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09 February 2025, 23:43
jeffeossoUSAID
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Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
America Alone...foreign policy written by a grade schooler
Well, at least even YOU can understand it
and yet he still can't seem to grasp it -- sigh - well, he got lucky - as there's no academic or intelligence tests are required to post here
10 February 2025, 00:07
ANTELOPEDUNDEEquote:
Originally posted by nute:
There are endless worthy causes to support around the world and foreign aid by western or richer states to those in need can make a huge difference.
Ensuring that the aid gets to where it is intended and doesn't end up funding a govt officials next Mercedes should be paramount, as should ensuring it gets to those who need it most rather than that days fashionable/ politically correct cause.
There are millions who live on less than a dollar a day or don't have access to clean water or basic medication. These people need our help, and it would be a sad day if the US ceased providing aid.
Except that we won't send a military contingent in order to insure delivery. I'd like to see a justification for some of the expenditures that appear at first glance to be frivolous or inappropriate. Sounds like they see one bad apple and automatically want to throw out the whole barrel.
Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
10 February 2025, 00:11
Steve Bertramquote:
Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
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Originally posted by nute:
There are endless worthy causes to support around the world and foreign aid by western or richer states to those in need can make a huge difference.
Ensuring that the aid gets to where it is intended and doesn't end up funding a govt officials next Mercedes should be paramount, as should ensuring it gets to those who need it most rather than that days fashionable/ politically correct cause.
There are millions who live on less than a dollar a day or don't have access to clean water or basic medication. These people need our help, and it would be a sad day if the US ceased providing aid.
Except that we won't send a military contingent in order to insure delivery. I'd like to see a justification for some of the expenditures that appear at first glance to be frivolous or inappropriate. Sounds like they see one bad apple and automatically want to throw out the whole barrel.
Pretty well sums it up, I agree with both of the above posters.
10 February 2025, 00:12
Steve Bertramquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
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Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
America Alone...foreign policy written by a grade schooler
Well, at least even YOU can understand it
and yet he still can't seem to grasp it -- sigh - well, he got lucky - as there's no academic or intelligence tests are required to post here
I would say that you are a one trick pony Daisey, but a one trick rat dog is more like it.
Jump through the hoop for orange man honey, good girl. Now go lay down.
10 February 2025, 00:56
M.ShyGet rid of all the waste and then we can start completely fresh with something new that will have a watchdog over it
Common Dems, this is about our our well being here in US
No country in this world gives two shits about us, no one period so the old saying “ No good deed goes unpunished “ is something we could learn from for time being
All these shit hole places just send their worst citizens/criminals our way and they laugh all the way to the bank
Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
10 February 2025, 04:24
JefffiveDo ya'll think USAID is out robbing gas stations for money to piss away? Their budget, to a great degree of specificity, is passed by Congress.
Link
"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
10 February 2025, 04:27
Jefffivequote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
Get rid of all the waste and then we can start completely fresh with something new that will have a watchdog over it
Common Dems, this is about our our well being here in US
No country in this world gives two shits about us, no one period so the old saying “ No good deed goes unpunished “ is something we could learn from for time being
All these shit hole places just send their worst citizens/criminals our way and they laugh all the way to the bank
Like the $20+ million for Trump to attend the Super Bowl?
"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
10 February 2025, 04:32
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Jefffive:
Do ya'll think USAID is out robbing gas stations for money to piss away? Their budget, to a great degree of specificity, is passed by Congress.
Link
yes, plunder from taxpayers --
congress approves the potential spend, gives to executive branch, which spends the money -- that's the constitution -- there is ZERO requirements to spend all of it
you swore an oath to protect it, you might READ it
10 February 2025, 04:41
Jefffive
"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
10 February 2025, 05:17
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Jefffive:
"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
if you are innocent, why are you accepting a pardon? - Jeffe
10 February 2025, 09:05
medvedquote:
Originally posted by Jefffive:
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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Get rid of all the waste and then we can start completely fresh with something new that will have a watchdog over it
Common Dems, this is about our our well being here in US
No country in this world gives two shits about us, no one period so the old saying “ No good deed goes unpunished “ is something we could learn from for time being
All these shit hole places just send their worst citizens/criminals our way and they laugh all the way to the bank
Like the $20+ million for Trump to attend the Super Bowl?
do what i say not what i do ...
10 February 2025, 14:57
BushPeterA lot of the USAID funds come back to the US, and buy a lot of leverage where it is spend.
Examples given here of wasteful spending amount to a couple dozen millions of dollars, on a budget of 40 billion.
But think about this, USAID spend billions on HIV antivirals funds for countries, with the condition that these have to be bought on-license, licenses which are held by US companies. Those countries could get off-license antivirals for much less, probably 10% of the US price. But since they're free for those countries, they get them on-license at the US companies, so effectively most of the money comes back to the US. If USAID kills of all that funding, those countries will buy the antivirals in India or China, for a fraction of what they would spend in the US, and China will probably happily fund it, as the leverage of it is worth a lot more.
If USAID pulls out of Africa, we're going to see a lot more Chinese in Africa.
