I do not think this should be the roll of our government- To promote certain lifestyles.

Biden State Dept Celebrating Pride Month Everywhere Except the Muslim World

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State Dept Pushes LGBTQ ‘Pride’ Everywhere Except Muslim World

U.S. embassies celebrate "Pride Month" from the Vatican to Jerusalem, but not in Saudi Arabia.

June 5, 2023 by Daniel Greenfield

In June, United States embassies across the world get ready for the biggest patriotic celebration of the year. Flags are taken out of the attic, ironed and hoisted in rainbow swirls across the sky.

From Europe to Latin America to Asia, Africa and Oceania, the new flag of the nation flies across what used to be the worldwide diplomatic outposts of the United States of America.

This is done without regard to the religious feelings or sensibilities of the host nation.
In Vatican City, the U.S. Embassy flew the rainbow flag and tweeted that it “stands with the LBGTQI+ community against discrimination and other forms of persecution because of who they are and whom they love.”

In Jerusalem, outgoing Ambassador Tom Nides cheerfully declared “Shabbat Shalom” from a gay pride parade that featured a drag queen. Nides had made no comment about the murder of Meir Tamari, the 20th person in Israel killed by Islamic terrorists so far this year.

In India, Ambassador Eric Garcetti, the former Los Angeles mayor whose inappropriate nomination had barely survived the scandal of his aide sexually harassing men, broadcast a video in which he raised the pride flag, with more dedication and drama than the Marines at Iwo Jima, before delivering a speech about the importance of the LGBTQ movement.

In Paris, the embassy celebrated “#IncroyableDiversité” while the embassy in Moscow put up a rainbow mural of Biden declaring in Russian that, “Pride is a celebration of generations of LGBTQI+ people, who have fought bravely to live openly and authentically.”

In Port-au-Prince, Haiti, a country where the people are starving, children are being sold as sex slaves and the streets belong to gangs, the white ambassador convened white staff members to attend a Pride Month ceremony. The wind was blowing hard and the participants might have smelled ash, misery and human waste. Some of the locals have taken to setting each other on fire, but surely they appreciated the ambassador’s thoughts on LGBTQ pride.

Few Americans were in attendance since the embassy had previously issued an alert warning tourists not to come “due to kidnapping, crime, civil unrest, and poor health care infrastructure.”

But while State Department facilities from Bogota, Columbia to Pretoria, South Africa put aside their pressing business to celebrate Pride Month, and the embassies in Warsaw, Poland and the Philippines joined in, there were notable exceptions from the global celebration of ‘Pride’.

The United States embassy in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia bafflingly neglected Pride Month. In Islamabad, Pakistan, insult was added to injury when the embassy instead commemorated Urs, a festival marking the death of a Sufi saint, without even a single rainbow emoji in view.

The Saudis would seem to be more in need of hearing about gay rights than the Haitians or the French since under Sharia law the penalty for pride is being stoned to death. The Pakistanis could also use a few rainbow flags since they lock up gay people while freeing terrorists.
The Biden administration recently vented its outrage because Uganda passed some laws criminalizing homosexuality. There has been talk of threatening one of the poorest nations in the world with sanctions. But where are the sanctions for Saudi Arabia? Or other Muslim countries?

A decade ago, Brunei brought back Sharia law and the death penalty for homosexuality. The US embassy in Bandar Seri Begawan failed to mention Biden’s views on ‘Pride’ and instead promoted ‘Sports Diplomacy’ through soccer. There are no sanctions for Sharia law.

And no mention of Pride Month in our outreach to the Muslim world.

Pride Month was missing in action in Baghdad, where the U.S. embassy has enough problems since the only thing Iraqi Sunni and Shiite Muslims agree on is trying to kill them. If the Kuwait embassy celebrated the Stonewall riot, they kept it to themselves. No rainbow flags could be seen in Jordan where all the focus was on the royal marriage of its dictator. Nancy Pelosi recorded a message on the marriage, but sadly had nothing to say about LGBT rights.

The same was true in Yemen, currently caught in a civil war between Sunnis and Shiites over who gets to impose Sharia law on whom. Neither side will be particularly interested in any rainbow flags. And Biden isn’t interested in telling either side about ‘Pride Month’.

The US Embassy in Cairo focused on Jill Biden’s visit to Egypt where she met with women wearing hijabs and pretended to understand what they were saying to her. The honored doctor made no mention of the LGBTQ movement to the women in the hijabs.
While the U.S. Embassy in Bern, Switzerland urged, “This month and every month, let us celebrate the pride that powers the movement for LGBTQI+”, the message did not reach the U.S. Embassy in Algiers. “Pride Month is kicking off in the U.S. today! We’d love to know: What does Pride mean to you,” the U.S. Embassy in Brussels asked. But the U.S. Embassy to the UAE instead bafflingly urged the locals to come to Michigan to get degrees in Arabic Language..

But that’s how you get more Muslim Brotherhood members and win elections in Michigan.

To understand the mystery of why some embassies and consulates, but not others, celebrate Pride Month, take a trip to Kabul. Not literally, as that would be a worse idea than visiting Haiti or Baltimore, but via the digital outposts of the nation’s failed diplomatic empire.

