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Read the whole thing... Link "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | ||
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An answer to your question is that it's worse than we know and have and can imagine. There is no bottom to this rabbit hole. It seeps all the way to China and Russia, into every corner of all the far right sects, militias, zealots, nationalists, Christianity, etc. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Didn't Eric Swalwell sleep with a Chinese spy? How many FBI agents and military have sold out our country? | |||
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NEITHER, JUST A FUCKING ASSHOLE CRIMINAL. | |||
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Is he still dancing the bang bang with Fang Fang? | |||
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For the last 25 + years, national elections have been a choice between the lesser of two evils. One could say accurately that while Trump may have been a crook in his business dealings, Biden is an INEPT old crook doing damage to the country NOW. Trump also was a former billionaire while in office, he didn't need to steal from the taxpaying citizens The Biden felony family Trust is actively enriching itself at the expense of US citizens, the Treasury, and the citizens of Ukraine... trying to become as wealthy as Trump. George Orwell was definitely on target. Avatar | |||
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If Biden is such an "INEPT old crook" why can't Republicans find even ONE thing he's done wrong, or ONE payment for doing it? Just bullshit allegations fed to them by Russian Intelligence. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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I don't think Donald is a conscious traitor. Not knowing right from wrong and having nothing but a populist "Huey Long" discernment of what is in his immediate favor, I think he is a lost imbecile with great wealth, power and an overwhelming sense of victimhood-- and pretty pathetic. This is what makes him so very attractive to the poor white trash on the far right. Boy, he sure made Mexico pay for that wall didn't he?  There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...80ffde17c3030&ei=131 The Real Reason Trump Loves Putin Story by Franklin Foer • 10h But there’s a deeper, more nefarious truth about people on the right’s baffling unwillingness to criticize the Kremlin: They actually share its worldview. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Well written! Taking up for slow Joe is a losing battle... Our leftists see it as a worthy battle but as,leftists..... Well,.....they have nothing else,to,offer.... L | |||
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We can find plenty.....you believers of the MSM......are just the worst of cultists.... If JFK where to run today you all would label him as,the anti christ.... | |||
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If YOU can find plenty I'm sure Abbott and Costello running the House Impeachment inquiry would LOVE to hear from you, because all their star witnesses keep turning out to be spies. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...bKa?ocid=socialshare As long as Biden is president, Trump says don’t secure the southern border ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Trump is simply a useless idiot and possibly/probably a traitor. And slo jo is simply a senile octogenarian. What a choice…  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I do find that much of what I read here and in other politicized portions reflects the divisiveness that warms the heart of Saul Alinsky, Soros and Putin. The more divisions, the easier one's enemy can be controlled. Look at the Bolsheviks and Lenin-Stalin. Useful idiots are those who cannot see that an open border, initiated by Obama, continued by Hunter Biden's Dad- damages the USA. Not just Texas. The I&N Act was created to control immigration after WW I. It CAN do the job. Being a twice wounded combat veteran, I tend to value the principles on which this nation was founded. Anything less is harmful. Politicians just may be the lowest form of life. Some Liberal Democrats are striving to be the lowest form of politician: i.e. Hilary Clinton or little Hanoi Jane Fonda. Avatar | |||
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Meanwhile, Trump says " Putin is genius!" Trumps sons were saying, "we get all our finances from Russian banks!"  | |||
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So, what do you suggest as a solution to divisiveness? Autocracy or Theocracy maybe? Can you accept the FACT that so long as Trump or anyone like him is in the political arena, with such support by his true believers and toady politicians, the no-compromise type of division I think you are talking about is inevitable? So, you think what Trump represents, his goals, are not contrary to the founding principles? Were the Founders zero-sum ideologically? Maybe it's those who are swayed by a demagogue politician with lies and promises of chaos and heart warming (or worming) conspiracy theories are the dangerous ones. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...3ba6922f26dde5&ei=74 He believes in power and chaos’: alarm as Steve Bannon plots to propel Trump Story by David Smith in Washington • 1d https://www.theatlantic.com/id...uary-6-trump/661439/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...1fe2e973b15a3d&ei=63 Trump keeps making incendiary statements. His campaign says that won't change. Story by JILL COLVIN and BILL BARROW, Associated Press • 8h ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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BTW, 450 Fuller, Did you know Bill Fuller? ========================================== This news ought to warm your heart: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...1fe2e973b15a3d&ei=58 The Return of the Clintons Story by Gabriel Debenedetti • 4h (excerpt) By late November, Bill found himself closer to the center of presidential politics than he’d been since Hillary ran in 2016. He and Joe Biden hadn’t talked in person in a few months, but he had been making no secret to friends that he thought Biden wasn’t getting the credit he deserved for his accomplishments. Tucked into a quiet corner of Air Force One on the way to Georgia for Rosalynn Carter’s memorial service, the 42nd president repeated the sentiment to the 46th, chewing over the unique challenges of the presidency as almost no one else could. Flying south from Washington, they discussed Biden’s obstacles in a political environment warped by Trump — how hard it had gotten to focus public attention on what Biden was doing and how complicated it had become to turn around the national feeling about the economy. