https://www.reuters.com/world/...ure-plan-2025-02-03/

https://www.iheart.com/content...retary-rubios-visit/

https://www.newsweek.com/donal...a-trade-deal-2025118

Looking good. And Trump didn't even have to invade.

Why no negativity? Trump may have secured control of the canal, without “invading” anyone?

“The art of the deal”

Regardless of how anyone feels about Trump, you simply cannot overestimate the strategic importance of the Panama Canal.

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Trump may have secured control of the canal, without “invading” anyone?

Once again, you're looking through that lens of yours.

I only read the second link. It says Panama is ending its agreement regarding the canal with China--a good thing, I'll grant you.

The article doesn't say that the US will take control of the canal. Instead, Panama's president assurred Rubio that Panama will continue to control the canal.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Trump may have secured control of the canal, without “invading” anyone?

Once again, you're looking through that lens of yours.

I only read the second link. It says Panama is ending its agreement regarding the canal with China--a good thing, I'll grant you.

The article doesn't say that the US will take control of the canal. Instead, Panama's president assurred Rubio that Panama will continue to control the canal.

You're not wrong. I see it as a victory. China controlling that canal is a huge strategic problem.

Did you see the link I posted in the Greenland thread? I think everyone missed it.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Trump may have secured control of the canal, without “invading” anyone?

Once again, you're looking through that lens of yours.

I only read the second link. It says Panama is ending its agreement regarding the canal with China--a good thing, I'll grant you.

The article doesn't say that the US will take control of the canal. Instead, Panama's president assurred Rubio that Panama will continue to control the canal.

You're not wrong. I see it as a victory. China controlling that canal is a huge strategic problem.

Did you see the link I posted in the Greenland thread? I think everyone missed it.

no we did not but thinking your expanxionism is getting closer to the trump ideals is a surprise for most ...

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Trump may have secured control of the canal, without “invading” anyone?

Once again, you're looking through that lens of yours.

I only read the second link. It says Panama is ending its agreement regarding the canal with China--a good thing, I'll grant you.

The article doesn't say that the US will take control of the canal. Instead, Panama's president assurred Rubio that Panama will continue to control the canal.

You're not wrong. I see it as a victory. China controlling that canal is a huge strategic problem.

Did you see the link I posted in the Greenland thread? I think everyone missed it.

no we did not but thinking your expanxionism is getting closer to the trump ideals is a surprise for most ...

Try to look at the reason first, then you might understand that Greenland is absolutely the key to defending the northern waterways, to include your country.

Trump doesn't want Greenland, he wants to establish a deterrent to the north that currently doesn't exist.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyp4p1x10no

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Trump may have secured control of the canal, without “invading” anyone?

Once again, you're looking through that lens of yours.

I only read the second link. It says Panama is ending its agreement regarding the canal with China--a good thing, I'll grant you.

The article doesn't say that the US will take control of the canal. Instead, Panama's president assurred Rubio that Panama will continue to control the canal.

You're not wrong. I see it as a victory. China controlling that canal is a huge strategic problem.

Did you see the link I posted in the Greenland thread? I think everyone missed it.

no we did not but thinking your expanxionism is getting closer to the trump ideals is a surprise for most ...

Try to look at the reason first, then you might understand that Greenland is absolutely the key to defending the northern waterways, to include your country.

Trump doesn't want Greenland, he wants to establish a deterrent to the north that currently doesn't exist.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyp4p1x10no

sure trump does not want greenland thus the reason he stated the opposite of what you wrote ... you will say as well he did not want canada to be the 51st state lol ... i do understand the rational of defending greenland and the access including a stronger presence of nato on the northern borders but not a claim from your president ... btw it looks like the speeches of hitler to the natural expansion without the populations ... you want the land of greenland and canada for the land and all the ressources but not the people ...

Why everyone when disagreeing with Trump always has to use HITLER, Putin, racist or whatever else comparison?
When shit hits the fan, everyone loves US

Well, Mexico folded like a cheap suit

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Why everyone when disagreeing with Trump always has to use HITLER, Putin, racist or whatever else comparison?
When shit hits the fan, everyone loves US

Well, Mexico folded like a cheap suit

expansionism and getting new land exactly like hitler did and putin why you want to use other name for the same actions ...

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Originally posted by medved:


expansionism and getting new land exactly like hitler did and putin why you want to use other name for the same actions ...

I really don't think this is the goal at all.

The Monroe doctrine baby!

Panama says "Yes Sir", as they should.

We made em, we can brake em.

We (me) would much rather make em! But Latin Americans are like arabs.......you just can't trust em....and they need a boot on their necks....

