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Over the years, different members on here have taunted me re NZs gun laws. Going so far as to say it would be over their cold dead bodies if similar happened in the US. Well it looks like the first state is heading that way. https://www.themeateater.com/h...5yBJsiw8SVzKUEfztohQ Ill be interested in seeing the obituaries. | ||
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do not celebrate on what happen to your country ... to others especially on that one ... gun licensing or ownership only by license and gun registration are proving only one thing they will lead to confiscation and do not provide any safety as the criminals will always get the tools they need legally or not ... you cannot buy legally anymore handguns in canada in most of the cases do you think it stopped the use of them by criminals? | |||
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Interesting article. My initial impression is that the proposed law is unconstitutional as violating the Second Amendment. Someone will sue, and we'll find out. | |||
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That is a clear violation of Heller and NcDonald. It is dead on arrival in our Fed courts. | |||
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My comment is exactly the opposite. Its a comment on others who seemed to delight in what happened to us because couldnt happen to them. | |||
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life is always changing and the policies in every country can affect us more or less but i will repeat do not celebrate because others were delighted about what happened to you ... some of new zealanders were happy about the gun registration and the needs for a gun license to purchase firearms or ammo but it will lead to confiscation: exactly what happened to you, australia, france, canada, uk and many other western countries. it is a shame in those days but let s try to see what the gun owners of colorado are doing and maybe trump will do something if he really cares ... | |||
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What fools. Colorado had that Venezuelan gang running amok in iirc Aurora CO, but have decided that good Americans like Steve Bertram or Chuck 375 are the real dangers to society if they have a 223 in the closet or behind the garage door. It should be mandatory in CO that people like Steve and Chuck are appropriately armed in order to curb the Venezuelans. | |||
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I'm more likely to have a 10 bore double rifle in the closet than a .223 but point well taken. If I miss with the big ten, the perp should be be either blinded by the light or singed to crisp by 280 grains of black powder.  Either way works for me. | |||
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Make sure the 10 ga is leaning against the fire extinguisher Steve!! That is a lot of fire coming out the barrels. | |||
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I’ve always held that the .223/5.56 round was simply for the ‘spray & pray’ crowd. Any rifleman worth the name will have greater effect with one .338 Lapua cartridge than Bubba will with his magazine full of 5.56. | |||
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20 in reach and 9 on my nightstand does it for me Every room has gun available Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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Why do you live in such fear? I find it hard to believe that you live in a place that's so dangerous that you need a gun in every room. I dont think that NZ is that different too the US, yet Ive never felt the need, or needed a gun available in that way. You obviously have no kids about. | |||
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Yeah, anytime we had to clear rooms, we would say " I wish I had a .338 Lapua right now"  | |||
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If you read my post again, you’ll notice that I specified ‘rifleman’, as opposed to unskilled ‘spray & pray’ goon who gets off on killing people. | |||
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Please tell me, how often a civilian comes under threat from several hundred yards, as opposed to a B&E? I'm sure your .338 has come to your rescue numerous times right? | |||
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Why would I need ‘rescue’? I tend to mind my own business and not accumulate a lot of enemies - and I don’t go to other peoples countries to ‘clear rooms’ and kill strangers for my masters like a brainwashed little zombie. The only enemies I perceive at the moment are just across our southern border. | |||
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Not the OP, and I do think the odds of something happening are remote- but so is having a fire, or radon gas buildup, or lightning hit your home- yet you take preventative precautions regarding them, some are even required by law. I have no issues with a person preparing for an unlikely event. Honestly, if I thought I needed my CCW permit/gun, I would modify my acts so as to not think I needed it if at all possible. My handicapped uncle had guns stashed throughout his home because he knew he could not escape. He let his responsible family members know, and did not have kids or other irresponsible types in his house. When he died, I was the one who had to go through and find all of them and remove them, as I was considered the one who could do it safest. He lived 60 years and never needed the guns, but they did give him great comfort of mind. I agree with your implication that the gun owner needs to be responsible about the weapon, and keeping them away from any lawfully present irresponsible actor is part of that… whether it’s a senile spouse, a child, or even themselves while unable to make reasoned choices. I do think your (collective) government denying you the right to defend yourself in the reasonable manner of your choice is a sign of governmental oppression.
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alas you are right: I do think your (collective) government denying you the right to defend yourself in the reasonable manner of your choice is a sign of governmental oppression. | |||
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I agree, Our laws went too far. My comment was more that when this issue has come up, the comments from some directed my way have been that somehow we are less for letting it happen, and that if it were to happen in the states there would be blood on the streets type of thing. So my tongue in cheek/sarcastic question was where are the bodies? Implying that the average law abiding citizen of any nation is not that dissimilar. | |||
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Well dickweed. If you want to go on a demented old man ramble thats fine. But, you quoted two people talking about home self defense. you piped up, the 223 is no good, should use a 338 Lapua.  Now you are saying you dont need anything. The 5.56/223, 762x39 and 9 mm are all easy to shoot cartridges that will serve anyone, despite dickweeds non-experience. I would say to use softpoints, to prevent over penetration. We all have jobs. For a number of years, mine was to be the tip of the spear. They make more people everyday. Yours was to pollute the planet with the fossil fuels industry. We only have one planet. Who's the zombie? | |||
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It’s not fear at all as I never lock doors ever It’s just you never know, thief, bear… And it was like that even when kids were growing up Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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Handguns are banned here too, although there is a min barrel length (that I can't be bothered to check) and those over that are allowed. The ban was introduced in response to a spree shooting by the government air the time. A typical knee jerk reaction which I don't agree with. If the licensing requirements at the time had been correctly enforced by the police the perp should never have had access to a handgun. That said I don't see the need to own one for self defence. My work takes me to all kinds of places in the UK, some very deprived, and I cannot say that there is anywhere in this country that I have ever felt unsafe, either out and about or in my own home. | |||
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Nute, what is the most frequent method of homicide in the UK? | |||
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