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Well, Fox liars are costing Rupert $787.5 millions- and admitted to lying just as the trial was about to start. Hannity, Carlson, and Ingram, as well as Murdoch were scheduled to testify why they lied on camera yet texted back and forth that they knew they were lying.  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | ||
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Million.Just watched it on the news a few minutes ago. Still a lot of dough... The initial ask was $1.6B | |||
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Of equal importance to the money is Fox finally admitted they spread lies knowingly. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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They had no choice but to admit to lying. The Judge already granted summary judgment on the falsehood issue a couple of months ago. | |||
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So they released a statement referring to their “commitment to the highest journalistic standards”. Liars gotta lie. | |||
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…and Dominion said they have others to go after for the same issue. Plus at least 1 other company squaring up to go after Fox too. | |||
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Time to pay up for lies but it's not nearly enough for the damage these pricks have caused...lots more paying coming.. | |||
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. . . meanwhile Trump still squeals about the election having been stolen and nitwits on here believe and regurgitate the same nonsense.  Mike | |||
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I will not be too upset if that selfish, stupid, bastard, Murdoch, is sent bankrupt! He has been buying politicians all his life. Only one paid him back properly was Teflon Tony who screwed his wife and get them divorced! Both of these individuals are the scum of the human race!  | |||
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My Pillow Guy who declared on Hannity, “I have the evidence.” | |||
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Crickets from the Fox/Trump apologists here. Wonder why??  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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. . . don’t worry, Lane should be along shortly touting “statistical anomalies” and other gibberish. Mike | |||
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What difference would it make if the supporters of one side or another here talk about proof or excuses?? It will change nothing. The SYSTEM is just plain WRONG! Look at Chicago! An utterly useless, stupid, idiot is being replaced by another utterly stupid idiot. Kids destroy part of the city and both deranged politicians are making excuses for them! Trump, who was instrumental in getting Biden in, is filling his coffers with “donations” | |||
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Murdoch is also the owners of the tabloid papers that are being sued about their pursuit of British celebrities, it's all about the money. Grizz When the horse has been eliminated, human life may be extended an average of five or more years. James R. Doolitle I think they've been misunderstood. Timothy Tredwell | |||
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I certainly understand taking 3/4 of a billion dollars in settlement. But, what a shame that we didn't get to see Hannity, Ingram and the rest of the lying pieces of shit that work at FOX get ripped up on cross-examination. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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And, of course, while the story leads on virtually every other network and news source, it's getting very little play on FOX: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/0...lement-coverage.html Wouldn't want the bamboozled fools who watch religiously to think there might be a problem with content. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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. . . something you will never hear from one of the Trumplicans on here: "I am so disillusioned and disappointed in the settlement. I believed that Fox was giving me fair and balanced reporting of accurate information. I have been a faithful viewer for years and what am I to think about the other information they have reported in the past? Why would they lie to me telling me things that they knew to be false? How could I have been so foolish to have bought into the Big Lie?" Mike | |||
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Fox is simply not as good at selecting the stories to lie about and are not as good at it. The rest of the networks should probably be faced with a class action suit for their reporting on Covid, but they won't. As a viewer, I don't want left, I don't want right; I just want the facts. I also want all of the facts. Probably won't happen though. Regards, Bill. | |||
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The only strong point with Fox News was their editorial policy allowed stories that other networks elected not to cover that were factual. If they are wholesale reporting false information, then they are no longer a journalistic source. However, the current settlement is about Fox op Ed figures. They were lying and they are admitting they lied, and that it damaged Dominion. Not sure I buy the amount as real damages, but they agreed to it. My issue with this is that the damages caused were not to Dominion, but to the public trust, and dominion really doesn’t deserve the compensation… the dollar amount is more about punishment that damage. And yes, it is deserved… but Fox shouldn’t be the ones paying it- the blowhards lining their pockets lying about it should. Hannity, Carlson, etc should be broke and living in section 8 housing for putting their income over the truth. | |||
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I'm not so sure about that. Do you think Dominion will be selling many voting machines in Red States moving forward? My bet is due to this false narrative, Dominion has lost a large market share that they once had a chance of selling to. That looks like damage to me. | |||
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You are clueless. Are you seriously trying to argue that FOX didn't profit by providing a platform for turds like Hannity and Ingram to spread their misinformation and lies? Isn't Hannity the most popular show on FOX? And, defamation damages include punitives. Which is utterly appropriate in cases like this one....media should be aware that when they lie, they'll be monetarily punished. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Actual malice which is reporting things known to be false is where the punitive s come into this case as Dominion is not a public figure (maybe a limited public figure). Punishment for intentionally, nationally spreading known falsehoods is appropriate. That intentional bad behavior gave birth to punishment or punitive damages. As far as Special Damages go, we would need to know at least how many contracts Dominion lost as a result of Fox News Malfeasance. I would not want to be the My Pillow Guy nor Lou Dobbs today. | |||
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I wonder what the lawyer share of that settlement is. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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https://ir.law.fsu.edu/cgi/vie...icle=2126&context=lr Here is a really good law review article on defamation law as it interfaces with the 1st Amendment fir those who want knowledge. The Focus is application in FL, but the Supreme Court Case Law is well presented. | |||
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Somewhere between 33 and 45 percent plus cost reimbursement. | |||
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Still crickets from the usual apologists…..  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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But several hundred million worth? I doubt it. I also doubt that shareholders will get much of it- it will go to bonuses for the CEO types.