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I own two pre-war Winchester Model 71s chambered in both 450 Alaskan and 450 Fuller. They come in handy when near my AK homestead land, or in parts of Western Canada. Cooper Landing, Alaska produced a couple of interesting wildcat cartridges that even PO Ackley said were superior in feeding/function to his own 450/348 Ackley. He was truthful. Bill Clinton came near balancing the budget prior to leaving his term of office. Generally, I do not care for Mr. Trump's personality. BUT, I like what he DOES, not what he SAYS. In Latin, it is referred to as "Acta non Verba" I am planning on voting in behalf of the Democratic ticket, just as soon as Harry Truman comes back to Washington. D.C. from Missouri. Not since Andrew Jackson, or his wife-has a President been exposed to such unequaled levels of partisan bile and hatred. The obstacles placed in his path would have long deterred another individual. Until Truman returns, I think it appropriate to vote for the lesser of evils, while my American sense of humor might applaud US citizenry returning a President to office -who was not allowed a fair shake in his first term. And then we have the debacle of the border issue- causing crime and international disrespect... I rest my case. Avatar | |||
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You mean actions like President Trump killing the bi-partisan Border Security Bill? You mean the inaction by President Trump on Jan 6 to defend the Capitol? | |||
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I realize this isn't on topic with the thread, but it's interesting and besides, the OP topic has been beat to death and boring. Long time ago I acquired a Siamese mauser action and took it to the shop in Cooper Landing with the intent of having a rifle built chambered in one of the 450 wildcats on the 348 brass. Mr. Fuller talked me out of that plan, So, I sold the action. Fuller suggested that I just went with a 458 WM, less feeding issues. Later, I bought a Ruger stainless long action with a magnum bolt face and the barrel I had installed is stainless, 20" long, 20" twist, chambered with a short neck. It's handload only, of course, but I like it and it feeds near perfect. Max bullet weight is 405 gr. I load it like a hot 45-70 at most but prefer the milder loads. I haven't used it much since now I'm not in AK most of the time. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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M-E: I know Phil Shoemaker, an excellent bear guide in AK. We correspond occasionally. We agree on the under-rated 30-06 (especially with today's bullets.) What we really agree on is the speed of lever actions in bear country, and the effectiveness of a flat nosed bonded-core 400 gr bullet on bruin. An angry grizzly must be STOPPED, many times with more than one shot- before it gets to you. The cycling speed of a Browning -design 1886 or a later Model 71 will beat virtually any bolt action rifle. It has been tested and proven. Harold Johnson knew this, and the lack of 45-90 brass encouraged him to develop the 450 Alaskan on the .348 case. . A shoulder shot will mostly stop an angry bear. Then you had best finish him. My last big moose was shot with a M-71- 348 Ackley Improved; a 35 Whelen ballistically which is also handy for bears. All of these are wildcats, involving reloaded ammunition. With Hawk or now defunct Kodiak-bonded core bullets-the Model 71s come into their own. Bill Fuller developed the 450 Fuller, very close to the Alaskan-but an easier 16 degree shoulder angle and slightly longer neck for reliable feeding. For really great thrills, I load 210 gr Nosler partitions in my 3 1886 rifles in 33 WCF. It is interesting to shoot stuff with rifles over a 100 yrs old... Ben Lilly carried one in the early 1900s, and he still holds the record for hound-hunted bears and mtn lion in NM-AZ and N. Mexico. PS-22 in is the shortest barrel length for 86-71s, as a short barrel slows cycling speed, robs velocity and ruins overall balance. John Browning and Winchester knew what they were up to. Avatar | |||
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That's the way I remember it too. We have common interests. I loaded the 400 gr Kodiak bullets when they were available. Got a moose with one shot, pass through, big hole, DRT. Then I switched to the Swift. At the time I loaded them warm if not hot. Compressed loads, tight crimp, resolved bullet setback from recoil, estimated muzzle velocity 2200 -2300 fps. But in my light rifle they were unpleasant to shoot at the range, though assuring in the bush. The recoil was so much that it busted the guts of a Leupold 1-4, aside from my shoulder. As I recall Federal continued factory loads with the Kodiak bullets. I don't know if still available. Later, I went to a 12 gauge 870 pump with Brenneke 1 3/8 oz slugs for carry. Never had to shoot in defense with that combo. I found the 458 WM to be far more versatile than imagined, especially with that tight short throat chamber. It's very accurate. I shoot reduced loads now, not compressed but it doesn't matter. A normal crimp holds the bullet in place just fine. I tried some sub-sonic loads, using Hodgdon Trail Boss. I was pleased. It's hard to get now. With that fluffy powder, I just filled the case up to the point where no compression would happen under the seated the bullet, no vacant space either. Very low recoil, very accurate. I recently bought a bunch of the Hornady 410 gr .458 bullets designed for sub-sonic handloads. I haven't tried them yet. I'll probably try to load them at an estimated 1500 fps at the muzzle, not Trail Boss, anticipating drop in velocity at target - 50 to 100 yds. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Maybe common interests and being American is what really counts. We need to get back to tolerance, common sense and cooler heads. Ken Burns Civil War presentation-in addition to excellent historical coverage-showed the folly of a lack of compromise and reasoned thinking. Something that Americans used to be good at-all the way back to Jefferson. ***** I have amassed a pretty good collection of pre-64 and pre-war Winchesters, along with brass and bullets for the 450s and the 33s/348s. More than my share of early Model 70s. Really enjoy quality made rifles that are accurate. Have a 338-06 and 35 Whelen in pre-64 M-70s, both having been re-bored and re-rifled to retain their stocks and include handy back-up iron sights. A must in AK where the far outback may preclude handy gunsmiths. The Lower 48-is overrated. Go West and North.... Avatar | |||
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