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https://apple.news/AuYxKIuVvSCWACRn2dDmeRA https://www.nytimes.com/2023/0...ents-tape-audio.html https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/...nt-in-audio-us-media https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/0...nts-audio/index.html Listen to the audio here: https://www.washingtonpost.com...ding-iran-documents/ Come on Faction, defend the Greatest President in Dr. Easter’s lifetime excluding President Reagan that he often has to disagree with when President Reagan’s actual policy is posted. | ||
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How can they spin it? Let me count the ways. unfuckinreal. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Why do we need to attack Iran? ~Ann   | |||
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Because Iran trained and funded the insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran also threatens our strategic partners bring Israel and Saudi Arabia (for better and worse). Finally, Iran has threatened to close the Straights of Hormuz which is a vital shipping corridor. Notwithstanding, the whole attempt to develop nuclear arms. | |||
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He is without a doubt the dumbest fucking human on the planet!! | |||
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What if we don't NEED to attack Iran? What if there are less dramatic, but effective, actions? I'm sure you can imagine military strategists. They would certainly develop various "attack" contingency plans, just in case the NEED elevated. You are deflecting the REAL question. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Asking a question is not deflecting. Iran is for sure an enemy but where do we need to have active 'attack' plans? Was this being projected as any sort of contingency or actual preparation for an all out attack? I ask because our govt certainly has all sorts of 'contingency plans'. Always has. ~Ann | |||
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Does an ex president generally share those plans with cronies at a country club??  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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In my view it is. Instead: Why did Trump have such classified doc? Why was he waving it around, bragging? Who were the people in attendance? Did they have security clearance? Who else did he show it to. Just disclosing there is a contingency attack plan, is not that leaking? Did he plan on selling it to the highest bidder? Did he have it as "insurance" in case he needed to extort? Is such a thing forbidden by law? Is he going to be held accountable? And so forth. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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All of the above questions are valid. If Trump misused classified documents in a manner that compromised our security, then he is guilty of treason. If he did that, I hope that he receives the maximum sentence. I will be interested in hearing more as the case unfolds. But, since we will have to wait on those details, I have a question for all of you: It has been spun that the documents that Trump took were a sort of manifesto outlining how we will/are going to topple middle eastern governments in an attempt to replace them with puppet governments. If that is truly what is in the documents, a detailed plan of neo-colonization in the the Middle East, would that make a difference in how we should view this breach? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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It’s not the first time he has done it https://www.independent.co.uk/...uments-b2143733.html He is more concerned about his own self aggrandisement than anything else. How the US electorate can be so dumb as to elect such a complete moron is beyond me. Even worse is that after all that has transpired there are still people who would do so again. | |||
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Iran had a peaceful election. The CIA didn’t like the results. They removed the winner and put the Shah in! The Shah was eventually removed, replaced by Khomeini. The current crop of religious zealots are the remnants of Khomeini’s regime! Practically every nasty spot in the, America had a hand in it! And now they cannot even run their own country! Trump or Biden??  | |||
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Seems there are a lot of MAGA Misfits missing from this discussion. Where is ledvm, JTEX, Mr. Eight Figures, etc. They go quiet whenever Trump shits in their hand. They will never give up on him, they just wipe their hand off, and go quiet.......until the next time he shits in their hand. | |||
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Trump is looking worse and worse. | |||
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That's speculation. It's akin to conspiracy theory. In this case, it's not fun or useful to speculate, IMO. After all, it's just one piece of evidence. And, "any day now" the other indictment(s) by Jack Smith will hit the fan. Plus the pending case in Georgia. This shit-show has just begun. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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My impression is these are not some manifesto, but standard OP for being prepared in case a hostile to US interests Nation-State gets froggy. What would be worse is Iran doing something, and then having to figure out how to respond. | |||
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And what nitwit let him read it in the first place? TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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This. Yukking it up with his golf buddies about top secret contingency plans to attack Iran so he can feel important. He's mentally ill. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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I agree that it is speculation, which is why I referred to it as “spin”. What isn’t speculation at this point? We know that Trump took top secret documents, and lied about it, tried to cover it up, but not much else. And the claim that it the documents were simply a defensive plan are also speculation at this point. Unless you guys have read the materials?? Nothing that Trump does makes a lot of sense, unless you look at him as a narcissist/egomaniac. So ask yourself this: what would a narcissist/egomaniac gain from showing off a defensive strategy handbook? Would that make Trump’s enemies look bad in the eyes of the American public? But if it was some type of neocolonial manifesto detailing how we are actively manipulating the Middle East for the purpose of controlling that part of the world along with their oil… I can see how one would serve a narcissist, but the other I can’t imagine even Trump thinking it would gain him anything other than scorn and a treason charge. Taking top secret documents for the purpose of blackmail or whatever, is treasonous, full stop. So my question still stands: If these documents are proof of a nefarious plan by our government to control the ME, will that affect your opinion of this whole situation? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I really don't have a problem with Trump discussing these topics as long as it with people like Kid Rock. https://www.independent.co.uk/...o-maps-b2355972.html | |||
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Right? Even Kid Rock was like WTF? He'll probably be offered SecDef position if trump wins. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Uh,...... actually I was thinking that after the reasonable and diplomatic response Kid Rock made regarding the Tranny/ Budlite controversy he'd be Trump's ambassador to the UN or Secretary of State or mebbe "Special Jack Daniel's Emissary" or something. What? | |||
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Did I leave out, considerate and, "Choose Love"? Sorry, I meant to say Kid Rock's considerate and, "Choose Love" response. Shit I think that's funny.  | |||
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"We know that Trump took top secret documents" Not my dog, not my fight but I have always read that he was found in possession of "classified" documents; never saw the words "Secret" or "Top Secret". Granting the benefit of doubt that he was in fact found in possession of Secret and Top Secret documents, question begs: - how he was able to gain access, Presidential status notwithstanding? - how was he able to remove them from an area virtually inaccessible to God? - how and why he was able to retain them for so long until after his Presidential appointment had lapsed? The secret archives are not manned by some sidekick of a clerk but more so by some very senior and high ranking officials who will, or have to be mentioned sometime during the proceedings. | |||
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Actually, IMO, no. Trump was POTUS. If he objected to that plan, 1. He could order it destroyed, 2. He had declassification power and could have both openly stated his predecessors made this contingency plan and that I’m bringing into public to both announce my ordering it ended and to make sure the electorate knows that this is going on, and you need to be careful of “the swamp”… Since he didn’t do either, it’s more logical it’s his narcissism shining through.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/food...c33e0b30f937f6&ei=53 Kid Rock Launches New Merch After Bud Light Fiasco Story by Jamie Burton • 11h ago ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Revealed: DOJ and Director of National Intel. can't find Trump's 'standing order' to declassify docs Story by Sarah K. Burris • 1h ago https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...c33e0b30f937f6&ei=92 ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Trump is a lying narcissist and all the bullshit excuses by his sycophants can’t change that. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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