There were 274 agents sent to Capitol for J6. Many later complained they were used as political pawns.

https://justthenews.com/accoun...ocial-media-autopost

Too bad there weren't more and they weren't better trained and equipped. Maybe they could have stopped your cohorts' insurrection more quickly.

Too bad? That’s all you have to add?

Why were that many agents sent in plain clothes with no equipment? I am intrigued to know that answer…as should be all.

Yes, if it were deemed they were necessary…they damn sure should have been equipped.

Too bad you can’t pull your head out of your ass. It’s ok, though. You’re a brainwashed cult member and can’t help it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...olitical_commentator)

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Too bad? That’s all you have to add?

Why were that many agents sent in plain clothes with no equipment? I am intrigued to know that answer…as should be all.

Yes, if it were deemed they were necessary…they damn sure should have been equipped.

Everybody knows where you're going with this...you and your whack-job media publications that operate in la-la fantasy conspiracy land. Trying to deflect from the trumptards' responsibility for the insurrection and sedition on J6. Somehow it's the FBI's fault. What utter nonsense. Something only a cult member could subscribe to....

I don't have any idea what the FBI's operational plans were and neither do you or the author of your goofy article.

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
Too bad you can’t pull your head out of your ass. It’s ok, though. You’re a brainwashed cult member and can’t help it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...olitical_commentator)

That link didn't go directly to John Solomom for me. But it led me to this, which I intentionally started at Opinion Pieces. I tried to start at The Hill but for some reason it didn't work, so I started at the section below. Read The Hill section above if you want. That's where he goes bad. It's amazing to see such a long career which could be deemed within the journalism profession go sour per the cult of Dear Leader. He turned from a journalist to a propagandist. Perfect for Lane.

Such skill, such depravity, such waste.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...Trump_opinion_pieces

So half a battalion of FBI agents did zero to prevent Jan 6th.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
So half a battalion of FBI agents did zero to prevent Jan 6th.

As agent provocateurs they did exactly what they were there for.

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Originally posted by Huvius:

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
So half a battalion of FBI agents did zero to prevent Jan 6th.

As agent provocateurs they did exactly what they were there for.

Sure, they did.

And we know those citizens that raised violence to overthrow the election. Trump pardoned them.



This thread and the OP can go startle a billy goat.

Once again I am going to ask the question, why did the Capitol police not call other agencies for help, or did they call and nobody came

For example, read the report about the Pa. shooting that occurred a short time ago. In no time they had more than 30 cars from various jurisdictions and 2 choppers in the air.

I would like to understand why 274 agents, undercover, came to the Capitol and did nothing to help.

Nobody else has that question?

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Originally posted by ledvm:
There were 274 agents sent to Capitol for J6. Many later complained they were used as political pawns.

https://justthenews.com/accoun...ocial-media-autopost

What conclusion do you want us to draw from that bare fact? That January 6 was the FBI's fault because their agents didn't stop the rioters?

Is the FBI trained in riot control? Did they have the equipment to take on a mob that badly outnumbered them?

Who was president then anyway?

Or do you want us to conclude that the mob was instigated by the FBI? If so, you're not in the rabbit hole anymore; you've made it to Wonderland.

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There were 274 agents sent to Capitol for J6

There IS a lot of information on this from reliable sources:

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I would like to understand why 274 agents, undercover, came to the Capitol and did nothing to help.

Nobody else has that question?

Assuming your number is true. No. Agents are investigators. They are not riot control. We know the FBI provided information in those convicted of serious conspiracy prior to the attack. Oh wait, your boy pardoned those insurrectionist.

You know what would have helped? The President acting on that Intel and deploying the DC Guard as he has now done twice in two terms.

The DC Guard should have been the line in front of the Capitol. The President had the power to make that happen. Or at least mobilize them when the leader of the House GOP called him directly for help.

I want to know why 274 agents were there. Full stop.

I want to know why the setting President allowed my government, my election, and my Constitution to be attacked. Oh wait! I already do.

That’s just it. You are so stuck on your mantra that you have closed your mind. You have quit questioning.

274 agents is a helluva lot of folks at the Capitol and they were all armed.

They weren’t sent there to investigate they were sent on a mission. Anytime you mobilize that many folks…there was a mission. I want to know what that mission was. My mind is open.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

274 agents is a helluva lot of folks at the Capitol and they were all armed.

They weren’t sent there to investigate they were sent on a mission. Anytime you mobilize that many folks…there was a mission. I want to know what that mission was. My mind is open.

We shall see.

I asked the question - what was the mission and here's the answer.

