Extraordinary visuals. I do not think I have ever seen a discussion between two heads of state descending into such an angry and chaotic exchange. Putin must be dancing with glee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c625ex282zzt

The embarrassment continues...

the absolute idiocy of the trump admin in this is staggering

"he was disrespectful" .. SO WHAT --

One could have legitimate complaints against NATO/EU/Western Europe but to completely dismantle alliances and strengths built up over seven decades in a matter of few weeks is staggering and beggars belief. To think that there isn't a single voice of caution in the entire administration is scary. I used to think that American institutions are stronger than any one single individual. I am not sure anymore. I say these words out of disappointment, apprehensions and, frankly, fear for our future.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
The embarrassment continues...

How did this make its way to YouTube?

I completely agree with the posts above. Stunningly embarrassing. Elect a clown, expect a circus.

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Originally posted by TomP:

How did this make its way to YouTube?

It was a public meeting in front of the press.

It's amusing to watch JD Vance lecture Zelensky about telling countries how they should behave after last week's Vance shit-show at the Munich Security Conference.

The trump administration has adopted Putin's talking points. It's just that simple. This administration is an embarrassment. The entire world are shaking their heads in disbelief.

It wasn't even a fair fight. Two humiliated clowns and one titanic hero who people will know about for centuries to come.

That video was simply appalling. oj and his butt boy are an embarrassment to the principals of diplomacy.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
That video was simply appalling. oj and his butt boy are an embarrassment to the principals of diplomacy.

Ass-clowns.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
It's amusing to watch JD Vance lecture Zelensky about telling countries how they should behave after last week's Vance shit-show at the Munich Security Conference.

The trump administration has adopted Putin's talking points. It's just that simple. This administration is an embarrassment. The entire world are shaking their heads in disbelief.

I didn't find it amusing. It made me sad. With his show in Munich, With Starmer, and now, Vance has shown himself to be nothing more than a post turtle.
I mean Vance saying he's watched a video on conscription in Ukraine. come on!

Vance’s role there was clearly just to be Trump’s cheerleader.

In the wake of a war that has seen several hundred thousand combat deaths and over 7 million displaced persons. Sad. Embarrassing. Pathetic. Indefensible.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Vance’s role there was clearly just to be Trump’s cheerleader.

Can you imagine any other administration where a VP would jump in and take that role in front of the press in an Oval Office meeting?

I'm just surprised Elon wasn't there wearing his ridiculous MAGA outfit so he could cheerlead and spew his two cents.

I don't know why anyone would expect any better from Trump. He said what he was going to do before the election, and anyone paying a shred of attention could tell what kind of man he is.

Trump is Trump. I'm more embarrassed for the plurality of American voters who put him into the most powerful position on the planet. I think a real majority of Americans (people who didn't vote included) do not approve of Trump's antics.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Vance’s role there was clearly just to be Trump’s cheerleader.

Trump had probably been told by somebody (whom he probably fired) that he was eaten alive by Macron. He was just too afraid he would look like a raving lunatic compared to Zelensky, so he brought Vance as an emotional suport dog. It didn't go too well.

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Originally posted by HerrBerg:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
Vance’s role there was clearly just to be Trump’s cheerleader.

Trump had probably been told by somebody (whom he probably fired) that he was eaten alive by Macron. He was just too afraid he would look like a raving lunatic compared to Zelensky, so he brought Vance as an emotional suport dog. It didn't go too well.

Excellent observation. After having Macron pat him on the arm and treat him like the clueless, fact-free moron that he is, he probably felt like he needed to flex with Zelensky.

And Putin can hardly contain his glee, un-fucking-believable

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...09bef9475c9957&ei=55

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Originally posted by RobinOLocksley:

quote:

Originally posted by TomP:

How did this make its way to YouTube?

It was a public meeting in front of the press.

About as inappropriate as anything I've ever seen on a computer screen.
Will someone please tell Trump how to spell holomodor? I know, it's one of those big words.
The kind he probably let slide by once he had enough right ones on the quiz for a "C".
The kind every Ukranian first grader can spell in two languages...

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
And Putin can hardly contain his glee, un-fucking-believable

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...09bef9475c9957&ei=55

Pretty much tells you everything you need to know, doesn't it?

The United States is now allied with the Russian invader of Ukraine.

I'm curious about the lack of commentary from the trumptards here on the board?

Nothing to say?

Can't defend it?

Ashamed you voted for it and caused it?

You should be.

Trump and Vance proved why America is now viewed by the world as a 3rd world country.

Putin sent a coward to take down Zelensky. All those years making Trump a Russian asset and what he got is someone uniting the world against Russia.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I'm curious about the lack of commentary from the trumptards here on the board?

Nothing to say?

Can't defend it?

Ashamed you voted for it and caused it?

You should be.

A few posts up, jeffeoso said it plain and honest.
I've had him pegged as a Trump supporter, maybe mistakenly.
Kudos, where kudos are due...

My guess this is how all of trumps private meetings are. This one spilled out into the public arena.

Winston Churchill (you know that bloke Trump has a bust of in the Oval Office). Not wearing a suit. In the White House. January 1942.



https://www.iwm.org.uk/collect...tem/object/205140997

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Originally posted by TomP:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I'm curious about the lack of commentary from the trumptards here on the board?