10 February 2025, 15:00
Steve Bertramquote:
Originally posted by BushPeter:
A lot of the USAID funds come back to the US, and buy a lot of leverage where it is spend.
Examples given here of wasteful spending amount to a couple dozen millions of dollars, on a budget of 40 billion.
But think about this, USAID spend billions on HIV antivirals funds for countries, with the condition that these have to be bought on-license, licenses which are held by US companies. Those countries could get off-license antivirals for much less, probably 10% of the US price. But since they're free for those countries, they get them on-license at the US companies, so effectively most of the money comes back to the US. If USAID kills of all that funding, those countries will buy the antivirals in India or China, for a fraction of what they would spend in the US, and China will probably happily fund it, as the leverage of it is worth a lot more.
If USAID pulls out of Africa, we're going to see a lot more Chinese in Africa.
Correct on all accounts, but the faithful will follow Trump's every move and support it, no matter how bad his ideas are.
10 February 2025, 17:21
JTEXquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
America Alone...foreign policy written by a grade schooler
Well, at least even YOU can understand it
Prolly not......
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10 February 2025, 17:26
JTEXquote:
USAID pulls out of Africa, we're going to see a lot more Chinese in Africa.
You are gonna see a lot more Chinese in Africa no matter. Your corrupt officials are busy taking all their bribes and many of the remaining whites are looking for their last chance to make a buck....
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10 February 2025, 17:46
ledvmIs the above a joke? I am not sure how many more Chinese you could pack into Africa than there is now.
We had our chance. We could have owned (with relationship) the southern tip of Africa. Carter and Clinton gave it away. No whining allowed now.
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10 February 2025, 17:51
Steve BertramThe joke is sitting in the Oval Office unfortunately.
Trump has the most poorly thought out foreign policy of any President in my lifetime.
10 February 2025, 17:52
ledvmquote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
The joke is sitting in the Oval Office unfortunately.
Trump has the most poorly thought out foreign policy of any President in my lifetime.
Well count yourself in the minority. He has good approval ratings right now even amongst all the hoopla.
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
10 February 2025, 17:55
Steve Bertramquote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
The joke is sitting in the Oval Office unfortunately.
Trump has the most poorly thought out foreign policy of any President in my lifetime.
Well count yourself in the minority. He has good approval ratings right now even amongst all the hoopla.
Some folks can't see the forest for the trees.
Things will change rapidly as his dumb ass policies spike inflation. 25% on steel and aluminum? Hard to believe even Trump is that stupid.
10 February 2025, 19:13
TomPquote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
The joke is sitting in the Oval Office unfortunately.
Trump has the most poorly thought out foreign policy of any President in my lifetime.
Well count yourself in the minority. He has good approval ratings right now even amongst all the hoopla.
Me too. Trump will trade bishops for pawns, knowing that the collateral damage will be beyond the attention span of his audience. Reminds me of the old "...Prepare Two Letters..." joke from the Soviet Union days.
TomP
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10 February 2025, 19:17
MJinesTrade bishops for pawns, I like that . . . the art of the deal.
Mike
12 February 2025, 18:42
BushPeterquote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Is the above a joke? I am not sure how many more Chinese you could pack into Africa than there is now.
We had our chance. We could have owned (with relationship) the southern tip of Africa. Carter and Clinton gave it away. No whining allowed now.
Most control of natural resources was lost under Bush Jr, and most control of it was seized by the Chinese during that same administration.
It's not so much the actual number of chines which might grow, but their influence.
Losing influence can be done quickly, and saved a few bucks. Gaining influence back takes much longer and costs a lot more. I guess that will be the burden of future administrations. Why complain about the Chinese influence and then just hand influence to the whole world on a plate to them? Maybe Elon likes doing business in China better than in the US? Cheaper labour, quicker to get things done, more possibilities as long as you keep the right people as friends.
Is it really wasted money if for the costs of a few dozen bombs you can expose children in Iraq during their upbringing to American stories,culture, values and educate them? Especially when the costs are a few drops in a big bucket of the total budget?
12 February 2025, 19:39
nutequote:
Originally posted by BushPeter:
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Originally posted by ledvm:
Is the above a joke? I am not sure how many more Chinese you could pack into Africa than there is now.
We had our chance. We could have owned (with relationship) the southern tip of Africa. Carter and Clinton gave it away. No whining allowed now.
Most control of natural resources was lost under Bush Jr, and most control of it was seized by the Chinese during that same administration.
It's not so much the actual number of chines which might grow, but their influence.
Losing influence can be done quickly, and saved a few bucks. Gaining influence back takes much longer and costs a lot more. I guess that will be the burden of future administrations. Why complain about the Chinese influence and then just hand influence to the whole world on a plate to them? Maybe Elon likes doing business in China better than in the US? Cheaper labour, quicker to get things done, more possibilities as long as you keep the right people as friends.
Is it really wasted money if for the costs of a few dozen bombs you can expose children in Iraq during their upbringing to American stories,culture, values and educate them? Especially when the costs are a few drops in a big bucket of the total budget?
Well said. Some say the wests star is waning and Asia/ China are the coming superpowers. We can roll over and let that happen or we can use the tools we have available to resist that. It’s not a done deal.