https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...58655c92703a34&ei=37

Drag out the old thoughts & prayers. Move on.

Time will tell but it sounds like another deranged and angry "trans" freak targeting Christians.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Time will tell but it sounds like another deranged and angry "trans" freak targeting Christians.

What on earth?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Time will tell but it sounds like another deranged and angry "trans" freak targeting Christians.

What on earth?

She can’t help. She’s a trump fan.

Shooter was Robin, formerly Robert, Qestman.

Definitely time to recognize the mental problems of "trans".

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Definitely time to recognize the mental problems of "trans".

You're saying that trans people should not be allowed to buy firearms?

Just a quick Google AI overview....I'm sure it's wrong and Ann will provide us with alternate data from what is no doubt her vast trove of on-line misinformation:

"Of thousands of mass shootings recorded since 2014, trans or nonbinary people have been involved in fewer than ten, or less than one-tenth of one percent. This minuscule proportion is often cited in online misinformation campaigns to falsely blame the transgender community for mass violence, despite data showing the vast majority of mass shooters are cisgender men."

Just to follow Ann's reasoning to it's logical conclusion: if 97% of mass shootings are carried out by men.....what's the remedy?

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Originally posted by wymple:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...58655c92703a34&ei=37

Drag out the old thoughts & prayers. Move on.

What's your point? And solution?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Time will tell but it sounds like another deranged and angry "trans" freak targeting Christians.

What on earth?

Your question was answered

The shooter: The police chief said the shooter was in his early 20s, did not have an extensive known criminal history and acted alone, but did not release any other information. A law enforcement official told The Associated Press that authorities identified the shooter as Robin Westman. That official was not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Leaked to the AP

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The shooter: The police chief said the shooter was in his early 20s, did not have an extensive known criminal history and acted alone, but did not release any other information. A law enforcement official told The Associated Press that authorities identified the shooter as Robin Westman. That official was not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Leaked to the AP

*her

Tell it to the AP.

My point is that absolutely nothing will be done outside of thoughts & prayers. A bit of a pattern there. The only thing that IS ever done is the relaxing or complete elimination of gun laws thanks to the 2A crowd. They're still pissed over background checks, waiting periods & mag limits & silencer bans. At this point, doing anything would be a step forward.

Defunding the police will help!

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Tell it to the AP.

Aww.. never own a mistake, but I expect you to live up to that "standard" in the future. what a trademark. If you called them a him, you will get canceled for dead naming. Modern practice is to use pronouns of the persons choice and/or presented gender. But I didn't go to a Bible school that had a federal exception on title IX to legally discriminate against people based on their sexuality.

Good lord, to think TAMU is MORE liberal than anywhere else?

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Originally posted by theback40:
Defunding the police will help!

DANG IT, I just blew dr pepper through my nose... zero sugar, of course

I would be putting a Fed spending bill before a president to provide states with funding to higher LE, not retired part time folks, on every campus to provide security with funding requiring the adaptation of best practice protocols and training to obtain funds.

I would put a tax of .50 cents on every firearm and box of ammo sold to pay for it.

Since, all schools would receive the funds, the S. Ct., would not prevent the states to dispersing funds to religious and non religious schools. The only requirement being the adoption of best practice protocols and training (yearly). The states would have to monitor the implementation of protocol and training to continue to receive funding statewide and per school.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I would be putting a Fed spending bill before a president to provide states with funding to higher LE, not retired part time folks, on every campus to provide security with funding requiring the adaptation of best practice protocols and training to obtain funds.

I would put a tax of .50 cents on every firearm and box of ammo sold to pay for it.

Since, all schools would receive the funds, the S. Ct., would not prevent the states to dispersing funds to religious and non religious schools. The only requirement being the adoption of best practice protocols and training (yearly). The states would have to monitor the implementation of protocol and training to continue to receive funding statewide and per school.

So, while you danced around it, guns in schools?

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/...n/story?id=125029777

ABC is reporting that this person changed their name. ABC does not come out and call the person trans. However, with all the reporting coming it is more than probable this murder was a trans woman.

She also liked German Rock Music. The same band as the Columbian killers.

I guess we need to ban Rammstein. Why not, Trump by executive order has already voided the 1st Amendment.


I would not arm teachers. We had a state school mass killing. After LE breached and neutralized a school employee illegally armed, came around the corner pointing a handgun at search and kill law enforcement. That is not good. I also have no good idea to prevent that scenario. I’ve tried. The best I can come up w is allowing teacher carry who pass the state police firearms qualification exam both classroom and live fire. Such a law would be state level, and require the jurisdiction’s state police to provide that training. Again, I ultimately come down on no, because I do not think that prevents good guys who are engaged across coordination from shooting one another when a search and kill is on.

