trump's lawyers say case should be moved to West Virginia

04 August 2023, 05:39

Mike Mitchell

trump can only be prosecuted in red states, I guess?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...LKFSggEHSp2mttIwEZsA

04 August 2023, 06:01

RolandtheHeadless

They are venue shopping. I don't blame them, they have to take a shot at getting the case out of DC.

But I think DC will be proper venue because that is where the alleged crimes took place.

04 August 2023, 06:04

Mike Mitchell

I don't blame them either. The only way he avoids a conviction is jury nullification.

I hope they got a huge retainer up front given trump's history of not paying his lawyers and other creditors.

04 August 2023, 07:29

sdirks

I wouldn’t represent him if the up front retainer was $10 million in gold bars.

04 August 2023, 09:14

LHeym500

He won West Virginia by what a 1k votes. Of course, he wants it in West Virginia. His lawyers have to try.

Moving the trial to WV would be the next best thing to the setting the jury and holding the trial at the Republican National Convention.

04 August 2023, 09:22

MJines

. . . good luck with that. Change of venue ain’t happening.

04 August 2023, 13:10

Saeed

May be in Russia?

Where his master is a genius?

04 August 2023, 16:27

frankinthelaurels

Funny, they wanted the documents trial in South Florida where the crime occurred, guess that's tit for tat then..

06 August 2023, 11:48

RolandtheHeadless

Good point, Frank. Trump's position has hardly been consistent.

06 August 2023, 21:00

Huvius

I’d try like Hell to get it out of DC too!

This is how so many black men got railroaded, trial held in predominantly white, bigoted jurisdictions.

Knowing the political demographics in Washington, Trump won’t get a fair trial in DC in my opinion.

06 August 2023, 21:14

MJines

Trump can't lose in DC. If he is acquitted, he and his toadies claim he was innocent all along and now he has been vindicated. If he is convicted, he and his toadies claim he did not get a fair trial and all the judges need to be fired or better yet hung.

I never ceased to be amazed how seemingly reasonably intelligent people can get sucked in by his shtick including a good many here. Sort of frightening the level of gullibility displayed by some.

06 August 2023, 21:35

ANTELOPEDUNDEE

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Trump can't lose in DC. If he is acquitted, he and his toadies claim he was innocent all along and now he has been vindicated. If he is convicted, he and his toadies claim he did not get a fair trial and all the judges need to be fired or better yet hung.

I never ceased to be amazed how seemingly reasonably intelligent people can get sucked in by his shtick including a good many here. Sort of frightening the level of gullibility displayed by some.

BUH BUH BUT HIS POLICIES DON'TCHYA KNOW!!!

07 August 2023, 01:51

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
trump can only be prosecuted in red states, I guess?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...LKFSggEHSp2mttIwEZsA

Coal country, but not Scranton...

07 August 2023, 02:38

Scott King

quote:
Originally posted by sdirks:
I wouldn’t represent him if the up front retainer was $10 million in gold bars.

I sure as heck would!
( Did I mention Im a fishing guide and truck driver? Well suited to represent wouldn't you agree?

)

$10 million in gold would certainly be my price and I'd consider this to be a "hold my beer and watch this!" kind on moment.

A client just short of being as nutty as a Manson Family member, self incriminates themselves in recorded audio, video and print, not to mention three double tractor trailer loads of physical evidence against him,......

Oh hell yeah I'll take that gold, brush my teeth, comb my hair and head for court and the media interviews.

Come on Man!

07 August 2023, 02:49

jeffeosso

hmm, look, I don't think Trump could win, even if they had the trial in Deep East Texas

#dumptrump

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07 August 2023, 04:19

RolandtheHeadless

I have to differ. The most important consideration in a trial is the make-up of a jury.

I believe there are regions of the country where a jury might disregard the evidence and issue a jury nullification.

07 August 2023, 07:06

LHeym500

The biggest lie in our system is, “ Both sides just want a fair jury.”

No, both sides want a jury predisposed to agree with them. That is what Voir Dire is all about. Both sides trying to construct a petit jury that is predisposed to agree with them. I believe trials are won and lost in Voir Dire.

