https://apnews.com/article/ven...a79fb88bd991a8ed705a

Let's see how the faithful left can spin this one.

A drop in the bucket.

Grizz

They should be using C5’s, and I wouldn’t be flying it unless every damn one of those illegals was handcuffed to a chain running the length of the floor.

Once word got around that the only thing awaiting them was an uncomfortable ride home, they might stop coming.

You fellas are missing the greater point here.

They are being deported simply because they came from a socialist, predatory government. They are on their way home because they will never again vote for a Democrat socialist, here or there.

They offer nothing to the Democrats, so their gone.

So what might they bring back on the return trip to help offset the cost of these flights?

I remain just thrilled that our government stays eyeball deep in Eastern Hemisphere "foreign entanglements" the don't understand at all instead of solving Western Hemisphere and Homeland Security disasters.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
You fellas are missing the greater point here.

They are being deported simply because they came from a socialist, predatory government. They are on their way home because they will never again vote for a Democrat socialist, here or there.

They offer nothing to the Democrats, so their gone.

Outstanding point.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
You fellas are missing the greater point here.

They are being deported simply because they came from a socialist, predatory government. They are on their way home because they will never again vote for a Democrat socialist, here or there.

They offer nothing to the Democrats, so their gone.

Outstanding point.

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What? The there, their they're?

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
You fellas are missing the greater point here.

They are being deported simply because they came from a socialist, predatory government. They are on their way home because they will never again vote for a Democrat socialist, here or there.

They offer nothing to the Democrats, so their gone.

Outstanding point.

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What? The there, their they're?

Yea, I'm imperfect and can freely admit it. Rather than make some lame excuse, I own it.

Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



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quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



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My comment was light-hearted as indicated by the winky. I'll forgive anyone a typo as I've made many myself. Never caught the first one, but the second was intentional since I used it at a site where the shit word wouldn't have been acceptable.

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



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Well, 'yore' comment inspired him to fix his grammar.

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



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Ty -

I do find it interesting that none of the progressive leftists in here are commenting or disputing my claims.

The spin I got on another site was amusing.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



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Ty -

I do find it interesting that none of the progressive leftists in here are commenting or disputing my claims.

The spin I got on another site was amusing.

I find it interesting that you would criticize the illegal immigrants being flown home, if a Republican administration was doing it you would be delighted.

Your spin on things is quite amusing.

It's amazing that actually removing illegal foreign nationals is so unusual now that it's considered newsworthy.

I also wonder if the diplomacy in reaching this agreement included America paying Venezuela to take back their flotsam & jetsam.


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quote:

Originally posted by skb:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



.

Ty -

I do find it interesting that none of the progressive leftists in here are commenting or disputing my claims.

The spin I got on another site was amusing.

I find it interesting that you would criticize the illegal immigrants being flown home, if a Republican administration was doing it you would be delighted.

Your spin on things is quite amusing.

You familiar with Occams Razor?

They're going back because they will not prove be reliable Democrat voters.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by skb:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



.

Ty -

I do find it interesting that none of the progressive leftists in here are commenting or disputing my claims.

The spin I got on another site was amusing.

I find it interesting that you would criticize the illegal immigrants being flown home, if a Republican administration was doing it you would be delighted.

Your spin on things is quite amusing.

You familiar with Occams Razor?

They're going back because they will not prove be reliable Democrat voters.

Of course that is the MAGA spin, not based in reality. You should try reality sometime, it may not affirm your world view but we do not grow by living in an echo chamber.

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Originally posted by skb:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by skb:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



.

Ty -

I do find it interesting that none of the progressive leftists in here are commenting or disputing my claims.

The spin I got on another site was amusing.

I find it interesting that you would criticize the illegal immigrants being flown home, if a Republican administration was doing it you would be delighted.

Your spin on things is quite amusing.

You familiar with Occams Razor?

They're going back because they will not prove be reliable Democrat voters.

