Our host made this comment regarding Israel and territorial claims.

I have to challenge this:

Israel’s position is clear. Burn Hamas to the ground and set the ashes on fire.


“We don’t seek to govern Gaza, we don’t seek to occupy it. But we seek to give it and us a better future … and that requires defeating Hamas,” he said. “I’ve set goals, I didn’t set a timetable because it can take more time.”

Israel has fought 2 wars of annihilation at least twice against its Islamic Nation State Neighbors. Israel’s acquiring through these wars and incursions upon its security as a buffer zone against these neighbors.

Israel had not stepped one inch into Gaza in 20 plus years.

Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, and Syria have not lost large swaths of territory dunces Israel’s creation.


No, Israel is not “growing like a cancer.”

However, Islamic motivated violence has once again.

Agree. History tells the true story.
Israel has ceded all the territory that the Palestinians are living in. Yet, Hamas wants to fight as do Hezbollah and Iran. Yet no country that worships Allah will take any refugees... That is against the Koran... Go figure.

The cancer is Islamic terrorists….

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Originally posted by jdollar:
The cancer is Islamic terrorists….

100%^^^

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
The cancer is Islamic terrorists….

100%^^^

200%

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Originally posted by jdollar:
The cancer is Islamic terrorists….

All day, every day!


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For those who ignorant of history.



The Arabs had all of palestine before the Brits gave it to the Zionists.

Creating another, modern, form of Nazism.

Here it is for your education.
The Balfour Declaration
This letter to Lord Rothschild, by the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James
Balfour, was aimed at Jewish support for the Allies in the First World War. The
letter, known as the "Balfour Declaration" became the basis movement to create
a Jewish state in Palestine. The letter was published a week later in The Times
(London) of London


Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild:
I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's
Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist
aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:


His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a
national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to
facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing
shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing nonJewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by
Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge
of the Zionist Federation.
Yours,
Arthur James Balfour

So how many Palestinian refugees is the UAE taking in?

I hear Saudi Arabia took in 5, Egypt took 10, Yemen 4, Jordan 8, Syria 10, etc,etc,etc.

Well, then. The UAE should take at least half a dozen.

After all, the Palestinians are Arab brothers, right?

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Originally posted by Saeed:
For those who ignorant of history.



The Arabs had all of palestine before the Brits gave it to the Zionists.

Creating another, modern, form of Nazism.

Here it is for your education.
The Balfour Declaration
This letter to Lord Rothschild, by the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James
Balfour, was aimed at Jewish support for the Allies in the First World War. The
letter, known as the "Balfour Declaration" became the basis movement to create
a Jewish state in Palestine. The letter was published a week later in The Times
(London) of London


Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild:
I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's
Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist
aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:


His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a
national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to
facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing
shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing nonJewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by
Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge
of the Zionist Federation.
Yours,
Arthur James Balfour

So, Saeed, explain your reasoning behind the cleansing of Jews from all the Arab countries. I'd wager there are more Arabs in little Israel than there are Jews left in all the Arab countries.

Israel was permitting Palestinians to enter Israel for work before this indescribable violence.

Nothing Saeed has diss changed anything.

I agree w Israel holding a buffer zone they won in multiple wars that sought their annihilation.

There is no need for Israel to keep peace w Hamas and Hezbollah. Israel has tried. Israel had given up any claim and vacated Gaza for over 20 years. Despite Hamas being the ruling Party. Hamas, supported by Iran, has shown how Islamic religious nuts who control the state return this good faith by Israel.

Here we have Saeed, who is more or less responsible and enlightened, implying that Israel should not exist when he says:

The Arabs had all of palestine before the Brits gave it to the Zionists.

Creating another, modern, form of Nazism.


We know how Israel was created. Guess what, it was promised in 1917, and the creation of Israel was a good thing. Israel has more than won its status as a nation state. Hamas and the states that support it have won their status as Islamic terrorist.

Hamas and Palestinian had and could have Gaza. They chose war on a barbaric scale. They made this choice because the extreme, mid evil reading of their Holly book teaches the Jews must be, at best subjected, at worst, exterminated.

That is the cancer from N Africa, to the Middle East, and up Asia Minor.

Somehow, sympathy and near support for these who bring destruction has spread into a segment of our culture.

Luckily, I see these people being rebuked by and large in the market place of ideas.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Israel was permitting Palestinians to enter Israel for work before this indescribable violence.

Nothing Saeed has diss changed anything.

I agree w Israel holding a buffer zone they won in multiple wars that sought their annihilation.

There is no need for Israel to keep peace w Hamas and Hezbollah. Israel has tried. Israel had given up any claim and vacated Gaza for over 20 years. Despite Hamas being the ruling Party. Hamas, supported by Iran, has shown how Islamic religious nuts who control the state return this good faith by Israel.

Here we have Saeed, who is more or less responsible and enlightened, implying that Israel should not exist when he says:

The Arabs had all of palestine before the Brits gave it to the Zionists.

Creating another, modern, form of Nazism.


We know how Israel was created. Guess what, it was promised in 1917, and the creation of Israel was a good thing. Israel has more than won its status as a nation state. Hamas and the states that support it have won their status as Islamic terrorist.

Hamas and Palestinian had and could have Gaza. They chose war on a barbaric scale. They made this choice because the extreme, mid evil reading of their Holly book teaches the Jews must be, at best subjected, at worst, exterminated.