07 August 2023, 17:53

jeffeosso

Remember kids,

quote:
Voir Dire

is just fancy pants for jury selection

07 August 2023, 18:15

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Remember kids,
quote:
Voir Dire
is just fancy pants for jury selection

lol...."to speak the truth".....

07 August 2023, 21:13

ANTELOPEDUNDEE

I hope his antics get him a contempt charge and some reflection time in the crossbar motel.

07 August 2023, 21:34

MJines

I think it should be abundantly clear to anyone with a functioning brain stem at this point that the man is 8 year old in an old fat man's body. Some of his latest Truth Social posts . . . no mature person talks like that.

07 August 2023, 21:49

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I think it should be abundantly clear to anyone with a functioning brain stem at this point that the man is 8 year old in an old fat man's body. Some of his latest Truth Social posts . . . no mature person talks like that.

Your description fits the average American voter.

In both parties!

07 August 2023, 23:08

DRG

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
hmm, look, I don't think Trump could win, even if they had the trial in Deep East Texas

Putin offered to host the trial....DJT is moving there anyway. It's just a matter of when he goes home to pappa.

07 August 2023, 23:11

nute

quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
The biggest lie in our system is, “ Both sides just want a fair jury.”

No, both sides want a jury predisposed to agree with them. That is what Voir Dire is all about. Both sides trying to construct a petit jury that is predisposed to agree with them. I believe trials are won and lost in Voir Dire.

That has always struck me as odd about the US system.

Ours are selected at random and you get the jury you get unless any individual is ineligible.

07 August 2023, 23:39

ANTELOPEDUNDEE

I wonder how many try to get on a jury with the sole purpose of finding the defendant guilty? If it gets that far, anyone casting a guilty vote in drumpf's trial should expect to get viciously harassed by his brain dead minions or possibly even physically assaulted.

08 August 2023, 03:18

jeffeosso

Breaking news -
Trump to be tried as an Adult

08 August 2023, 03:22

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Remember kids,
quote:
Voir Dire
is just fancy pants for jury selection

lol...."to speak the truth".....

yes, Mike, I know the literal translation, but the context is jury selection ..

Here, let's try a thing
"to speak the truth" in place of voir dire

quote:
No, both sides want a jury predisposed to agree with them. That is what to speak the truth is all about. Both sides trying to construct a petit jury that is predisposed to agree with them. I believe trials are won and lost in to speak the truth.

and "jury selection"

quote:
No, both sides want a jury predisposed to agree with them. That is what jury selection is all about. Both sides trying to construct a petit jury that is predisposed to agree with them. I believe trials are won and lost in jury selection.

funny, aint it?

08 August 2023, 04:45

wymple

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Breaking news -
Trump to be tried as an Adult

Why?

08 August 2023, 05:45

RolandtheHeadless

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Breaking news -
Trump to be tried as an Adult

LMAO!

08 August 2023, 06:16

sdirks

quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
quote:
Originally posted by sdirks:
I wouldn’t represent him if the up front retainer was $10 million in gold bars.

I sure as heck would!
( Did I mention Im a fishing guide and truck driver? Well suited to represent wouldn't you agree? )

$10 million in gold would certainly be my price and I'd consider this to be a "hold my beer and watch this!" kind on moment.

A client just short of being as nutty as a Manson Family member, self incriminates themselves in recorded audio, video and print, not to mention three double tractor trailer loads of physical evidence against him,......

Oh hell yeah I'll take that gold, brush my teeth, comb my hair and head for court and the media interviews.

Come on Man!

Well, I’m a lawyer, and one who cares about his reputation in the community. There isn’t enough money in the world to make me willing to chain my name to his. Even if TFG did end up being my last client ever— as he surely would be.

08 August 2023, 07:34

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
The biggest lie in our system is, “ Both sides just want a fair jury.”

No, both sides want a jury predisposed to agree with them. That is what Voir Dire is all about. Both sides trying to construct a petit jury that is predisposed to agree with them. I believe trials are won and lost in Voir Dire.

Soon as they find out I'm an engineer, I can go home. Just like clockwork...