I think this cautionary video is important

24 July 2025, 06:18

Magine Enigam

https://youtu.be/7B-J89xKL7o?si=Ynzqx7MTAVGpb4rD

MADDOW DEBUNKS: Weird fake news, A.I. slop stories about her and MSNBC infect social media

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In part, the reason I think this is valuable information is because I've been using Google AI lately to ask and find answers to some questions, and to fact check.

I've been skeptical though.

I can see potential to get way off in la la land led by AI.

This is an emerging problem we should be aware of.

It's just another challenge layer, IMO, to sort things out. But I have been reminded lately by my far-right cousin that he doesn't trust any source. There are many people like that.

Being skeptical is healthy. IMO, total lack of trust just indicates that such person can't sort things out and has given up. That ain't healthy.

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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus

24 July 2025, 18:42

Bill Leeper

When you add to that the deliberate distortion and misrepresentation of facts to promote partisan ideology, it's easy to understand why people may have trouble believing anything they see. For myself, once I have seen bullshit from any given source, I mistrust that source from then on. So it is that I mistrust anything Caroline Leavitt says or anything Rachel Maddow says. Both have shown themselves willing to lie by omission, by distortion or by flat out stating a lie. Their politics make them incapable of simply stating the facts.
Having said this, I believe AI is incredibly dangerous. It feeds delusions and warps the worldview of those targeted. Bill

25 July 2025, 21:26

Magine Enigam

I did a search on Trump's BOTs:

https://www.google.com/search?...IBx4&sclient=gws-wiz

Does any left politician use BOTs

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Does truth social use BOTs

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Yes, there have been reports of bot activity on Truth Social. Wikipedia reports that the platform has been described as "like a conservative ghost town that had been overrun by bots". Additionally, users have reported encountering what appear to be spam or bot accounts on the platform. One user on the Google Play Store described encountering "lots of spam/bot accounts".

https://www.businessinsider.co...l&utm_content=topbar

I spent a week on Trump's new social media app Truth Social. I felt like I was exploring a ghost town.

Also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ted_States_elections

Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections

25 July 2025, 21:34

jeffeosso

Remember when Maddow was schilling the clot shot as perfect protection?

That Maddow?

26 July 2025, 06:35

Magine Enigam

Search:

Did Maddow claim the covid vaccine was perfect protection?

Results:

https://www.google.com/search?...701&bih=974&dpr=1.75

Note:

The first article in the results is from Fox News.

Infer what's logical from that.

26 July 2025, 06:47

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Search:

Did Maddow claim the covid vaccine was perfect protection?

Who you answering? I thought you were hiding behind your ignore list

26 July 2025, 07:17

Magine Enigam

quote:
Ignored post by jeffeosso posted 26 July 2025 06:47

26 July 2025, 19:30

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Remember when Maddow was schilling the clot shot as perfect protection?

That Maddow?

yeah - her words
https://x.com/mtaibbi/status/1...414979067904?lang=en

26 July 2025, 19:42

Bill Leeper

There were a lot of people whose credibility went out the window because of their Covid reporting. Maddow was just one of them. Bill

26 July 2025, 21:56

nute

I’ve had several YouTube shorts on my “ suggested for you” list which appear to show otherwise rational adults who honestly believe that abortion law in California makes it legal to kill a baby after (7 days after) birth.

There are people out there who will believe pretty much anything. As well as requiring an ID there should be an IQ test for anyone to be able to vote.

26 July 2025, 22:26

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by nute:
I’ve had several YouTube shorts on my “ suggested for you” list which appear to show otherwise rational adults who honestly believe that abortion law in California makes it legal to kill a baby after (7 days after) birth.

There are people out there who will believe pretty much anything. As well as requiring an ID there should be an IQ test for anyone to be able to vote.

is this an articulated deflection? Maddow was nearly crying over the efficacy of the clot shot. i am STUNNED at anyone with the most rudimentary STEM training taking it - at BEST it's a mitigating therapeutic with a VERY limited efficacy period

maddow says "it stops" - utter lie -- more than half the people i know that were actually diagnosed with covid had shot and boosters --

26 July 2025, 23:50

nute

No, I'm not offering any comment on Maddow, merely pointing out that some people will believe anything. As much as anything it was a follow on from Bill Leepers post.