Take it for what you think it's worth, with your glorious open mind.

Remember, this is a summary collection of many sources, far more than we can review or study in reasonable time.

AI Overview
The mission of FBI agents deployed to the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, was to provide emergency tactical assistance to the overwhelmed Capitol Police force and to assist in securing the area. Agents also responded to specific threats, including potential explosive devices, before the building was breached. Following the attack, the FBI launched a massive criminal investigation to identify and prosecute those involved in the riot.

Tactical response
As the riot escalated, the FBI's deployment included specialized tactical units and other agents:

SWAT Teams: FBI Special Weapons and Tactics teams were sent to help secure nearby congressional office buildings.

Hostage Rescue Team (HRT): The FBI's elite Hostage Rescue Team was deployed to assist with the crisis.

Bomb Technicians: Prior to the breach, FBI bomb technicians responded to reports of potential explosive devices found near the Capitol.

Evidence Collection: FBI Evidence Response Teams were dispatched to collect and process evidence at the scene after the attack.

Investigative follow-up
In the aftermath of the attack, the FBI's mission shifted to a large-scale criminal investigation:

The bureau initiated hundreds of investigations into acts of terrorism, rioting, assault on federal officers, and property crimes.

FBI Director Christopher Wray has since testified that the threat from domestic terrorism has been escalating for a long time and is not going away.

Context on intelligence and undercover activity:
Subsequent investigations, particularly a December 2024 report by the Department of Justice's Inspector General (OIG), have added context regarding the FBI's role:

No FBI undercover agents instigated the riot: The OIG found no evidence that undercover FBI employees or agents were present in the crowd or in the Capitol to incite the violence. FBI Director Wray also called this notion "ludicrous".

Informants were present: The OIG report did confirm that 26 FBI confidential human sources (informants) were in Washington, D.C., that day, with some entering the Capitol or restricted areas without authorization. None were authorized by the bureau to break the law.

Intelligence failures occurred: The OIG report and a 2023 Senate report highlighted intelligence failures by the FBI, which included not adequately assessing the threats or sharing information with law enforcement partners like the Capitol Police before the attack.

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In this search response there is the summary quoted above and also numerous articles from which info was sourced.

https://www.google.com/search?...gHSA&sclient=gws-wiz

I have an open mind.
Let’s review the hundreds of hours of film and see what they were up to.
There’s lots of redacted and “lost” video from the event. One could surmise that this could be part of the reason for that.

GREAT Let’s blame the FBI for thousands of rioters storming the building. It was obviously their fault for not interfering with peaceful protesters….

Amazing!

Politics has become the new religion of the 21st century.

It is RIGHT if we do it, even if it is WRONG.

It is WRONG if the other side do it.

Even if it is RIGHT!

And to top it all, this is what one gets as a LEADER1

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GREAT Let’s blame the FBI for thousands of rioters storming the building.

They should be under the same scrutiny that regular citizens were under.
If it’s true they they were there, is t it reasonable to understand what their function was?
It wasn’t long ago that you guys were claiming that there weren’t any federal agents present at all.
You’ve all been lied to apparently and dutifully towed the party line.

Can't speak for others, but I never claimed the FBI didn't have people there.

I just rejected your and others' argument that they were there for some nefarious purpose or bear any responsibility for the riot.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I want to know why the setting President allowed my government, my election, and my Constitution to be attacked. Oh wait! I already do.

Not if you’re relying on the Jan 6th committee reports.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
There were 274 agents sent to Capitol for J6. Many later complained they were used as political pawns.

https://justthenews.com/accoun...ocial-media-autopost

What conclusion do you want us to draw from that bare fact? That January 6 was the FBI's fault because their agents didn't stop the rioters?

Is the FBI trained in riot control? Did they have the equipment to take on a mob that badly outnumbered them?

Who was president then anyway?

Or do you want us to conclude that the mob was instigated by the FBI? If so, you're not in the rabbit hole anymore; you've made it to Wonderland.

Waiting on answers to these questions.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Can't speak for others, but I never claimed the FBI didn't have people there.

I just rejected your and others' argument that they were there for some nefarious purpose or bear any responsibility for the riot.

Of course the FBI had people there. It was their job to have people there for god's sake. It was a riot designed to overturn the result of a general election. The FBI investigates and prosecutes cases relating to sedition. I'm sure the undercover agents helped identify and convict Lane and Judge G's buddies who rioted and stormed the Capital. They were there doing their job.


