Now we just need to build 10,000 new Federal courthouses and 1,000 new Federal prisons and we can prosecute everybody who ever lied on those forms.

Colorado has about 4.4 million adults, almost 20% use marijuana, legal under State law but disqualifying under Federal. Over the last several years Colorado averages about 500,000 gun sales annually.

100,000 cases per year, in just that State? Somewhere around there...

I bet anything you want, that you, and me, and practically any individual leading a normal life, breaks at least one stupid law every day!

And I am proud of it!

Like Trump, Biden gets his appeals and a search for a pardon. I am interested to see how the appeals courts handle the second amendment issue.

A country ruled by criminal families!

The Mafia would be proud!

But, but, but, Biden and the DOJ are rigging trials.

I know prosecutors that carry who use THC.

Hunter's mistake was buying from a gun dealer instead of a flea market.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
But, but, but, Biden and the DOJ are rigging trials.

I know prosecutors that carry who use THC.

I guess Republicans will be fine with drug testing before any gun purchase, right?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Hunter's mistake was buying from a gun dealer instead of a flea market.

I wonder why he bought a revolver.

I thought all the leftists would be pleased by the enforcement of gun control laws, even if constitutionally questionable. Hope Biden pardons him before he passes away. I don't think Kamala will be able to find the pardon forms.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Hunter's mistake was buying from a gun dealer instead of a flea market.

I wonder why he bought a revolver.

Personally, I like revolvers, but I don't fantasize about creating so many enemies I need 60 rounds for simple self defense.

What a revolver can't do napalm can, and it doesn't require a permit.

I heard on the news that Biden has ruled out pardoning his son if he gets a jail term. I only caught part of the news item - is this the case?

If it is true that shows integrity and respect for the judicial system.

Yeah, it's true, Nute. Biden said in an interview that he won't pardon his son if he's found guilty.

Does anyone here think Trump would do the same?

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Yeah, it's true, Nute. Biden said in an interview that he won't pardon his son if he's found guilty.

Does anyone here think Trump would do the same?

Let me think......

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

I guess Republicans will be fine with drug testing before any gun purchase, right?

No, but I would love to see drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients. I have to be drug tested at work so I can earn money so the government can tax it and give it to people who don't work. Why is it not allowable to test the recipent of those tax dollars?

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Yeah, it's true, Nute. Biden said in an interview that he won't pardon his son if he's found guilty.

Does anyone here think Trump would do the same?

Trump would charge Junior or Eric $2 million like everybody else he pardoned.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Yeah, it's true, Nute. Biden said in an interview that he won't pardon his son if he's found guilty.

Does anyone here think Trump would do the same?

Let's see if that holds true if Biden loses the election.

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Originally posted by Gundog 64:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

I guess Republicans will be fine with drug testing before any gun purchase, right?

No, but I would love to see drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients. I have to be drug tested at work so I can earn money so the government can tax it and give it to people who don't work. Why is it not allowable to test the recipent of those tax dollars?

Are those benefits based on living what you consider a virtuous life or are they based on feeding children?

You are not drug tested to determine if you are worthy to be paid, you are drug tested to prevent you from endangering coworkers or the public.

To quote Joe Biden "Hunter Biden is the most honest person I've ever meet"
Hate to see some of your other buddies "honest " there Creepy Joe

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Originally posted by sjr:
To quote Joe Biden "Hunter Biden is the most honest person I've ever meet"
Hate to see some of your other buddies "honest " there Creepy Joe

Have you seen the list of Trump's associates convicted of felonies?

Hunter Biden was convicted of breaking an unconstitutional law that his daddy and his party put in place.....

Democrats continuously do thinks that bite em in the ass...nuclear option anyone?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Gundog 64:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

I guess Republicans will be fine with drug testing before any gun purchase, right?

No, but I would love to see drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients. I have to be drug tested at work so I can earn money so the government can tax it and give it to people who don't work. Why is it not allowable to test the recipent of those tax dollars?

Are those benefits based on living what you consider a virtuous life or are they based on feeding children?

You are not drug tested to determine if you are worthy to be paid, you are drug tested to prevent you from endangering coworkers or the public.