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Originally posted by JTEX:
The Monroe doctrine baby!

Panama says "Yes Sir", as they should.

We made em, we can brake em.

We (me) would much rather make em! But Latin Americans are like arabs.......you just can't trust em....and they need a boot on their necks....

you had to be cautious as of today a signature from a us president means nothing on a treaty ... the rest of the world migh start to think we just cannot trust you ...

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
The Monroe doctrine baby!

Panama says "Yes Sir", as they should.

We made em, we can brake em.

We (me) would much rather make em! But Latin Americans are like arabs.......you just can't trust em....and they need a boot on their necks....

you had to be cautious as of today a signature from a us president means nothing on a treaty ... the rest of the world migh start to think we just cannot trust you ...

Exactly. Same thing happened in the 1930’s with France and England and their promises to Poland and Czechoslovakia. Anyone who thinks that Trump’s signature on anything or his promise is worth spit is an idiot.

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Originally posted by JTEX:
The Monroe doctrine baby!

Panama says "Yes Sir", as they should.

We made em, we can brake em.

We (me) would much rather make em! But Latin Americans are like arabs.......you just can't trust em....and they need a boot on their necks....

Spoken like a true imperialist.

The United States should be secure in its hemisphere. The borders with Mexico and Canada should not be a threat and both countries on both sides of the border should guarantee it.

Canada is our good friend and should conduct itself accordingly
Mexico the same. United States problems in the name or sake of brotherhood are also Mexican and Canadian problems and visversa.

Threats in our hemisphere like Haiti should be pacified since they have demonstrated the inability to civilize themselves.

Cuba is civilized and no threat to the United States regardless their differing politics. Cuba and others like it should be welcomed and groomed as partners and affiliates as is China.

Imperialism is good, very good! Assuming one knows their limitations and boundaries.

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Originally posted by Scott King:
The United States should be secure in its hemisphere. The borders with Mexico and Canada should not be a threat and both countries on both sides of the border should guarantee it.

Canada is our good friend and should conduct itself accordingly
Mexico the same. United States problems in the name or sake of brotherhood are also Mexican and Canadian problems and visversa.

Threats in our hemisphere like Haiti should be pacified since they have demonstrated the inability to civilize themselves.

Cuba is civilized and no threat to the United States regardless their differing politics. Cuba and others like it should be welcomed and groomed as partners and affiliates as is China.

Imperialism is good, very good! Assuming one knows their limitations and boundaries.

sorry that you feel our borders are a threat to your country ... let imagine a canadian politican saying tomorrow enough of the drugs and firearms smuggled to our country or even the money shipped back from your state to go back to usa via the yukon and bc ..thinking as well that a lot of illegal immigrants are going south from our country ...

but it was a very good learning time to finally find out that usa is not our friend and i will say thank you trump for this. it will be a long time before i will spend a dime on us soil or us product ...

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:
The United States should be secure in its hemisphere. The borders with Mexico and Canada should not be a threat and both countries on both sides of the border should guarantee it.

Canada is our good friend and should conduct itself accordingly
Mexico the same. United States problems in the name or sake of brotherhood are also Mexican and Canadian problems and visversa.

Threats in our hemisphere like Haiti should be pacified since they have demonstrated the inability to civilize themselves.

Cuba is civilized and no threat to the United States regardless their differing politics. Cuba and others like it should be welcomed and groomed as partners and affiliates as is China.

Imperialism is good, very good! Assuming one knows their limitations and boundaries.

sorry that you feel our borders are a threat to your country ... let imagine a canadian politican saying tomorrow enough of the drugs and firearms smuggled to our country or even the money shipped back from your state to go back to usa via the yukon and bc ..thinking as well that a lot of illegal immigrants are going south from our country ...

but it was a very good learning time to finally find out that usa is not our friend and i will say thank you trump for this. it will be a long time before i will spend a dime on us soil or us product ...

Unfortunately my friends in Vermont have said the border crossings with criminal illegals AND drugs has been bad there for a long time. I reckon other border states may see similar.

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Unfortunately my friends in Vermont have said the border crossings with criminal illegals AND drugs has been bad there for a long time. I reckon other border states may see similar.

Why is that Canada's problem? Why isn't the US securing its own border?

Borders belong to TWO countries..... Just like fences.....

If my cows keep going through my bad fences to eat my neighbor's garden....well...that makes me a bad neighbor.

Pretty simple?

Yes, it's simple. Secure our own border first, then we can complain about what Canada is doing.

The US/Canada border is the longest unsecured border in the world. Canada is or was a peaceful friend of the US. Do you expect armies lined up on both sides?