>>>The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is the primary federal agency responsible for investigating sedition cases in the United States. It works closely with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), which leads the prosecution of these cases.
The roles of each agency:

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI): The FBI is the investigative arm of the DOJ. It conducts the fieldwork for sedition cases, gathering evidence and identifying suspects. The FBI's investigations are often broad and can involve coordination with its field offices across the country.
Department of Justice (DOJ): As the federal government's legal agency, the DOJ oversees the entire process. Its prosecutors, including those from the National Security Division and local U.S. Attorney's Offices, build and prosecute the legal case against defendants.

Recent example: The January 6th investigation
The investigation into the 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol provides a clear example of this collaboration.

Unprecedented scale: The DOJ and FBI described the investigation into sedition and conspiracy charges related to the attack as "unprecedented" in its scope.

Joint task force: The DOJ organized a "strike force" of senior national security and public corruption prosecutors to handle the sedition cases.

Collaborative effort: The investigation involved the FBI's Washington Field Office and other field offices, with support from other law enforcement partners like the U.S. Capitol Police.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
That’s just it. You are so stuck on your mantra that you have closed your mind. You have quit questioning.

274 agents is a helluva lot of folks at the Capitol and they were all armed.

They weren’t sent there to investigate they were sent on a mission. Anytime you mobilize that many folks…there was a mission. I want to know what that mission was. My mind is open.

There were 10,000 trumptards at your riot. 274 seems like a low number to me.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Can't speak for others, but I never claimed the FBI didn't have people there.

I just rejected your and others' argument that they were there for some nefarious purpose or bear any responsibility for the riot.

Of course the FBI had people there. It was their job to have people there for god's sake. It was a riot designed to overturn the result of a general election. The FBI investigates and prosecutes cases relating to sedition. I'm sure the undercover agents helped identify and convict Lane and Judge G's buddies who rioted and stormed the Capital. They were there doing their job.


>>>The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is the primary federal agency responsible for investigating sedition cases in the United States. It works closely with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), which leads the prosecution of these cases.
The roles of each agency:

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI): The FBI is the investigative arm of the DOJ. It conducts the fieldwork for sedition cases, gathering evidence and identifying suspects. The FBI's investigations are often broad and can involve coordination with its field offices across the country.
Department of Justice (DOJ): As the federal government's legal agency, the DOJ oversees the entire process. Its prosecutors, including those from the National Security Division and local U.S. Attorney's Offices, build and prosecute the legal case against defendants.

Recent example: The January 6th investigation
The investigation into the 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol provides a clear example of this collaboration.

Unprecedented scale: The DOJ and FBI described the investigation into sedition and conspiracy charges related to the attack as "unprecedented" in its scope.

Joint task force: The DOJ organized a "strike force" of senior national security and public corruption prosecutors to handle the sedition cases.

Collaborative effort: The investigation involved the FBI's Washington Field Office and other field offices, with support from other law enforcement partners like the U.S. Capitol Police.

Investigation is after the fact.

Your citations are about the FBI looking at what happened not an explanation as to why they were present.

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Originally posted by Huvius:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Can't speak for others, but I never claimed the FBI didn't have people there.

I just rejected your and others' argument that they were there for some nefarious purpose or bear any responsibility for the riot.

Of course the FBI had people there. It was their job to have people there for god's sake. It was a riot designed to overturn the result of a general election. The FBI investigates and prosecutes cases relating to sedition. I'm sure the undercover agents helped identify and convict Lane and Judge G's buddies who rioted and stormed the Capital. They were there doing their job.


>>>The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is the primary federal agency responsible for investigating sedition cases in the United States. It works closely with the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), which leads the prosecution of these cases.
The roles of each agency:

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI): The FBI is the investigative arm of the DOJ. It conducts the fieldwork for sedition cases, gathering evidence and identifying suspects. The FBI's investigations are often broad and can involve coordination with its field offices across the country.
Department of Justice (DOJ): As the federal government's legal agency, the DOJ oversees the entire process. Its prosecutors, including those from the National Security Division and local U.S. Attorney's Offices, build and prosecute the legal case against defendants.

Recent example: The January 6th investigation
The investigation into the 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol provides a clear example of this collaboration.

Unprecedented scale: The DOJ and FBI described the investigation into sedition and conspiracy charges related to the attack as "unprecedented" in its scope.

Joint task force: The DOJ organized a "strike force" of senior national security and public corruption prosecutors to handle the sedition cases.

Collaborative effort: The investigation involved the FBI's Washington Field Office and other field offices, with support from other law enforcement partners like the U.S. Capitol Police.

Investigation is after the fact.

Your citations are about the FBI looking at what happened not an explanation as to why they were present.