Nothing to say?

Can't defend it?

Ashamed you voted for it and caused it?

You should be.

A few posts up, jeffeoso said it plain and honest. Kudos.

jeffe, unlike so many trump supporters on here, isn't willing to defend the indefensible.

Mostly....

Although, I suspect as the evening wears on, we'll hear from some other folks.

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Originally posted by theback40:
My guess this is how all of trumps private meetings are. This one spilled out into the public arena.

lol....probably true.

This seems to be the topic with the most unified view of an action of Trump.

Crickets from the TX Trumpiteers…….

I think none of us are comment because we are just sitting back and watching the echo chamber this thread has become.


That meeting was off the hook terrible. For both sides.


It was terrible for both sides and I am willing to bet it is o w if the most used pieces of anti Trump propaganda during the mid-terms.

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Originally posted by Jayhawker2022:
I think none of us are comment because we are just sitting back and watching the echo chamber this thread has become.


That meeting was off the hook terrible. For both sides.


It was terrible for both sides and I am willing to bet it is o w if the most used pieces of anti Trump propaganda during the mid-terms.

Great day for Putin though comrade!

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Originally posted by Jayhawker2022:
I think none of us are comment because we are just sitting back and watching the echo chamber this thread has become.


That meeting was off the hook terrible. For both sides.


It was terrible for both sides and I am willing to bet it is o w if the most used pieces of anti Trump propaganda during the mid-terms.

That's one way of saying you can't find a way to defend it.

Maybe mention the suit again?
Or how Vance got his information On Ukraine conscription from Twitter.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

quote:

Originally posted by Jayhawker2022:
I think none of us are comment because we are just sitting back and watching the echo chamber this thread has become.


That meeting was off the hook terrible. For both sides.


It was terrible for both sides and I am willing to bet it is o w if the most used pieces of anti Trump propaganda during the mid-terms.

That's one way of saying you can't find a way to defend it.

Maybe mention the suit again?
Or how Vance got his information On Ukraine conscription from Twitter.

Not trying to defend it.

It was terrible.



It honestly could have been much worse.

Your Kween Kacking Kuhmala the Kumdumpster could have been in charge.


I guest she could have given him a Lewinsky right there in the Oval Office as is the demon rapid tradition.

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Originally posted by Jayhawker2022:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:

quote:

Originally posted by Jayhawker2022:
I think none of us are comment because we are just sitting back and watching the echo chamber this thread has become.


That meeting was off the hook terrible. For both sides.


It was terrible for both sides and I am willing to bet it is o w if the most used pieces of anti Trump propaganda during the mid-terms.

That's one way of saying you can't find a way to defend it.

Maybe mention the suit again?
Or how Vance got his information On Ukraine conscription from Twitter.

Not trying to defend it.

It was terrible.



It honestly could have been much worse.

Your Kween Kacking Kuhmala the Kumdumpster could have been in charge.


I guest she could have given him a Lewinsky right there in the Oval Office as is the demon rapid tradition.

Just explain how you support Reagan's life work fighting the Soviets and at the same time support Trump sucking Putin's dick?

Things that make you go hmmmm?

. . . speaking of preoccupations, you seem preoccupied with trying to express everything is some sexual connotation. Maybe you need to get out more.

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Not trying to defend it.

It was terrible.

That's all you really needed to say.

quote:

Your Kween Kacking Kuhmala the Kumdumpster could have been in charge.


I guest she could have given him a Lewinsky right there in the Oval Office as is the demon rapid tradition.

The rest is just a indictment on your own personality.
Misogyny and double standard.

Plenty of reasons to dislike Kamala and believe she would have been a terrible choice for sure, But you inability to elucidate them is telling.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

quote:

Originally posted by Jayhawker2022:
I think none of us are comment because we are just sitting back and watching the echo chamber this thread has become.


That meeting was off the hook terrible. For both sides.


It was terrible for both sides and I am willing to bet it is o w if the most used pieces of anti Trump propaganda during the mid-terms.

That's one way of saying you can't find a way to defend it.

Maybe mention the suit again?
Or how Vance got his information On Ukraine conscription from Twitter.

he will trust me ...

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:

quote:

Not trying to defend it.

It was terrible.

That's all you really needed to say.

quote:

Your Kween Kacking Kuhmala the Kumdumpster could have been in charge.


I guest she could have given him a Lewinsky right there in the Oval Office as is the demon rapid tradition.

The rest is just a indictment on your own personality.
Misogyny and double standard.

Plenty of reasons to dislike Kamala and believe she would have been a terrible choice for sure, But you inability to elucidate them is telling.

To be expecting from someone living in their mother's basement.....

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by Jayhawker2022:
I think none of us are comment because we are just sitting back and watching the echo chamber this thread has become.


That meeting was off the hook terrible. For both sides.


It was terrible for both sides and I am willing to bet it is o w if the most used pieces of anti Trump propaganda during the mid-terms.

Great day for Putin though comrade!

at least if some people hidden somewhere had no clue: it is now the time to find out who the usa is sidding with ...