How do they ( illegals) get in Canada and Mexico in the first place?
You see, it’s not just border issue on border, it’s an issue how they let them in in their respective countries first

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
How do they ( illegals) get in Canada and Mexico in the first place?
You see, it’s not just border issue on border, it’s an issue how they let them in in their respective countries first

that is the first question, the second will be how many illegals are we talking about? like the fentanyl exported to usa that counts for .02% of the seized one. how many are seized by mexican and us customs?

but trying to divert your own issues by blaming others never worked ... as you have seen it is not because you claim i will use tariffs and you will have no choice ... interesting that a capitalist like trump never thought that wall street will have a say ...

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:
The United States should be secure in its hemisphere. The borders with Mexico and Canada should not be a threat and both countries on both sides of the border should guarantee it.

Canada is our good friend and should conduct itself accordingly
Mexico the same. United States problems in the name or sake of brotherhood are also Mexican and Canadian problems and visversa.

Threats in our hemisphere like Haiti should be pacified since they have demonstrated the inability to civilize themselves.

Cuba is civilized and no threat to the United States regardless their differing politics. Cuba and others like it should be welcomed and groomed as partners and affiliates as is China.

Imperialism is good, very good! Assuming one knows their limitations and boundaries.

sorry that you feel our borders are a threat to your country ... let imagine a canadian politican saying tomorrow enough of the drugs and firearms smuggled to our country or even the money shipped back from your state to go back to usa via the yukon and bc ..thinking as well that a lot of illegal immigrants are going south from our country ...

but it was a very good learning time to finally find out that usa is not our friend and i will say thank you trump for this. it will be a long time before i will spend a dime on us soil or us product ...

Sorry you feel that way. I think the US has a lot to offer you.

I believe most of us here love Canada. Beautiful nation, full of rich resources and what a friendly bunch of citizens.i intend to go there and tour around every opportunity I get.

It's unfortunate that it took a character like Trump to get serious about our borders and it should have been done decades ago, but nobody would so here we are. I am my fellow Americans shouldn't have to be advocating for military strikes against the Drug Cartels operating in Latin America, the Latin Americans should be advocating military strikes against the Drug Cartels operating in their homeland.

It looks to me like both sides of our borders are getting some serious scrutiny post 1/20/25 and I'm happy.

I wish you were too and I hope to see you here soon.

i make a difference between your president and americans but if you are supporting his politics and hs attempt to make canada the 51st state well as you seen and heard not only from me but it did not work as intented ... but we have to thank trump for what he did and it will help our country to be better and with better borders as well and i do hope stronger army less dependant.

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Originally posted by medved:
i make a difference between your president and americans but if you are supporting his politics and hs attempt to make canada the 51st state well as you seen and heard not only from me but it did not work as intented ... but we have to thank trump for what he did and it will help our country to be better and with better borders as well and i do hope stronger army less dependant.

I've never voted for Trump once, am happy I didn't and wouldn't in the future.

I doubt he's serious about annexing Canada and I think it's in bad form he says things that he doesn't mean and aren't truthful.

If by coincidence or happenstance or sheer luck Trump corrects our border failure I'll be very happy.

medved your missing the way Trump operates.

he only wants the western half of the country.
nobody wants to deal with French Canadians, not even the French.... LOL

look.
all he is doing is putting pressure on your umm people in charge to stop your country from allowing retards to fly into your country and then come into ours.
how he goes about that is to shoot high and negotiate down to 65%.

Do you think bullying works? Is it the way to treat a trusted friend?

Do you rely on this tactic in your practice?

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Do you think bullying works? Is it the way to treat a trusted friend?

Do you rely on this tactic in your practice?

It appears to be what it takes....A feckless Biden got nothing done....

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Originally posted by Lamar:
medved your missing the way Trump operates.

he only wants the western half of the country.
nobody wants to deal with French Canadians, not even the French.... LOL

look.
all he is doing is putting pressure on your umm people in charge to stop your country from allowing retards to fly into your country and then come into ours.
how he goes about that is to shoot high and negotiate down to 65%.

well cant wait the next threat coming to us ... and see how it goes with wall street ... the message was clear but your dear president maybe did not get the memo ... btw the frenchs of quebec are providing some electricity to your country and i doubt people are pinching their nose on this lol

I liked my time on French Canada.

I would have to look it up, but we drove to the part that is still actual France this year.

Everyone was polite.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Do you think bullying works? Is it the way to treat a trusted friend?

Do you rely on this tactic in your practice?

Rollie,
Do you keep up with current events? Apparently not since you followed and supported the O’Biden leadership.
I suggest you spend some constructive time and read up on the CCP.

