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Apparently Justice Brown feels scotus should create new laws
21 June 2025, 22:43
jeffeossoApparently Justice Brown feels scotus should create new laws
She felt that following the law was "stingy".. in an 8-1 decision. Apparently our newest justice thinks scotus CAN rewrite laws, rather than reading what is written
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson blasts 'narrow-minded' judging on Supreme Court: ANALYSIS - ABC News
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Pol...%2F%2Fwww.google.com22 June 2025, 00:43
Magine Enigam https://www.alternet.org/supre...t-moneyed-interests/Supreme Court justice suggests her colleagues have been taken in by 'moneyed interests'
June 20, 2025
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Excerpt from the article linked in the OP:
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson unloaded on her Supreme Court colleagues Friday in a series of sharp dissents, castigating what she called a "pure textualism" approach to interpreting laws, which she said had become a pretext for securing their desired outcomes, and implying the conservative justices have strayed from their oath by showing favoritism to "moneyed interests."
The attack on the court's conservative majority by the junior justice and member of the liberal wing is notably pointed and aggressive but stopped short of getting personal. It laid bare the stark divisions on the court and pent-up frustration in the minority over what Jackson described as inconsistent and unfair application of precedent by those in power.
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Several years ago I studied up on the concepts of textualism, originalism, judicial discretion and abuse thereof, judicial activism, etc., and some of justice Scalia's opinions in particular.
I reached the opinion that Scalia was an activist who used the pretext of textualism. Call it whatever, the outcome was construed in advance and pretext was used to attain and justify the outcome.
IOW, I agree with Jackson.
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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serpDegenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".
Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."
Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.
"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus
22 June 2025, 01:27
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.alternet.org/supre...t-moneyed-interests/Supreme Court justice suggests her colleagues have been taken in by 'moneyed interests'
June 20, 2025
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Excerpt from the article linked in the OP:
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson unloaded on her Supreme Court colleagues Friday in a series of sharp dissents, castigating what she called a "pure textualism" approach to interpreting laws, which she said had become a pretext for securing their desired outcomes, and implying the conservative justices have strayed from their oath by showing favoritism to "moneyed interests."
The attack on the court's conservative majority by the junior justice and member of the liberal wing is notably pointed and aggressive but stopped short of getting personal. It laid bare the stark divisions on the court and pent-up frustration in the minority over what Jackson described as inconsistent and unfair application of precedent by those in power.
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Several years ago I studied up on the concepts of textualism, originalism, judicial discretion and abuse thereof, judicial activism, etc., and some of justice Scalia's opinions in particular.
I reached the opinion that Scalia was an activist who used the pretext of textualism. Call it whatever, the outcome was construed in advance and pretext was used to attain and justify the outcome.
IOW, I agree with Jackson.
in an 8-1 decision, you agree with the 1? That she SHOULD be reading words not present in the law to enforce the law?
that explains A LOT
22 June 2025, 03:24
Magine Enigamquote:
That she SHOULD be reading words not present in the law to enforce the law?
that explains A LOT
Where did she say that?
An exact quote please.
I'm thinking that if you can't provide such a quote, then THAT explains a lot.
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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serpDegenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".
Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."
Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.
"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus
22 June 2025, 03:32
kweberjackson-brown is just dei w/ less brains than whoopi
22 June 2025, 03:38
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
That she SHOULD be reading words not present in the law to enforce the law?
that explains A LOT
Where did she say that?
An exact quote please.
I'm thinking that if you can't provide such a quote, then THAT explains a lot.
Oh honey. I get it, your aren't sophisticated, but click on the BLOODY link I provided and do this crazy thing. READ WHAT IS WRITTEN. This justice thinks adding words to laws is what's meant, not what is actually written.
Honey, notice NO LAWYER is backing you?
22 June 2025, 04:09
crbutlerI thought good judges made sure the law was followed and if a bad law was written either said it was constitutional or not… if it was, then they said it’s up to the legislature to change it.
We have a bunch of old laws that should be repealed and new ones written, not old ones “reinterpreted”.
I’m all for literalism in the law… I was taught that was what the law was all about.
And yes, both sides of the political aisle play games with this.
22 June 2025, 05:46
Magine Enigamquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
That she SHOULD be reading words not present in the law to enforce the law?
that explains A LOT
Where did she say that?
An exact quote please.
I'm thinking that if you can't provide such a quote, then THAT explains a lot.
Oh honey. I get it, your aren't sophisticated, but click on the BLOODY link I provided and do this crazy thing. READ WHAT IS WRITTEN. This justice thinks adding words to laws is what's meant, not what is actually written.
Honey, notice NO LAWYER is backing you?
Okay, I read the whole article and I didn't see the quote I'm looking for, which is to support your claim for you.
I asked you to support your claim. Instead you deflected.
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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serpDegenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".
Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."
Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.
"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus
22 June 2025, 05:59
Magine EnigamOkay, I did some add'l research to find out what the case was about. Stanley v. City of Sanford.
Now I see.
https://www.google.com/search?...gHNw&sclient=gws-wizI tend to agree with the majority decision, for the reasons given, the text of the ADA.
But I still disagree with jeffee's take on Jackson.
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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serpDegenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".
Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."
Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.
"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus