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Scot Peterson, school resource officer, gets not-guilty verdict in Parkland shooting trial

https://www.usatoday.com/story...nnocent/70360878007/


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Posts: 4593 | Location: TX | Registered: 03 March 2009Reply With Quote
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I couldnt see how it was against the law.
I didnt like what he did/didnt do, and find him disgusting, but unlawful?
 
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His life has to be horrible.
I don't see justice for anyone in convicting him of a crime.
 
Posts: 9182 | Location: Dillingham Alaska | Registered: 10 April 2006Reply With Quote
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Lawyers are the only winners.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...1baf726259a367&ei=21


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Posts: 19901 | Location: Depends on the Season | Registered: 17 February 2017Reply With Quote
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What’s moral/right and what is legal/criminal are very different things.

His acts were cowardly and immoral, but not illegal.
 
Posts: 10724 | Location: Minnesota USA | Registered: 15 June 2007Reply With Quote
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Obviously being a coward is not against the law…….


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Posts: 13198 | Location: Georgia | Registered: 28 October 2006Reply With Quote
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I love when bootlickers ask “Who are you going to call when the shit hits the fan?”

“Not some cockroach to stand around and watch me die”.

Fuck the cops. All cops are bastards.
 
Posts: 7505 | Location: near Austin, Texas, USA | Registered: 15 December 2000Reply With Quote
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The coward of Broward.
 
Posts: 5232 | Location: The way life should be | Registered: 24 May 2012Reply With Quote
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Lawyers are the only winners.



Exactly!

The main reason America has destroyed itself from the inside!

Everything has to be litigated.

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Posts: 67184 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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I love when bootlickers ask “Who are you going to call when the shit hits the fan?”

“Not some cockroach to stand around and watch me die”.

Fuck the cops. All cops are bastards.


Except the one in the Texas mall. Very rare man.
 
Posts: 15902 | Location: Iowa | Registered: 10 April 2007Reply With Quote
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The jury is a fact finding body. The jury applies factual findings to the law provided by the Court (jury instructions).

I say, the man was presumed innocent. The State failed to provide facts that overcome the presumption of innocence based on beyond a reasonable doubt.

The verdict does not mean someone else so positioned cannot be charged and convicted as the case did go to the jury. However, this verdict would require professional hesitation to do charge someone similar.

That is because another jury can always reach different factual conclusions. Those factual determinations are not to be distributed by Appellate Courts who review legal/law issues, or factual issues on the bases of whether sufficient evidence was present that would allow a reasonable jury to factually conclude as the jury did. That is a very high bar.

I wonder as a human (not a legal machine) if the jury figured the shame and death could not be healed by punishing this guy. A guy who had a responsibility, but ultimately is not the hand that pushed the dominos over. Meaning, to punish him when we really want to punish the killer was just humanly a step the jury as a whole could not take.
 
Posts: 11104 | Location: Somewhere above Tennessee and below Kentucky  | Registered: 31 July 2016Reply With Quote
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You all surprise me with your softheartedness.

This law enforcement officer, sworn to serve and protect, was placed inside the school to keep the students safe in the event of a school shooting.

A school shooting happened and he failed to act, his inaction most likely causing more deaths.

I would guess that every single LEO in the US will see the outcome of this case. I’m sure that this guy isn’t the only coward with a badge. I have to wonder if this guy being made an example, might have had other would be cowards saying to themselves “shit, I’d rather get shot than go through what Peterson went through…”

If a school shooting was ever to happen while my daughter is in school, I would want the on duty LEO to be charging toward the shooter, not hiding for his own safety. And if a that LEO was thinking to himself “I’d rather win the congressional Medal of Honor like that cop at the Allen Mall for taking a chance at getting shot, than hide under my desk to be ridiculed and raked over the coals like Scot Peterson…” I would guess that he would be more likely to do his duty.

(Yes, I do realize that a jury found him not guilty, so he is not guilty…)


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Posts: 6834 | Location: Nome, Alaska(formerly SW Wyoming) | Registered: 22 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by theback40:
I couldnt see how it was against the law.
I didnt like what he did/didnt do, and find him disgusting, but unlawful?