Of course that is the MAGA spin, not based in reality. You should try reality sometime, it may not affirm your world view but we do not grow by living in an echo chamber.

OK, whats your assessment on why only Venezuelans are being sent home?

Why not the 2000 Chinese nationals?

Why not the 685 Afghans?

Why not El Salvadorans or Guatemalans?

Why only immigrants from a hostile socialist country? The people tried to vote out a Socialist despot from a failed economic model.

What country had the largest number of illegal immigrants enter our Southern border last month? Venezuela

Are you saying that China is not a Socialist Country?

They can send them all home as far as I am concerned but you trying link the Democrats to the Socialists in Venezuela is simply absurd. The Democrats are no more Socialists than the Republican are Fascists. Simply hyperbole.

Try reality....you might actually like it.

Well actually, a fair number of Democrats are socialists and a fair number of Republicans are fascists.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by skb:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



.

Ty -

I do find it interesting that none of the progressive leftists in here are commenting or disputing my claims.

The spin I got on another site was amusing.

I find it interesting that you would criticize the illegal immigrants being flown home, if a Republican administration was doing it you would be delighted.

Your spin on things is quite amusing.

You familiar with Occams Razor?

They're going back because they will not prove be reliable Democrat voters.

Can you back up that assertion with something besides a guess?

You have some evidence that they were interviewed and didn't respond properly?

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomas "Ty" Beaham:
Hey Steve,

Take a glance at this nitpicker's signature line...

I mean seriously.

The first and last words of the sentence are misspelled.

Yet, the average person won't discount everything in between.

Ironic, transparent, or foolish, take your pick.



.

Well, 'yore' comment inspired him to fix his grammar.

It was spelling and not grammar. I did not realize that give was misspelled. Thanks to the person who pointed it out.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Well actually, a fair number of Democrats are socialists and a fair number of Republicans are fascists.

You know that socialists and fascists are one and the same right?

Fascist allow for the private ownership of property, private ownership of the means of production, and capital. At least private ownership is permitted as articulated by Mussolini, and practiced by Hitler.

Socialism can be totalitarian, and has been, when applied to a National scheme of government.

Fascists allowed private ownership… but told them how to run it and for what.

The real difference is the underlying group that the country is being run for. Fascists run the country for the good of the nation state (supposedly)- as defined by the “leader”.

Socialists run the country for the good of the populace as a whole (and as defined by the politicians).

Communism runs the country for the workers, again as defined by the Communist party.

If you have the right person(s) in charge, I suppose any of them can work. Heck, monarchy did for the majority of human history…

If you get a totalitarian in charge, well, it’s ugly… regardless of your system.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Fascist allow for the private ownership of property, private ownership of the means of production, and capital. At least private ownership is permitted as articulated by Mussolini, and practiced by Hitler.

Socialism can be totalitarian, and has been, when applied to a National scheme of government.

Still a major distinction to nationalization.

They are all command and control economies.

Everyone doing that has had large amounts of trouble caused by some individuals thinking they “know better”

Is a buffalo poop sandwich better than a deer poop sandwich?

One allows private industry and private capital. That is a distinction w a difference.

Go argue it w someone else. I am through.

Socialism?

Near as I can tell most socialist countries have some private capital and industry. It’s over a certain size or dependent upon what industry it becomes controlled.

If the government is telling you what to do and how, the ownership is practically irrelevant.

Who the elite are is very different in Fascist and communist systems. Socialist? Tends to be a bit more nuanced.

In Nazi Germany, when Hitler took over how many large companies were Jewish owned? How many in say 1941? Ownership at the permission of the government is consistent throughout. The government picks and chooses.

I’m not getting your “clear difference” here.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
You fellas are missing the greater point here.

They are being deported simply because they came from a socialist, predatory government. They are on their way home because they will never again vote for a Democrat socialist, here or there.

They offer nothing to the Democrats, so their gone.

Do you have any proof or support for that improbable contention?

The administration can't win. Damned if they don't deport, damned if they do.