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Dr. Easter likes to talk about “real experts” and post folks from Twitter. Dr. Easter likes to claim President Trump would have prevented Ukraine. I see and raise with Professor Sarah Paine, PhD. She teaches strategy and policy at the U.S. Naval War College. She explains the post World War II order that brought stability and prosperity. An order President Trump tried to destroy as President. She expressly states, “If Trump had been President when Ukraine was was invaded Ukraine would be no more. We would have had Russian troops up to the Polish border.” That is a NATO War triggering event. Yet, Dr. Easter tells us, Russia is not a threat. President Tump bring reelected would mean no Ukraine/Russo War. The organization of trade through international law that was the end goal of post WWII is win, win that brings security. Everyone else should look her up. She has given the Marshall Lecture. You can find it in the Journal of Military History. | ||
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So then why didn't Putin invade ewekrane when Trump was preseident? Why didn't Hamas attack Israel when Trump was president? Etc, etc, etc? They had four years with Trump but didn't do anything. Explain that. Seems like armchair criticisms to me. ~Ann | |||
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Because Putin had President Trump dismantling the international order. Putin is not subject to elections or term limits. Everything Putin does is planned over a period of years not two year election cycles. You may not like it, but the post WWII international order has brought you peace and security. It has brought security and economic growth to those who have ran to it as insulation from Russia. I strongly suggest Eve go listen and read her. She is a real expert. She is not some hack on Twitter. She lectures to governments. | |||
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Trying to explain international geopolitics to Ann is like explaining algebra to a gerbil. Good luck. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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A Post-Western Global Order? | Sarah Paine (Naval War College) https://youtu.be/oEahPLq1qBU?si=Uf6uqCoa-ItbpUtK Are we risking nuclear war by supporting Ukraine? With Naval War College Historian Sarah C.M. Paine https://youtu.be/UUNYqAFrlFA?si=J9MEr7ocnUK-3EsK ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Or trying to explain DEMOCRACY or FREEDOM to American voters! | |||
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Speaking of experts!!! Instead of accusations, please explain it to us. Asking for friends, of course. My explanation is through an analogy and some metaphors. I saw a video recently about an old fiberglass boat a man bought to fix up and use. The video was about all the damage to the boat over a long time, and whether it was worth repair or just haul it to the land fill. It has lots of nicks, dents and cracks in the hull, and some previous sloppy repairs that were not holding up over time. Some parts were missing. So, after all was said, he took it to the lake to see if it still floats. It floated high in the water, despite all the flaws. The reason it still floated was because of the founding design conception - closed cell foam core sandwiched inside fiberglass shell. So, he kept it since it still had a long life ahead. The core is what kept it afloat. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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There was plenty of conflict around the world when Trump was in office, just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Insurgency in Chad Drug war in Ecuador Insurgency in Mozambique Civil war in Ethiopia Civil war in Cameroon Gang war in Haiti And prob a load more I can't immediately think of. Putin played Tump like a 1 string fiddle, why on earth would Putin feel in any way intimidated or threatened by the orange windbag. | |||
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I don’t know that Russia would have invaded Ukraine if Trump had remained president, but given Trump’s history, I have no argument with her conclusion that if the invasion had happened, it would have succeeded if Trump was in office. Is Ukraine an existential crisis for the US? I would say no, and thus not be willing to use strategic weapons in defending it… but the principle of self determination and nonaggression is certainly enough to support Ukraine. I agree with the Biden administration in supporting them. What I don’t agree with is how Biden is doing it. The technical details are my issues. So with regards to Ukraine, I’m a lot closer to Biden than Trump. | |||
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And since Biden has been elected nothing with those you mention have ended..... But under slo joe we add Ukraine and Israel..... Putin invaded Ukraine under Obama and biden, but he "played" President Trump | |||
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Not sure what you are getting at? Half. dozen at least popped up when Trump was at the helm, 2 under slo Joe ... so what ... there are probably a load more conflicts, the above are just what im aware of. Im sure there are others. As for Putin & Trump, do you not remember the "I believe him"... | |||
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And I would say the proof is in the pudding. He didn’t invade while Trump was POTUS. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...t7F?ocid=socialshare Are Russia and North Korea planning an ‘October surprise’ that aids Trump? Story by Courtney Kube and Carol E. Lee • 10h • 5 min read ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I say that proves nothing. I say you need to go educate yourself on the topic. Some of us never tried to provide you knowledge on the issue. | |||
