealy instead of not being so clear ...

quote:

I think Trumps take on tariffs is way overboard, FWIW.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
So, now you claim that Trump's words mean what he says.

Hummm.

Try proving that.

quote:

Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

quote:

I think Trumps take on tariffs is way overboard, FWIW.

Don’t worry, he’ll keep reversing everything every 48 hours or so to keep inducing market waves. I’d sure like to be one of his & Elons insiders right now!

quote:

As to Trump's relationship with Musk. I predict an ugly break-up at some point.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
So, now you claim that Trump's words mean what he says.

Hummm.

Try proving that.

Defined, "You're right, Trump did shut it down and Biden opened it back up, but I don't believe him."

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by nute:

It's his treatment of Ukraine in halting military aid and even withholding intelligence and satellite imagery to force Ukraine to concede, whilst putting zero pressure on Russia which people find despicable.

Not just despicable, but inexplicable. If you start from the premise that Russia is and has been a greater enemy to the US and the West than Ukraine, you simply cannot rationalize Trump's actions. If you accept the stated premise, then every action Trump takes should be aimed at increasing Ukraine's leverage in negotiating for a peaceful end to the war and minimizing Russia's leverage in such negotiations. So when you see exactly the opposite happening, you have to believe that (1) Trump does not accept the premise that Russia and Putin represent a greater threat to the US and the West than Ukraine, (2) Trump is clueless when it comes to trying to negotiate an international deal, or (3) there is something Trump is trying to hide by taking Russia's side in the dispute.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Also, Steve, this has been going on for a long time, as well as the Rightist's spin on it.

Well, you're running out of spin.

https://youtu.be/W2DxiDNRhzc?si=n2xk0LWBr9ijtrVy

18 reasons why Trump may be a Russian asset

6 years ago

quote:

“We don’t need American money! We get all our financing from Russia!”

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by nute:

It's his treatment of Ukraine in halting military aid and even withholding intelligence and satellite imagery to force Ukraine to concede, whilst putting zero pressure on Russia which people find despicable.

Not just despicable, but inexplicable. If you start from the premise that Russia is and has been a greater enemy to the US and the West than Ukraine, you simply cannot rationalize Trump's actions. If you accept the stated premise, then every action Trump takes should be aimed at increasing Ukraine's leverage in negotiating for a peaceful end to the war and minimizing Russia's leverage in such negotiations. So when you see exactly the opposite happening, you have to believe that (1) Trump does not accept the premise that Russia and Putin represent a greater threat to the US and the West than Ukraine, (2) Trump is clueless when it comes to trying to negotiate an international deal, or (3) there is something Trump is trying to hide by taking Russia's side in the dispute.

. . . so what is your explanation Steve?

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:

This is something I have to admit. Pre election I understood why people rejected the dems, and even though I didn't trust Trump, I knew why he got the votes he did.

Now when I see how appalling he is being, And I never ever thought he'd be this bad, I have to say the dems would have been better.

But I am forever hopeful, and I, right now, hope the republicans realise how destructive too the US he's being, and at some point use the tools available to remove him with democratic help.

quote:

"Pre election I understood why people rejected the dems, and even though I didn't trust Trump, I knew why he got the votes he did."

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
“We don’t need American money! We get all our financing from Russia!”

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
“We don’t need American money! We get all our financing from Russia!”

Except for Russia has none.
I still don't see the attraction or use for Vlad. No economy, no real threat or danger, not even a leading producer of vodka.
What's to like?

quote:

Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
“We don’t need American money! We get all our financing from Russia!”

Except for Russia has none.
I still don't see the attraction or use for Vlad. No economy, no real threat or danger, not even a leading producer of vodka.
What's to like?

Don’t kid yourself - Vladimir Putin’s personal wealth would suck Elon Musks into its intake manifold. Musk owns some shit, but Putin owns a country bigger than the U.S. c/w all it’s resources.

The Russian people are neither here nor there, and Trump is SO damn envious.

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:



It would add veracity if you could demonstrate that. No, I haven't made a study of Vlad, but I occasionally pick my head up off the desk from napping to pay attention for a moment or two and I haven't seen much from Vlad other than ineptitude.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Trump has done things to weaken Ukraine's position and emboldened Putin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...b277dc870779d8&ei=19

Hundreds Dead: Inside the Trump Ukraine Fallout
Story by Simon Shuster/Kyiv • 14h • 4 min read

Interesting take when you juxtapose these.

https://2017-2021.state.gov/fa...on-to-nord-stream-2/

Then Biden...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674

You'd think if Trump was Putin stooge, just the opposite would have occurred.

you always try to find good in your trump president lol you will see the light eventually ...