Agreed.

Jonathan Turley said it best: The law can’t and does not mandate courage. Men who run towards gunfire do so because it is who they are and not because they are afraid of breaking the law. The same goes for men who run away from it…it is just simply who they are and no violation of law.


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Posts: 36772 | Location: Gainesville, TX | Registered: 24 December 2006Reply With Quote
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Oh, I bet he is going to get ate up in civil court, because the law does mandate those who have a duty to preform that duty.

You realize this went to a jury. That means the presiding judge has ruled the “law” permitted the case be presented for factual findings by the jury.

The Judge decided the law permitted the prosecution drawing all reasonable conclusions in favor of the Prosecution.

The Jury free those reasonable factual conclusions the opposite way. That does not mean as a matter of law, this fact pattern could not be prosecuted.
 
Posts: 11104 | Location: Somewhere above Tennessee and below Kentucky  | Registered: 31 July 2016Reply With Quote
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I am sure all you said is 100% factual. However, many lawyers did question the merit of the prosecution. I have no opinion.

My point was that the law cannot mandate courage…simply not possible.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
Posts: 36772 | Location: Gainesville, TX | Registered: 24 December 2006Reply With Quote
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You know it is 100 percent factual bc the case went to the jury. The jury is a fact finding body that applies those facts to law provided by the Court; not a determination of legal issues.

It is not a winning argument to a similar case being brought to say, but Judge the jury found this other guy over here not guilty under similar facts.

It is a legal argument to say, “Judge under these facts the Appellate Court that is binding on you has said a person with these facts cannot be convicted under this theory as a matter a law.”

The average man knows that is not the case. Otherwise, no one would be convicted of murder.
 
Posts: 11104 | Location: Somewhere above Tennessee and below Kentucky  | Registered: 31 July 2016Reply With Quote
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You know it is 100 percent factual bc the case went to the jury. The jury is a fact finding body that applies those facts to law provided by the Court; not a determination of legal issues.

It is not a winning argument to a similar case being brought to say, but Judge the jury found this other guy over here not guilty under similar facts.

It is a legal argument to say, “Judge under these facts the Appellate Court that is binding on you has said a person with these facts cannot be convicted under this theory as a matter a law.”

The average man knows that is not the case. Otherwise, no one would be convicted of murder.


I have not argued contrary to any of that.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
Posts: 36772 | Location: Gainesville, TX | Registered: 24 December 2006Reply With Quote
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Scot Peterson


https://www.washingtonpost.com...693b38637_story.html

‘It was my job, and I didn’t find him’: Stoneman Douglas resource officer remains haunted by massacre

By Eli Saslow
June 4, 2018 at 6:00 a.m. EDT


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Originally posted by JBrown:
You all surprise me with your softheartedness.

This law enforcement officer, sworn to serve and protect, was placed inside the school to keep the students safe in the event of a school shooting.

A school shooting happened and he failed to act, his inaction most likely causing more deaths.

I would guess that every single LEO in the US will see the outcome of this case. I’m sure that this guy isn’t the only coward with a badge. I have to wonder if this guy being made an example, might have had other would be cowards saying to themselves “shit, I’d rather get shot than go through what Peterson went through…”

If a school shooting was ever to happen while my daughter is in school, I would want the on duty LEO to be charging toward the shooter, not hiding for his own safety. And if a that LEO was thinking to himself “I’d rather win the congressional Medal of Honor like that cop at the Allen Mall for taking a chance at getting shot, than hide under my desk to be ridiculed and raked over the coals like Scot Peterson…” I would guess that he would be more likely to do his duty.

(Yes, I do realize that a jury found him not guilty, so he is not guilty…)


I think we're all aware of cowardly soldiers, parents, teachers, elected officials, executives, cowboys, etc,....

I suppose with some of them we or they don't find out until it's time or too late.

We find out, we move the cowards aside and we continue on. A court case doesn't matter.
 
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