That is the cancer from N Africa, to the Middle East, and up Asia Minor.

Somehow, sympathy and near support for these who bring destruction has spread into a segment of our culture.

Luckily, I see these people being rebuked by and large in the market place of ideas.

Well said.

Originally posted by Saeed:
For those who ignorant of history.



The Arabs had all of palestine before the Brits gave it to the Zionists.

Creating another, modern, form of Nazism.

Here it is for your education.
The Balfour Declaration
This letter to Lord Rothschild, by the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James
Balfour, was aimed at Jewish support for the Allies in the First World War. The
letter, known as the "Balfour Declaration" became the basis movement to create
a Jewish state in Palestine. The letter was published a week later in The Times
(London) of London


Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild:
I have much pleasure in conveying to you. on behalf of His Majesty's
Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist
aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:


His Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a
national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to
facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing
shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing nonJewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by
Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge
of the Zionist Federation.
Yours,
Arthur James Balfour


Home for the Jews in PALESTINE!

As promised by the bloody Brits!

There was no ISRAEL then.

The cancer was created in 1948 and has been growing ever since!

With attitudes like these, forget to see an end to crimes against innocent civilians.

Of course, America knows nothing about killing innocent civilians!

Agent Orange still killing people in South East Asia.

Bombing schools, mosques, and homes is just normal for your government!

You really deserve Biden, Trump and Kamala!

Typical Islamic based racist bias and rantings...How about we go back to...

Chalcolithic Period (4500-3200 BCE)

3500 BCE - First Settlement of Jerusalem
Early Bronze Age (3200-2220 BCE)
2500 BCE - First Houses Built in Area
Middle Bronze Age (2220-1550 BCE)
1800 BCE - Construction of First City Wall
Late Bronze Age (1550-1200 BCE)
1400 BCE - First Mention of Jerusalem in Cuneiform Amarna Letters
Iron Age I (1200-1000 BCE)
1200 BCE - Jerusalem is conquered by Canaanites (Jebusites)
Iron Age II (1000-529 BCE)
1000 BCE - King David Conquers Jerusalem; Declares City Capital of Jewish Kingdom
960 BCE - David's Son, King Solomon, Builds First Jewish Temple
721 BCE - Assyrians Conquer Samaria; Refugees Flee to Jerusalem and City Expands onto Western Hill
701 BCE - Assyrian Ruler Sennacherib Lays Seige to Jerusalem
586 BCE - Babylonian Forces Destroy Jerusalem and Demolish First Temple
Persian Period (539-322 BCE)
539 BCE - Persian Ruler Cyrus the Great Conquers Babylonian Empire, Including Jerusalem
516 BCE - Cyrus Permits Jews in Babylonian Exile to Return to Jerusalem; Second Temple Built
445-425 BCE - Nehemiah the Prophet Rebuilds the Walls of Jerusalem; City Confined to Eastern Hill
Hellenistic Period (332-141 BCE)
332 BCE - Greek Leader Alexander the Great Conquers Judea and Jerusalem
332-141 BCE - Ptolemaic and Seleucid Rule in Jerusalem
Hasmonean Period (141-37 BCE)
141 BCE - Hasmonean Dynasty Begins; Jerusalem Again Expands Limits to Western Hill
63 BCE - Roman General Pompey captures Jerusalem
Herodian Period (37 BCE - 70 CE)
37 BCE - King Herod Restructures Second Temple, Adds Retaining Walls
30 CE - Jesus Crucified by Romans in Jerusalem
Roman Period (70 - 324 CE)
70 CE - Roman Forces Destroy Jerusalem and Demolish Second Temple
135 CE - Jerusalem Rebuilt as a Roman City
Byzantine Period (324-638 CE)
335 CE - Church of the Holy Sepulchre Built
614 CE - Persians Capture Jerusalem
629 CE - Byzantine Christians Recapture Jerusalem from Persians
First Muslim Period (638-1099 CE)
638 CE - Caliph Omar Enters Jerusalem
661-750 CE - Jerusalem Ruled Under Umayyad Dynasty
691 CE - Dome of the Rock Built on Site of Destroyed Jewish Temples
750-974 CE - Jerusalem Ruled Under Abassid Dynasty
Crusader Period (1099-1187 CE)
1099 CE - First Crusaders Capture Jerusalem
Ayyubid Period (1187-1259 CE)
1187 CE - Saladin Captures Jerusalem from Crusaders
1229-1244 CE - Crusaders Briefly Recapture Jerusalem Two Times
Mamluk Period (1250-1516)
1250 - Muslim Caliph Dismantles Walls of Jerusalem; Population Rapidly Declines
Ottoman Period (1516-1917)
1517 - Ottoman Empire Captures Jerusalem
1538-1541 - Suleiman the Magnificent Rebuilds the Walls of Jerusalem
British Mandate (1917-1948)
1917 - British Capture Jerusalem in World War I
Divided City (1948-1967)
1948 - State of Israel Established; Jerusalem Divided By Armistice Lines Between Israel & Jordan
Reunification (1967-Present)
1967 - Israel Captures Jerusalem's Old City and Eastern Half; Reunites City

Simple fact of life is more nations and people have claimed Israel as their own than you can realistically count. If it is your position that the Palestinians hold some claim over it based ion a Bristish colonial period mandate, then history will disagree with you. Naming it Israel is a purely modern touch, has no real bearing on when and where the Jewish people have lived and prospered for centuries.