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But, the guy from the country ruled by a monarchy is an expert. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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This kind of an argument establishes that your brain is pudding. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Hi, Ann. Glad to see you back. What do you think trump would have done if Putin had invaded Ukraine during his presidency? American boots on the ground? Never happen. I'd bet it would be more like trump trying to talk Zelensky into giving Putin the parts of Ukraine that Putin wants. And, cessation of US aid to the Ukraine in order to pressure Zelensky into making that happen. trump is a Putin ally. They're buddies. Same question on the Hamas issue. What? We would have sent US troops to help the IDF after the October attacks? Never happen. We just sell them the jets, bombs, and other weapons they need. There's nothing different that we could do to Hamas that the IDF isn't doing already. What would trump have done different? Hamas isn't scared of trump. They're lunatics. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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We have never mobilized to help Israel in its wars. We use to look at our role between Israel, Middle East Islamic Nations, and Palestine as fair moderator. We did not see Israel as a strategic ally. We hold very tentative international collision including Islamic Nations that recognize, and cooperate with Israel. Of anyone dies not believe that look it up. This includes Saudi Arabia. I fully believe all of that is self-interested against Iran. That is how it should be. Netanyahu’s policies prior to this crisis and his handling of this War jeopardizes that. No one here can dispute that Netanyahu permitted and engaged I funding Hamas to keep himself in power. | |||
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"What would trump have done different?" Kissed Putin';s ass a little harder | |||
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And of course we know that he “did” invade both under Biden and 0bama. My brain, whatever it is, serves me well. I thank God for it daily. Too bad you got the bottom of the barrel. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Uh huh....you just keep patting yourself on the back and telling yourself how smart you are...because nobody else is gonna do it. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Mike, I don't believe in armchair quarterbacking, hindsight, at all. Bottom line is, for what ever reason, those two conflicts did not happen under Trump. Personally I am glad because these things bleed our country dry. I also lean that liberals are far more apt to get the US involved in other wars very easily. I have differing thoughts on these things. I tend to think these are pre-planned. How is it the Israeli intelligence missed info on that Oct Hamas attack? I simply have a hard time believing they didn't know what was coming. You'll all disagree but that is what I think. I also think our govt was 'in' on all these things. Perhaps I am too disgruntled at my stage in life but I have my reasons and they are through enough experience I have very little to practically zero trust on what media reports. Another example is you all believed the tripe on covid. Hook, line and sinker and worse, knowing what it really was, there is no outrage over the lies peddled. Spring is a busy time on the farm so I have not spent a lot of time posting on AR. Were about to start haying here. Most of the topics here have been just boring re runs of TDS so I don't take the time to chime in. ~Ann | |||
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Those have got to be the most ironic two sentences on the site this year | |||
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Like Afghanistan? Like Iraq? The Gulf War? Grenada? | |||
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First, I would say that she is biased based on her preference for the known versus the unknown. Stopping our protecting the sea lanes if you support us against Russia plan, will have effects and change is not always bad. This may be a great change for the USA, Canada and Mexico at least. It will very likely significantly impact the US Navy and their budget, which impacts her and her friends. We just don’t know. Second, the American people selected Biden and Trump as the two best Americans to run for president, TWICE”. We can do better with a lottery, and save the campaign money wasted on this embarrassing country. Critics of Biden or critics of Trump miss the point that we need to fire the idiots who hired both of them, not just one or the other. Third, she lectures to the military who are 1 win to 3 losses in my lifetime. Can’t even make fun of the French anymore. Better than the Vikings and the Bills! Our new military motto. Lastly, if trump had been president fewer Ukrainians and Russians would have been killed because he would have just let them have Ukraine. Instead “We the People” gave Ukraine weapons to kill Russians and tricked Ukraine into sacrificing their young in the effort to fight back. Now the feckless Americans are going to let the Russians have Ukraine? How is that right? Who in their right mind would ever trust the USA? I would never trust us again. For further evidence, see our actions in The Hamas war. Fair weather friends does not adequately define our uselessness. | |||
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Let's unpack that paragraph a little. "her preference for the known vs the unknown." I presume you mean Professor Sarah Paine PhD is biased that way rather than Ann. You are correct. In the videos on several occasions, she demurs when asked to speculate or speak opinion outside her expertise and knowledge. That's actually respectable regarding her credibility. It's like saying that she prefers (bias) fact and evidence-based reality rather than what-if or theory. So, you criticize that, and the rest of your paragraph is pure speculation, which apparently is your bias preference, ended appropriately with "We just don't know". The rest of your post (last paragraph in particular) takes a shift from "don't know" to the tone of knowing, as in statements of fact. But the reality is that you are still speculating and worse - stating opinion as fact, no evidence, no qualifications, and don't know the difference. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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