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Did Fox News leadership know that Hannity et al knew they were FOS? I’m not sure as I haven’t followed it that closely. I still think that the rightful penalty should be borne by those who chose to deliberately lie. Like the guy who lied about Sandy Hook. I would question did Fox News tell Hannity et al to lie, or did they turn a blind eye to it? Big difference in my mind. I would hope Dobbs and Lindell get nailed for deliberately egging on folks even though they knew better.
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its not going to change anything. The amount of money in the settlement sounds like a lot 750+ Million. That is chump change for fox and Murdock. Murdock alone is worth 25 times that! That was essentially hush money so that the Murdock, Carson etc. did not have to testify under oath. All the fox news junkies will flock to them even more now and make them more money. | |||
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How many Counties and States are in red America? That is a lot voting machines. How much do they cost? Maintenance contracts? Sound to me like hundreds of millions in todays' world. I think Rupert was happy to agree to the terms, otherwise he would have fought it in court. | |||
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It is called Vicarious Liability. Employers are liable for the actions of employees in the course of employment. Oh, and Yes. Murdock knew these lies were being spread. That bit of information has been covered in real news. | |||
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I see this as a good thing. NBC paid out millions for their false news. I wish the Horse back border agents could sue the networks that screwed them over, knowing it was a false story. About time the media has it's feet held to the fire. | |||
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Murdoch knew that false facts were being spread… he asked that they use correct facts if irecall correctly, but did he know that Hannity, Carlson, et al admitted it was BS? That I have not seen. | |||
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Irrelevant. He is responsible for his employees while employees engage in the course of and scope of his employment. It is called Vicarious liability. Similar to it s hospital hires a doctor. Doctor cut off a foot instead of performing a lumbar fusion. You hire them. You buy them. He testified he knew and did not ask them to stop. Asked whether he could have told Fox News' chief executive and its stars to stop giving airtime to Rudy Giuliani — a key Trump campaign attorney peddling election lies — Murdoch assented. "I could have," Murdoch said. "But I didn't." https://www.npr.org/2023/02/28...-2020-election-fraud So, 1) irrelevant if you want to read up on Vicarious Liability and the Law Review Article I provided (Case Law is clear media is responsible), and B) shows Fox News Knowledge of falsity. | |||
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No difference in my mind. Fox News puts people on the air, they pay them to perform on air, they are responsible for the actions of those employees on the air. Just another example of you trying to sound balanced and reasonable but instead sounding like the apologist that I believe you are. Mike | |||
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Yep.. And the monetary bleeding isn’t finished. The next lawsuit is asking for over $2 billion and with this settlement in the bag, the next one is a slam dunk. Poor Rupert, he may have to trade in his current trophy wife for a cheaper model!  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Ironic isn’t it. Those here that are the most vociferous about the lying media and the stolen election disappear like roaches when a light comes on when their media oracle admits that it fed them bullshit burgers for months about election fraud. The stench of hypocrisy is overwhelming. Mike | |||
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Maybe he can take over the payments on Melanoma, or claim her for what Trump owes him for all the propaganda. She must have a couple of years left in her. | |||
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What’s funny is several years back Faux news in another suit said they were under no obligation to tell the truth to their viewers. Yet the morons continue to watch and quote what what they see on that channel. Ignorance is truly bliss I guess Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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