Im not interested in getting involved with your disputes with other posters here.

27 July 2025, 06:41

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:

is this an articulated deflection? Maddow was nearly crying over the efficacy of the clot shot. i am STUNNED at anyone with the most rudimentary STEM training taking it - at BEST it's a mitigating therapeutic with a VERY limited efficacy period

maddow says "it stops" - utter lie -- more than half the people i know that were actually diagnosed with covid had shot and boosters --

Answering your questions in order:

No, Nute's post is not a deflection. The deflection is your posts.

Maddow was not lying. You don't know what a real lie is.

Calling it "clot shot" says everything needed to know about where you are coming from.

I caught the covid, and had to go to Canada to catch it traveling the Alcan. I had the shots and the boosters, and had to prove it, otherwise the Canadian border guards wouldn't let me cross.

It was a miserable experience because I had to suffer with it until I arrive at my destination. I'm sure I spread it even though I wore a mask. I traveled by ferry and stopped over to visit the DMV in Juneau.

I figure that because I got the vaccines the symptoms were tolerable.

When I arrived at my destination, I promptly visited the local clinic. I told them what I suspected by cell phone. They made me wait outside in the bus. They took a swab and confirmed. They gave me Paxlovid and the symptoms went away in two days or less. I camped in the bus. My buddies brought me food, but wouldn't let me in the dining shack to join them for a week.

Right now the nursing home where my brother resides has a warning on the front door, to wear a mask.

Make what you want from all that, but this is answering a diversion from the OP theme and point. SOP for trools.

27 July 2025, 07:37

Magine Enigam

This is jeffee:

https://youtube.com/shorts/tJq...?si=ZtJvsullHa1fJwh0

27 July 2025, 20:14

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jeffeosso:

Calling it "clot shot" says everything needed to know about where you are coming from.

I caught the covid, and had to go to Canada to catch it traveling the Alcan. I had the shots and the boosters, and had to prove it, otherwise the Canadian border guards wouldn't let me cross.

It was a miserable experience because I had to suffer with it until I arrive at my destination. I'm sure I spread it even though I wore a mask. I traveled by ferry and stopped over to visit the DMV in Juneau.

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Yes, calling it the clot shot shows my disdain for the therapeutic - actually understanding the science, I refused to take it
NIH says over 650,000 people reported adverse effects (AE) from all types/makers of the covid shot, up to an including death
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10009742/

i had it twice, first time, in feb of '20, felt like the flu, but for a couple weeks instead of days
Second time was dec '23 -- felt like a couple days of mild "cold" and entirely lost my sense of taste for 3-4 weeks --

Wife got it twice, with vax prior, and boosters - mild cold, twice

but but but but, honey, you said I was on your ignore list --

27 July 2025, 21:36

Magine Enigam

quote:
but but but but, honey, you said I was on your ignore list --

In trying to think of how your posts are relevant to this thread, you're on my ignore list as precautionary.

27 July 2025, 22:57

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
but but but but, honey, you said I was on your ignore list --

In trying to think of how your posts are relevant to this thread, you're on my ignore list as precautionary.

that maddow is a talking heard with ZERO credibility - you can't be this thick

oh, but you were crowing about ignoring me -- which is the lie?

27 July 2025, 23:35

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:

that maddow is a talking heard with ZERO credibility - you can't be this thick

oh, but you were crowing about ignoring me -- which is the lie?

Oh, I see. Now this thread is about Maddow's credibility, in your opinion.

The premise of this thread, to you, isn't about fake stuff on the internet, like deep-fake, disinformation, deception, etc.

Or maybe you think it's just another op to spread your own versions of it.

The only relevant question about the info she disclosed; is it true that some trools did that?

I figure what she reported is true. So, that makes her credible. Get it?

You, OTOH seem to be implying that she isn't credible so she deserves to be spammed that way.

I see that you are a special kind of dense. Is it sufficient for me to add adjectives to "ignore", such as selective ignore or absolute ignore? Do I need to explain the difference to you, since a demonstration isn't sinking in?