Put the officers at the campuses. Quick professional response which may act as a deterrent. Of course, the Fed legislation I have outlined would provide front screws metal detectors.

I do think school districts are learning.

My old school rebuilt their front entrance. It is electric lock secured, and when you are buzzed in, you step into a concrete block, area. There you are buzzed in again declaring your name and purpose.

Now, for after hour events like drama club presentation, the main doors are open. We do not have funding for SRI (School Resource Officer) to be at all end of day events. My local two school birds are working on that.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/...n/story?id=125029777

ABC is reporting that this person changed their name. ABC does not come out and call the person trans. However, with all the reporting coming it is more than probable this murder was a trans woman.

She also liked German Rock Music. The same band as the Columbian killers.

I guess we need to ban Rammstein. Why not, Trump by executive order has already voided the 1st Amendment.

*she

She

Nope, it is/was a dude. Mentally ill.

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Originally posted by wymple:
The only thing that IS ever done is the relaxing or complete elimination of gun laws thanks to the 2A crowd.

Relaxed or eliminated gun laws? Yeah, right. Bright you aren't.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Nope, it is/was a dude. Mentally ill.

WTF difference does it make if the person was trans assuming that is correct? Isn't everybody that shoots up a school and kills children mentally ill? Assuming he was trans, what possible reason could you have for blaming it on that? What's the point? To demonize other trans people would be my guess? We can assume from now on that all trans people are potential mass murderers?

You are some piece of misguided work.

If you do not like trans people, it makes a big difference.

. . . there have been 339 mass shootings in the US this year. Ann's cute little meme identified 7 involving individuals alleged to be "transgender". And the cute meme did not identify any time frame for the 7 listed, e.g., 2025, or 2024 or whenever. So if we give the meme creator credit for accurately identifying all 7 as trans and that they all occurred in 2025 . . . neither assumption I feel is likely correct . . . 2% of the mass shootings this year have been committed by transgender individuals. Sounds like maybe we ought to focus on the other 98%.

The best option we have to protect our schools does not care about the shooters’s gender.

We have got to get serious and trained law enforcement on our school campuses.

The only think stopping it is money.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
If you do not like trans people, it makes a big difference.

I dunno. I'm sure you're right.

I bet Ann doesn't even know any trans people. I know I don't. I also bet (or at least hope) that Ann would probably be fine with any trans people if she ever met one. Or, would at least treat them decently. I bet she would. At the end of the day, they're just people who have issues....just like most people. Demonizing them because of their sexual orientation isn't right. Sorry. Woke Shit or more likely, basic human decency shit.

Many of us (me included) demonize folks we don't know. We all ought to try to do better.

. . . and of the 339 mass shootings this year, all have involved . . . drum roll . . . guns. But hey let's get serious about the mass shooting issue and ban trans from buying guns.

What is very odd is that we spend all this time arguing about a segment of the population that is 0.3%-0.5% of the population of the world. It has replaced the abortion issue in the minds of the conservative zealots who need a cause now that they've won on abortion.

Now, trans people are the enemy in the culture wars that sustain the republicans which is based on the idea of who you can hate, rather than how you can come together.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
What is very odd is that we spend all this time arguing about a segment of the population that is 0.3%-0.5% of the population of the world. It has replaced the abortion issue in the minds of the conservative zealots who need a cause now that they've won on abortion.

Now, trans people are the enemy in the culture wars that sustain the republicans which is based on the idea of who you can hate, rather than how you can come together.

Yeah, conservative zealots bad !

Liberal zealots good.

. . . or maybe, all zealots suck.

So very sad!

I really HATE to see things like this.

Totally pointless.

Just because a deranged individual - regardless of what or who he is - kills innocent people.

Both the trans and ultra religious have their problems.

But I would guess this is happening because of the break down of society around them.

And of course what Mike said above about zealots is true too!

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
What is very odd is that we spend all this time arguing .

Kids died, kids shot, background of the killer is important. Many things can be true at once

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
If you do not like trans people, it makes a big difference.

I dunno. I'm sure you're right.

I bet Ann doesn't even know any trans people. I know I don't. I also bet (or at least hope) that Ann would probably be fine with any trans people if she ever met one. Or, would at least treat them decently. I bet she would. At the end of the day, they're just people who have issues....just like most people. Demonizing them because of their sexual orientation isn't right. Sorry. Woke Shit or more likely, basic human decency shit.

Many of us (me included) demonize folks we don't know. We all ought to try to do better.

I am aware of knowing one, from before the change and after.
There were problems on both sides of the divide, in this case.
A friend opined that there would be regrets later. I dunno...