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Why everyone when disagreeing with Trump always has to use HITLER, Putin, racist or whatever else comparison?
When shit hits the fan, everyone loves US

Well, Mexico folded like a cheap suit

Its mental weakness!

And yep, mayheeco and caniuckistan both folded.....biden wasn't able to get anything from them.....


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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
The Monroe doctrine baby!

Panama says "Yes Sir", as they should.

We made em, we can brake em.

We (me) would much rather make em! But Latin Americans are like arabs.......you just can't trust em....and they need a boot on their necks....

you had to be cautious as of today a signature from a us president means nothing on a treaty ... the rest of the world migh start to think we just cannot trust you ...

Exactly. Same thing happened in the 1930’s with France and England and their promises to Poland and Czechoslovakia. Anyone who thinks that Trump’s signature on anything or his promise is worth spit is an idiot.

He's getting results.....that must make you furious.....


.

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Originally posted by medved:
i make a difference between your president and americans but if you are supporting his politics and hs attempt to make canada the 51st state well as you seen and heard not only from me but it did not work as intented ... but we have to thank trump for what he did and it will help our country to be better and with better borders as well and i do hope stronger army less dependant.

We don't want Canada as our 51st state, Canada is WAY too far to the left as you have shown......

President Trump is having the time of his life pulling your chain....and you knucklehead lefties continue to fall for it

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Originally posted by Lamar:
medved your missing the way Trump operates.

he only wants the western half of the country.
nobody wants to deal with French Canadians, not even the French.... LOL

look.
all he is doing is putting pressure on your umm people in charge to stop your country from allowing retards to fly into your country and then come into ours.
how he goes about that is to shoot high and negotiate down to 65%.

Exactly!!! And its working wel

Weak minded lefties....

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Yes, it's simple. Secure our own border first, ...

strange - that's ANOTHER trump promise -- ones that you were you emotive about wanting to see fail

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:


I want Trump to fail at all he's promised to do.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Why everyone when disagreeing with Trump always has to use HITLER, Putin, racist or whatever else comparison?
When shit hits the fan, everyone loves US

Well, Mexico folded like a cheap suit

Its mental weakness!

And yep, mayheeco and caniuckistan both folded.....biden wasn't able to get anything from them.....


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They "folded" by giving Trump exactly what they had agreed to in negotiations with Biden, except Mexico went from 15,000 troops to 10,000 and got Trump to commit to doing something about the guns-to-Mexico pipeline.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by medved:
i make a difference between your president and americans but if you are supporting his politics and hs attempt to make canada the 51st state well as you seen and heard not only from me but it did not work as intented ... but we have to thank trump for what he did and it will help our country to be better and with better borders as well and i do hope stronger army less dependant.

We don't want Canada as our 51st state, Canada is WAY too far to the left as you have shown......

President Trump is having the time of his life pulling your chain....and you knucklehead lefties continue to fall for it

you will be always the leftie of someone but when you will be alone the fun will start ... we did not requested to be part of the union your president said so but all the lefties shown the way we want to be treated and for sure you did not like the outcome ... the bullying and threats did not work: what is next? for the moment it is not trump having fun but the world ....

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
The Monroe doctrine baby!

Panama says "Yes Sir", as they should.

We made em, we can brake em.

We (me) would much rather make em! But Latin Americans are like arabs.......you just can't trust em....and they need a boot on their necks....

you had to be cautious as of today a signature from a us president means nothing on a treaty ... the rest of the world migh start to think we just cannot trust you ...

Exactly. Same thing happened in the 1930’s with France and England and their promises to Poland and Czechoslovakia. Anyone who thinks that Trump’s signature on anything or his promise is worth spit is an idiot.

The UK declared war on Germany two days after Adolf invaded Poland. We didn’t have the ability to do much about it in the short term I agree.

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
The Monroe doctrine baby!

Panama says "Yes Sir", as they should.

We made em, we can brake em.

We (me) would much rather make em! But Latin Americans are like arabs.......you just can't trust em....and they need a boot on their necks....

you had to be cautious as of today a signature from a us president means nothing on a treaty ... the rest of the world migh start to think we just cannot trust you ...

Exactly. Same thing happened in the 1930’s with France and England and their promises to Poland and Czechoslovakia. Anyone who thinks that Trump’s signature on anything or his promise is worth spit is an idiot.

The UK declared war on Germany two days after Adolf invaded Poland. We didn’t have the ability to do much about it in the short term I agree.

And Germany would have beaten the shit out of you lot if they didn’t invade Russia!