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…Trumps transgressions are too trivial to prosecute. Then I read about a guy in Virginia who was accused of $4,146.85 worth of check fraud, and he got 12 years. Trumps lawyer has already gone to prison for participating in the same action re: the Stormy Daniels debacle that Trump instructed him to do. But Trumps minions hold him innocent, while the causal charges relate to tax fraud, not payoffs to a porn star. Are politicians above the law? Or just Republican politicians perhaps? If one politician is above the law, are they not all? How long do you think “Freedom and Liberty” would survive if that were the case? Would ignoring his actions not be precedent setting? I’m serious. I think it’s imperative that anyone who transgresses as blatantly and crudely as Donald Trump has, that his actions be examined in a court of law with even greater diligence than those of a common man. If one man can go to prison for a trivial check fraud, then a national leader - an exemplar to a nation of 320 million people - must be dealt with even more seriously. | ||
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Paying hush money isn’t illegal. Being a world class cad like Trump isn’t illegal. Using donated or government political money is, and it may well be some law prohibits hush money being paid in political cases. The whole Stormy Daniels issue is out there. I doubt any voter hasn’t heard of it. Whether it changes who they vote for is a different matter. The little fly in the ointment with this is that there have been many politicians who have paid hush money who have gotten no prosecution. From a high level, Clinton is an obvious one. Whether cash or quid pro quo, I really doubt Bill didn’t get his penis induced problems to go away… So the righties who wanted something done re WJC now are saying why is Trump being prosecuted? It looks like the prosecutors (of leftist bent) have decided that like Al Capone, they know Trump has done “something” and even the most minimal item they can get him on is justified. When it was Clinton, the left’s cry was “it’s just sex!” and now they are hypocritically demanding blood… of course, it’s equally hypocritical for the right to be defending the clown, but the right also has the obvious argument of precedent. Face it, you have to realize Obama was the exception rather than the rule that the president was morally scandal free… and one might say his daughter’s partying and getting pulled out by the secret service might be a hint of issue even there. | |||
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The forever trump apologist. Oh, well yeah, trump violated federal law by using campaign contributions to pay off his porn actress girlfriend but let's talk about something from last century!!! And, let's impugn President Obama's daughters because something might have been up there too....ridiculous. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Are those the daughters that scooped up 35 trade licenses with China while daddy was POTUS? Or the son-in-law who scored two billion dollars from the Saudis while acting as an impromptu foreign policy advisor who was refused a security clearance? Or the son who flat out said “We get all the money we need out of Russia”? Gee…if we’re talking about a ‘hint of an issue’…. | |||
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If he used campaign funds, then he will pay the price. I’m fine with that. But you need to wake up. The left has been screaming that Trump has done pretty much everything including treason. Then a big nothingburger of arrest for misuse of funds that most end up quietly paying a fine for. (I haven’t heard Omar did the perp walk for misuse of campaign funds yet?) Yet he’s being charged by a DA in NYC about campaign fund misuse 4 years after the story breaks? I have no concerns if he did the crime, do the time, or in this case the usual is to pay a fine. As to Obama’s daughters… it was in the news about one of them being at a party and the SS pulled her out just before the party was raided and numerous kids were arrested for underage consumption. Rule of law? Obama has been the least personally involved in these kinds of issues… but some of it is the media favorably views him. Heck, even Carter had some scandals.
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Paying hush money for purpose of election is illegal regardless of what pot the money came from. Ask Cohen. He will tell you. Your statement on the law is incorrect. You can ask John Edwards too. I Democrat who was prosecuted for the exact same thing. President Trump is not being unduly targeted. The jury hung on Edwards, but it did get to the hurt surviving directed verdict. We have done it to Dems. According to Giuliani President Trump filed false mandatory disclosures when he failed to disclose Cohen. Giuliani, in an interview Wednesday with The New York Times, said Trump personally paid Cohen “$460,000 or $470,000” after the 2016 presidential election in monthly installments — both to reimburse Cohen for the $130,000 he fronted Daniels and “incidental expenses.” But Trump, as a presidential candidate and president, must file annual personal financial disclosure reports that detail various financial holdings, income sources and debts. Trump, on his signed 2017 personal financial disclosure, did not disclose a debt to Cohen or a Cohen-related entity, as described by Giuliani. | |||
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ask John Kerry and Hillary. they'll both tell you how much time they got for doing the exact same thing. | |||
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If, "We the People" are going to retain any sort of liberty and self governance, there going to have to be a whole lot more, " lock him/ her up!" and it's going to have to be non partisan. In my opinion there's any number of good reasons for trump to be in prison. Although I like the guy quite a bit, I also believe "W" should have been criminally convicted for suspending the rights of Americans he declared Enemy Combatants. Clinton, ( the Clintons,) lied under oath, Nixon,..... Any number of governors, Senators, Sheriff's and Chiefs knowingly break the law, commit crimes and get away. Sure some of the smaller guys like Blagojevich wear handcuffs, but we let far too many get away. Trump doesn't fear consequences. That's role modeling from the top down. If the BLM looters in Minneapolis get a free pass the BLM looters in Mayberry will expect the same. It's too late I think, this ship is humongous and already sailed, but as a friend of mine says, " if they don't want to be good, they need to fear the consequences of not doing good.". They have no fear, Trump and all the rest have no fear. | |||
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Good post, Scott. I couldn't agree more. | |||
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I do think we're too far gone. Newsome is only interested in attacking conservatives, State of CA be damned. Trump is only interested in attacking everyone not him, everyone be damned. It doesn't matter how lefty insane the Dems are, "GOP evil!" It doesn't matter how righty insane the GOP is, http://forums.accuratereloadin...3811043/m/7181080472 "Dem evil" Seriously! It's "WW Z" and the zombies have actually won.  | |||
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