Why do you support the use of drugs of welfare recipients? Keeping them on the plantation with drugs I guess?????

Do you think those welfare dopeheads are using that money to take care of their children?????

Seems to me that if we have to fill out that silly form it should mean something, with the emphasis on silly form.

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Originally posted by JTEX:
Hunter Biden was convicted of breaking an unconstitutional law that his daddy and his party put in place.....

Democrats continuously do thinks that bite em in the ass...nuclear option anyone?

Jim, just get back down into the shallow end of the pool and shut up. You are an idiot.

The only issue I have is a reading of New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, calls into question the constitutionality of the Fed act in question.

Fed Circuits are wrangling w it now. It will be decided by the Supreme Court.

Also, have always found it a legal stretch to criminalize possession to drug use, but we are just fine with possession to alcohol use; even alcohol use that is medically abusive barring an independent felony or disqualifying crime (Domestic Violence).


The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has already selected this theory of convection unconstitutional under New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen. This would be persuasive precedent, not binding, on the Federal Circuit that is within the jurisdiction of the Biden trial.

Since I am possible the only person here that has briefed the firearms cases before a court. I will say that drug use with possession of a firearm has been considered presumptively unprotected. This presumption was not taken away by Bruen.

What courts are finding is langue in Bruen is mandating various laws that disarm a class of persons not anchored to a legislative articulation that that individual person demonstrates a clear danger by the individual are not constitutional.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Gundog 64:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

I guess Republicans will be fine with drug testing before any gun purchase, right?

No, but I would love to see drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients. I have to be drug tested at work so I can earn money so the government can tax it and give it to people who don't work. Why is it not allowable to test the recipent of those tax dollars?

Are those benefits based on living what you consider a virtuous life or are they based on feeding children?

You are not drug tested to determine if you are worthy to be paid, you are drug tested to prevent you from endangering coworkers or the public.

Why do you support the use of drugs of welfare recipients? Keeping them on the plantation with drugs I guess?????

Do you think those welfare dopeheads are using that money to take care of their children?????

The median assistance is just under $500/mo.

Doesn't really buy a lot of drugs.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Gundog 64:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

I guess Republicans will be fine with drug testing before any gun purchase, right?

No, but I would love to see drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients. I have to be drug tested at work so I can earn money so the government can tax it and give it to people who don't work. Why is it not allowable to test the recipent of those tax dollars?

Are those benefits based on living what you consider a virtuous life or are they based on feeding children?

You are not drug tested to determine if you are worthy to be paid, you are drug tested to prevent you from endangering coworkers or the public.

Why do you support the use of drugs of welfare recipients? Keeping them on the plantation with drugs I guess?????

Do you think those welfare dopeheads are using that money to take care of their children?????

The median assistance is just under $500/mo.

Doesn't really buy a lot of drugs.

Not sure that the welfare recipients get cash either. Do drug dealers take food stamps?

At a guess Im presuming this law is to try get the link between guns and drugs diminished. I.E. dealing drugs and have a gun, then you are in deep shit.
If so then I understand it, and I dont think someone with a hi8gher standing in life should be in anyway exempt. Bloody well should know better.

Shanks, when you buy a gun here, you have to sign an affidavit on a federal form, swearing that, among other things, you're not an unlawful drug user. So it applies to much less than dealing.

Since marijuana is illegal under federal law, a pot user violates the law if he tries to buy a gun--and is subject to prosecution the same as Hunter Biden.

Thats bloody interesting. Wow!

Ive actually just sat the hunter safety program as Ill be in the states hunting this year. What occurred to me, along side laws like this, is that actually if you want to go hunting especially. Its actually more stringent and harder to do so, than is our system of sitting a firearms licence.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
Hunter Biden was convicted of breaking an unconstitutional law that his daddy and his party put in place.....

Democrats continuously do thinks that bite em in the ass...nuclear option anyone?

Jim, just get back down into the shallow end of the pool and shut up. You are an idiot.

That's all you got? Dumbass......

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Gundog 64:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

I guess Republicans will be fine with drug testing before any gun purchase, right?

No, but I would love to see drug and alcohol testing for welfare recipients. I have to be drug tested at work so I can earn money so the government can tax it and give it to people who don't work. Why is it not allowable to test the recipent of those tax dollars?

