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13 June 2025, 00:19
wymple
Here ya go....
"If Joe Biden federalizes the National Guard, that would be a direct attack on states' rights." -- Kristi Noem, February 6, 2024
13 June 2025, 00:32
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by wymple:
"If Joe Biden federalizes the National Guard, that would be a direct attack on states' rights." -- Kristi Noem, February 6, 2024


Cute. Now go find the Obama speech where he sent 75+% of deported illegals through review not dye prices[sic]

What are you complaining about? Did you support Noem then? Whataboutism is the crying of the defeated left on AR

Dems are always mad when the law and common sense breaks up their plantations. Wow they hated integrating schools, and when deployed for the 92 riots


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

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13 June 2025, 01:23
LongDistanceOperator
I’ll bet you equate the founding fathers with people who went to war with America for the right to own people. Or better yet, for “state’s rights”.
13 June 2025, 03:19
Mike Mitchell
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by wymple:
"If Joe Biden federalizes the National Guard, that would be a direct attack on states' rights." -- Kristi Noem, February 6, 2024


Cute. Now go find the Obama speech where he sent 75+% of deported illegals through review not dye prices[sic]

What are you complaining about? Did you support Noem then? Whataboutism is the crying of the defeated left on AR

Dems are always mad when the law and common sense breaks up their plantations. Wow they hated integrating schools, and when deployed for the 92 riots


Nice try. Want to try to stay on point and address the hypocrisy illustrated by the OP?

Is trump federalizing the NG a "direct attack on state's rights"?

Or is it OK just because your Orange Jesus did it?

Keep diggin my friend.

diggin



13 June 2025, 03:42
jeffeosso
more whataboutism --

has what trump done been done before, legally?

Yes -- usually against dems

now, mike, address the points *I* made, not the ones you made up -- Did you support Noem them, as a font of truth, or is this an excuse to b!tch? I strongly suspect the later


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
13 June 2025, 07:04
wymple
"more whataboutism"

More pointing out hypocrisy, is what it is.
13 June 2025, 07:31
JTEX
quote:
Originally posted by wymple:
"more whataboutism"

More pointing out hypocrisy, is what it is.


But hypocrisy is all the left has?

Of course sane people will point it out animal
13 June 2025, 08:09
LHeym500
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
more whataboutism --

has what trump done been done before, legally?

Yes -- usually against dems

now, mike, address the points *I* made, not the ones you made up -- Did you support Noem them, as a font of truth, or is this an excuse to b!tch? I strongly suspect the later


Well, the S Ct., has told him about his policy w dealing w migrants is unconstitutional. A court just held the State of California is likely to succeed on the merits and Hale’s Trump’s deployment of a State National Guard.
13 June 2025, 08:13
TomP
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
more whataboutism --

has what trump done been done before, legally?

Yes -- usually against dems

now, mike, address the points *I* made, not the ones you made up -- Did you support Noem them, as a font of truth, or is this an excuse to b!tch? I strongly suspect the later


Well, the S Ct., has told him about his policy w dealing w migrants is unconstitutional. A court just held the State of California is likely to succeed on the merits and Hale’s Trump’s deployment of a State National Guard.


If Trump ever read Machiavelli he might know to send Tejanos to beat up Californios, who might be a little squeamish about beating on their fellows.


TomP

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13 June 2025, 09:16
RolandtheHeadless
Trump's record of litigation he's generated in four months in office must beat any president's four-year term.

I don't believe he's doing too well in the courts.
13 June 2025, 21:47
Magine Enigam
quote:
Originally posted by TomP:

If Trump ever read Machiavelli he might know to send Tejanos to beat up Californios, who might be a little squeamish about beating on their fellows.


Of course Trump never read Machiavelli's writings.

Trump's Machiavellianism is entirely visceral. (Def: relating to deep inward feelings rather than to the intellect.)

Machiavellianism (psychology)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...gin_of_the_construct

Excerpts:

Origin of the construct

Richard Christie loosely based some of the items of his psychometric on Machiavelli's prose style.
Adapting Machiavelli for psychometric use

In 1955, psychologist Richard Christie set out to study the thought processes and actions of those who manipulated others, such as political ideologues and religious extremists.[14]

And the next section:

On the name of the scale
While the construct is named "Machiavellianism", it does not refer to the political theory espoused in Machiavelli's books (also called Machiavellianism).[23][24][25][26][27] Because the two concepts share the same name, they can be confused for and conflated with one another, even though his political ideas are not relevant to psychology.[27][28][26][29] Scholars have asserted that the variable has no relation to Machiavelli outside of bearing his name, and that it has nothing to do with Machiavelli's politics.[28] Christie himself makes clear that he used sentences inspired by Machiavelli's works only as a sort of litmus test to study deceptive and manipulative behavior, and that his concern was not with Machiavelli's historical or political influence, stating specifically that:[30]

Christie stated that he chose the name "Machiavellianism" out of convenience seeing as other names such as "M scale" (M for manipulation) and "Ma scale" (which was used by the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory for hypomania) were taken. Names also considered were the "manipulator" or "operator" scale, but these terms had issues regarding behavioral validity. He also admits that by using the name "Machiavellianism", the scale would "create problems of public misunderstanding" due to the pre-existing political meaning of the term.[31] In a later essay, Christie even states that some have viewed the name problematic and that "the use of the word Machiavellianism to describe the content of the scales has been questioned".[32]

Also:

Relations with other personality traits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...r_personality_traits


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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

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