I can understand. You think ignorance, of your sort or sport, is not absolute, but selective. I think ignorance is what it is, no adjective needed, because you demonstrate it all the time.

Now, go consult your twisted dictionary on selective and absolute.

27 July 2025, 23:57

jeffeosso

thought i was on you announced ignore list -- you are a liar

YOU presented maddow as an authoritative source - i debunked that ..

you try to take it in a different direction.. strange, i'd have thought shanks teaching you several lessons MIGHT have sunk it .. you failed to meet minimal expectations, AGAIN

maddow is a debunked source of authority - and you continue ...

coo??

28 July 2025, 00:13

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
thought i was on you announced ignore list -- you are a liar

YOU presented maddow as an authoritative source - i debunked that ..

you try to take it in a different direction.. strange, i'd have thought shanks teaching you several lessons MIGHT have sunk it .. you failed to meet minimal expectations, AGAIN

maddow is a debunked source of authority - and you continue ...

coo??

BOO!!

I think you need to look up some words, again. You are either using them over your head or you're doing what Maddow had a problem with as she explained in the OP video.

Here's a copy and paste of who is on my ignore list:
4WD
Hasher
jeffeosso
JTEX
sjr
theback40

Do you see jeffesso on there? To my way of thinking, you being on the list makes me truthful, But I can see, in your twisted way, how that makes me a liar.

How does that relate to your credibility, among other things?

Shanks, teaching me a lesson? Like "new" lesson to add an adjective? Actually he taught or hardened an old lesson about Rightists' ideology. and the cause and effect relationship of that.

You - debunking Maddow? What is that - humor, farce, irony, hype, or lie? Hummm, I can't decide, so I'll just say all.

28 July 2025, 00:17

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
thought i was on you announced ignore list -- you are a liar

YOU presented maddow as an authoritative source - i debunked that ..

you try to take it in a different direction.. strange, i'd have thought shanks teaching you several lessons MIGHT have sunk it .. you failed to meet minimal expectations, AGAIN

maddow is a debunked source of authority - and you continue ...

coo??

Here's a copy and paste of who is on my ignore list:
4WD
Hasher
jeffeosso
JTEX
sjr
theback40

Do you see jeffesso on there?

it's right there... 3rd in the list .. liar .. scum.. waste of gravity

28 July 2025, 00:32

shankspony

quote:
Shanks, teaching me a lesson? Like "new" lesson to add an adjective? Actually he taught or hardened an old lesson about Rightists' ideology. and the cause and effect relationship of that.

Translated- Its everyone else fault. Im perfect and anything anyone says to me reinforces my own opinion.

28 July 2025, 01:08

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by shankspony:
quote:
Shanks, teaching me a lesson? Like "new" lesson to add an adjective? Actually he taught or hardened an old lesson about Rightists' ideology. and the cause and effect relationship of that.

Translated- Its everyone else fault. Im perfect and anything anyone says to me reinforces my own opinion.

Projecting - again.

28 July 2025, 03:38

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
thought i was on you announced ignore list -- you are a liar

YOU presented maddow as an authoritative source - i debunked that ..

you try to take it in a different direction.. strange, i'd have thought shanks teaching you several lessons MIGHT have sunk it .. you failed to meet minimal expectations, AGAIN

maddow is a debunked source of authority - and you continue ...

coo??

Here's a copy and paste of who is on my ignore list:
4WD
Hasher
jeffeosso
JTEX
sjr
theback40

Do you see jeffesso on there?

it's right there... 3rd in the list .. liar .. scum.. waste of gravity

what did i hear?
coo?

28 July 2025, 05:13

theback40

Do you see jeffesso on that list?

I hope you saved this.
That is some funny shit.
Just like his being a McCabe fan that he never said, right in his own post.

28 July 2025, 06:06

Magine Enigam

Yes indeed, two of the three trools who are still participating on the ARPF are on my ignore list.

If they weren't the system wouldn't produce this:

Ignored post by jeffeosso posted 28 July 2025 03:38 Show Post
Ignored post by theback40 posted 28 July 2025 05:13 Show Post

Do you see "Show Post"?

It should be obvious what that means.