Not at all. And, they're not citations, that was a simple AI search. And, the idea that all law enforcement investigations are after the fact is just stupid. No other word for it.

Everybody knew what the point of that rally was going to be. It was advertised for weeks. Stop the Steal. The FBI would have been foolish not to have agents in the crowd. And, the idea that that they wouldn't have anticipated to need to have those agents there is absurd.

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Everybody knew what the point of that rally was going to be. It was advertised for weeks.

Then when Trump authorized the NG to be there…why didn’t pelosi, the sargent at arms, and the Capitol Police take the opportunity to have them there???

So, does the American public have a valid interest in knowing why they were there, who ordered it and why the infusion of agents was hidden from Republicans’ inquiries and not reported by the Jan 6th inquisition?

The Chief of the Capital police has testified that Pelosi, et al, refused his request for NG troops (and Trump's offer got the same treatment). Pelosi (on hot mike with her daughter) so admitted her fault.

Patriotically and peacefully.
Almost 300 FBI agents doing God knows what.
20,000 NG troops refused.
Jan 6th evidence destroyed or suppressed

Something is rotten in Denmark

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Everybody knew what the point of that rally was going to be. It was advertised for weeks.

Then when Trump authorized the NG to be there…why didn’t pelosi, the sargent at arms, and the Capitol Police take the opportunity to have them there???

They were probably there to gather intelligence, take pictures, identify and document insurrectionists, anti-government kooks and other MAGA factions. Sort of like how the FBI monitors organized crime events. I am glad they were there. It surely assisted in identifying and prosecuting the more than 1500 individuals that were charged with invading our Nation's Capitol.

Your word “probably” identifies the problem. We do know that the FBI had decided that in all matters “Trump” no means were too vile to influence the American populace that no good could come from the Right and Trump’s presidency. The ends justified the means. Laptop from Hell, Hillary not being prosecuted, conspiracy evidence in text messages, Russia, Russia, Russia, lying to Congress…. The list is long and growing.

“Probably” doesn’t cut it. You and I and America deserve more. The Left might not want to know why, but it’s time.

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Originally posted by MJines:
They were probably there to gather intelligence, take pictures, identify and document insurrectionists, anti-government kooks and other MAGA factions. Sort of like how the FBI monitors organized crime events. I am glad they were there. It surely assisted in identifying and prosecuting the more than 1500 individuals that were charged with invading our Nation's Capitol.

Why wouldn't the FBI be out in force at an event were it was publicized that groups like the Proud Boys would be there in force, where the rhetoric was about stealing an election, on the day the election was to be certified, etc.? To me, it would have been more remarkable to learn that the FBI had no or a token presence at such an event. Funny, on the same thread, we have folks questioning why the national guard was not there and why the FBI was there. Seems like a reasonable person would want a strong presence by both.

I am left wondering how that deployment was organized, and whether there was an intent or an effort among them to protect the Congressional representatives. Once the riot was inside, their job might have moved in with it, to protect the Congress. Hanging around outside while there was trouble inside doesn't seem right. I dunno...

It’s okay Trump let our Constitution be torn to kindle and led role propaganda campaign to motivate the actors.

He just sent federal troops to Portland.

We really did rebel when the Executive did this in Boston.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Why wouldn't the FBI be out in force at an event were it was publicized that groups like the Proud Boys would be there in force, where the rhetoric was about stealing an election, on the day the election was to be certified, etc.? To me, it would have been more remarkable to learn that the FBI had no or a token presence at such an event. Funny, on the same thread, we have folks questioning why the national guard was not there and why the FBI was there. Seems like a reasonable person would want a strong presence by both.

Exactly. The FBI was doing what they get paid to do as noted above.

And, it worked out exactly as it was intended. Lane's seditionist brothers got caught and prosecuted for breaking federal law. And, then they all got a blanket pardon from their orange shitlord.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Why wouldn't the FBI be out in force at an event were it was publicized that groups like the Proud Boys would be there in force, where the rhetoric was about stealing an election, on the day the election was to be certified, etc.? To me, it would have been more remarkable to learn that the FBI had no or a token presence at such an event. Funny, on the same thread, we have folks questioning why the national guard was not there and why the FBI was there. Seems like a reasonable person would want a strong presence by both.

Exactly. The FBI was doing what they get paid to do as noted above.

And, it worked out exactly as it was intended. Lane's seditionist brothers got caught and prosecuted for breaking federal law. And, then they all got a blanket pardon from their orange shitlord.

Exactly! “ it worked out exactly as it was intended.”

Hence the reason the NG was rejected! Thank you counselor…I rest my case.