And you do nothing but try to make ALL Americans look like douches. (Except the ones whom hate Trump.

Do my links support the "Trump is a Russian asset", or just the opposite? I don't expect an answer.

I think Trumps take on tariffs is way overboard, FWIW.

only tariffs, not the border cancel of 1908 nor the river negociation of 2018 it is a whole. your links did not say anything that contradict trump ... so sorry but you do not like what your president is doing to us so let do it clrealy instead of not being so clear ...

Regardless of how poorly some number of Canadians feel about America, I will never turn my back on a neighboring country whom I see as a Brother.

Mexico on the other hand, I hope we cross the border to eliminate the Cartel threat. Mexico allowed 10's of millions of illegal immigrants to cross through their country, heading our way.

In 2022 DHS estimates were that the TOTAL number of undocumented immigrants, from all sources, was 11.2 million. They allow Fentanyl, which kills literally hundreds of thousands, into our country, virtually unimpeded.
Annual fentanyl deaths in 2016, before Trump took office, were 9,580. In 2020, his last year in office, it was 56,516.
I believe we will find Mexico government and LEO to be closely controlled by the Cartels. As Pablo Escobar said "Silver or Lead."

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
This quoted post is worth reading again.

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:

This is something I have to admit. Pre election I understood why people rejected the dems, and even though I didn't trust Trump, I knew why he got the votes he did.

Now when I see how appalling he is being, And I never ever thought he'd be this bad, I have to say the dems would have been better.

But I am forever hopeful, and I, right now, hope the republicans realise how destructive too the US he's being, and at some point use the tools available to remove him with democratic help.

I want to reply, but I hesitate because I don't want to defeat the good (intent) in your post.

What's the difference in "hopeful" and optimistic, for example?

I can't even imagine how bad it will get before GOPers turn on Trump.

I'm looking for a video to link that says what I want to say, clean.

quote:

"Pre election I understood why people rejected the dems, and even though I didn't trust Trump, I knew why he got the votes he did."

My bet is that you really didn't understand or know why. You may know something superficially, but the depth of it is both simple and complicated, IMO. The simple is a segment of the people are vulnerable to the machinations of a populist. It's the same bunch that voted in Reagan but got more virulent ideological over time. Many sources fomented hate and loathing especially of Dems. Trump exploited the opportunity.

I don't know if the Dems lost their way or not, but their trajectory was and still is far better than the radical Right.

Here's a video that partially explains:

https://youtube.com/shorts/IX1...?si=9tolV79URP9k2O1K

quote:

Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by nute:

It's his treatment of Ukraine in halting military aid and even withholding intelligence and satellite imagery to force Ukraine to concede, whilst putting zero pressure on Russia which people find despicable.

Not just despicable, but inexplicable. If you start from the premise that Russia is and has been a greater enemy to the US and the West than Ukraine, you simply cannot rationalize Trump's actions. If you accept the stated premise, then every action Trump takes should be aimed at increasing Ukraine's leverage in negotiating for a peaceful end to the war and minimizing Russia's leverage in such negotiations. So when you see exactly the opposite happening, you have to believe that (1) Trump does not accept the premise that Russia and Putin represent a greater threat to the US and the West than Ukraine, (2) Trump is clueless when it comes to trying to negotiate an international deal, or (3) there is something Trump is trying to hide by taking Russia's side in the dispute.

. . . so what is your explanation Steve?

Oh,let me try!

American banks would no longer touch Trump, but “We get all the money we need out of Russia!”
But when we can’t pay it back with its extortionate interest, how, oh how might we?

U.S. banks see him as unacceptable risk, but the Russians see him as a good investment? Yeah, right - just not in the way you think.

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:

It's not good enough to rely on trump being terrible to get back in power, and not have learnt and changed. The dems have to step back from the precipice and meet the electorate at a more agreeable position if they really care about the nation as well.

And be more fucking intelligent.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:



It would add veracity if you could demonstrate that. No, I haven't made a study of Vlad, but I occasionally pick my head up off the desk from napping to pay attention for a moment or two and I haven't seen much from Vlad other than ineptitude.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/fo...ll-value-expert-says


https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/28...sanctions/index.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news...ident-100100129.html

Dude might be a scumbag but he is not inept when in comes to making money.