Are those benefits based on living what you consider a virtuous life or are they based on feeding children?

You are not drug tested to determine if you are worthy to be paid, you are drug tested to prevent you from endangering coworkers or the public.

Why do you support the use of drugs of welfare recipients? Keeping them on the plantation with drugs I guess?????

Do you think those welfare dopeheads are using that money to take care of their children?????

The median assistance is just under $500/mo.

Doesn't really buy a lot of drugs.

Any is too much for a reasonable person.

Again? Why do you support drug use by welfare recipients????

Its not productive???? Do you just want them more dependent?

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Originally posted by shankspony:
At a guess Im presuming this law is to try get the link between guns and drugs diminished. I.E. dealing drugs and have a gun, then you are in deep shit.
If so then I understand it, and I dont think someone with a hi8gher standing in life should be in anyway exempt. Bloody well should know better.

Your logic is correct shanks. But many of our jurisdictions are letting those that commit crimes with guns off and back into society. Wonder why that would be? Legal gun owners here overwhelmingly support serious and harsh penalties for those that commit crimes with firearms?????

Hint!

Lawyers ( the sum of our society) like repeat business.....

Gun grabbers want much higher statistics to support their agenda....

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Thats bloody interesting. Wow!

Ive actually just sat the hunter safety program as Ill be in the states hunting this year. What occurred to me, along side laws like this, is that actually if you want to go hunting especially. Its actually more stringent and harder to do so, than is our system of sitting a firearms licence.

We don't require any type of firearm license (at least in texas ) but to hunt unsupervised (without a guide, or legal hunter) if born after 1971 you do need a hunter safety course. Its pretty simple and is mostly common sense ( which isn't all that common amount our youth especially).

Yeah your hunter safety course is simple enough. But its also more in depth and covers a wider range of knowledge than our firearms licence test. Also until very recently there has been no link to lawful firearms possession and other offences. Unless they involved violence.

You also need the Hunter’s Safety certification to obtain licenses to hunt across state lines.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
At a guess Im presuming this law is to try get the link between guns and drugs diminished. I.E. dealing drugs and have a gun, then you are in deep shit.
If so then I understand it, and I dont think someone with a hi8gher standing in life should be in anyway exempt. Bloody well should know better.

Your logic is correct shanks. But many of our jurisdictions are letting those that commit crimes with guns off and back into society. Wonder why that would be? Legal gun owners here overwhelmingly support serious and harsh penalties for those that commit crimes with firearms?????

Hint!

Lawyers ( the sum of our society) like repeat business.....

Gun grabbers want much higher statistics to support their agenda....

Yeah, the Fed law never said or has any restriction to dealing drugs. The whole intent was the disarmament those on drugs as a pro se class of dangerous persons. You can disagrees all you want, but the language of the Federal law and its caselaw as controlling precedent until recently due to Bruen clear.

Jtex supports strict enforcement of gun laws. Until he disagrees w the gun law.

I just sent a guy up for 12 years do to trafficking. Final sentencing is in two months. It is the second longest term of incarceration achieved in our district. The other being 15 years by my boss.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
At a guess Im presuming this law is to try get the link between guns and drugs diminished. I.E. dealing drugs and have a gun, then you are in deep shit.
If so then I understand it, and I dont think someone with a hi8gher standing in life should be in anyway exempt. Bloody well should know better.

Your logic is correct shanks. But many of our jurisdictions are letting those that commit crimes with guns off and back into society. Wonder why that would be? Legal gun owners here overwhelmingly support serious and harsh penalties for those that commit crimes with firearms?????

Hint!

Lawyers ( the sum of our society) like repeat business.....

Gun grabbers want much higher statistics to support their agenda....

So how do you feel about a convicted felon possessing a gun?

Damn, don’t you just hate the weaponization of the DOJ? Trump must be beside himself at the obvious political persecution-NOT!

. . . haven’t heard much about “lawfare” lately have we.

Is your memory that short?

Until a honest judge figured out that Hunter was getting a pass on all previous crimes with his earlier plea deal and just a wrist slap, DOJ lawfare was going to be the same old double standard. Prosecute your enemies and walk your friends.