In 2021, the US Embassy in Kabul tweeted, “The month of June is recognized as (LGBTI) Pride Month. The United States respects the dignity & equality of LGBTI people & celebrates their contributions to the society. We remain committed to supporting civil rights of minorities, including LGBTI persons. #Pride2021 #PrideMonth.”
In August 2021, the Taliban took Kabul. The embassy ‘saigoned’ itself out of there, but not before costing at least 13 American lives, and is now permanently virtual. The collapse of Afghanistan is not enough to shut down any part of the State Department. Despite being unable to operate in Kabul, the U.S. Embassy continues to conduct its business. Foreign aid, which was 99% of our function in Afghanistan, continues to flow by the billions to the terrorists.

The U.S. Embassy in Kabul has taken the time out to celebrate ‘Mother’s Day’ in Pashtun (a people that believes that mothers should be ‘burkaed’ and beaten, not heard), ‘Asian American, Native Hawaiian, & Pacific Islander Heritage Month’ and ‘World Press Freedom Day’ in a nation where the only free press is living in caves.

Afghans with access to Twitter are informed that there are over 2,700 mosques in America.
Most of those Afghans can only wonder what the hell is wrong with America. The U.S. Embassy in Kabul (not actually in Kabul) believes that the one thing that can give Afghans hope is the knowledge that the Taliban aren’t just taking over in their country, but also in America.
Among all this diplomat-ish nonsense, the one thing you won’t find the U.S. Embassy in Kabul tweeting about is Pride Month or displaying any colorful rainbow flags.

What happened between Pride Month 2021 in Kabul and all the lost pride months since?

Afghanistan, like the rest of the Muslim world, is now fully run under Sharia law. We didn’t have to worry about offending the old puppet regime, but we strive not to offend the Taliban.

There’s no more talk of Pride Month to Afghans, no lesbian studies or any of the stuff that our diplomats used to waste their time on while American boys were fighting and dying in valleys.
The Biden administration will fly its Pride flags in Vatican City and Jerusalem, but you won’t hear about it in Riyadh, Doha, Islamabad or Kabul. In the great intersectional roundabout, Muslims are higher on the totem pole than ever drag queens and not a word must be said to offend them. It’s alright to offend Catholics and Orthodox Jews, but thou shalt not cross a Koranist.

The flags of Pride Month fly from Warsaw to Bogota, and from Oslo to Port-au-Prince, but the army of pride doesn’t venture to hang its banners in Baghdad, and never mind, Benghazi.

Like feminism, the LGBTQ movement stops at the line in the sand drawn by Sharia law.

And the Biden administration, the State Department, and the alphabet soup activists are fine with that, because it was never about rights, but about bringing down western civilization.

There’s no need to hang up flags in Riyadh, when your goal is to destroy Rome and Jerusalem.

Daniel Greenfield

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic terrorism.

You mean like all those folks who want to insist that the government only acknowledge marriage as being between a man and a woman, who want to ensure that anything not heterosexual in orientation be banned from public institutions, who condemn anything other traditional heterosexual practices as being deviant and immoral . . . you mean like those advocating that the government should only promote that lifestyle?

Marriage is to promote families!

How can two men getting married going to produce a family!

How can two women getting married going to produce a family?

Why is Ann obsessed with Gay people?

Overcompensating for something?

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Originally posted by MJines:
You mean like all those folks who want to insist that the government only acknowledge marriage as being between a man and a woman, who want to ensure that anything not heterosexual in orientation be banned from public institutions, who condemn anything other traditional heterosexual practices as being deviant and immoral . . . you mean like those advocating that the government should only promote that lifestyle?

Would it make you feel better if I had said government shouldn't be promoting any 'lifestyles' if they can't promote them all, right?

I get what Anne is saying. I feel the same way about our government currently.

I couldn't give two pins about someones sexual orientation. I really don't care. What I do care about is when something is rammed down our throats, like the current social engineering that is pushing the "trans" agenda. Honestly, who cares. But, when you end up with what amounts to an army of zealots that are forcing their agenda upon everyone, and politicians who are either riding the wave for their own purposes or which are scared shitless of saying anything that might provoke the zealots into ruining their lives...well it has gone too far.

Sorry but the way this is being done is bullshit...and I am referring to our governments grandstanding as well, not just what Anne has posted is happening within the politics of the Good Old US of A.

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Originally posted by Skyline:
I get what Anne is saying. I feel the same way about our government currently.

I couldn't give two pins about someones sexual orientation. I really don't care. What I do care about is when something is rammed down our throats, like the current social engineering that is pushing the "trans" agenda. Honestly, who cares. But, when you end up with what amounts to an army of zealots that are forcing their agenda upon everyone, and politicians who are either riding the wave for their own purposes or which are scared shitless of saying anything that might provoke the zealots into ruining their lives...well it has gone too far.

Sorry but the way this is being done is bullshit...and I am referring to our governments grandstanding as well, not just what Anne has posted is happening within the politics of the Good Old US of A.

What is being rammed down your throat and how?

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Originally posted by Skyline:
But, when you end up with what amounts to an army of zealots that are forcing their agenda upon everyone, and politicians who are either riding the wave for their own purposes or which are scared shitless of saying anything that might provoke the zealots into ruining their lives...well it has gone too far.

I am sure that it would not surprise you to learn that some feel exactly the same way about the evangelical right. Zealots that want to force their own religious-driven agenda on everyone else, e.g., abortion restrictions, book banning, prayers in schools, restrictions on the ability of persons to get treatment for sexual orientation issues, etc. Why is it okay for the government to intervene to advance some agendas but not others? And it generally seems that the agenda that it is okay for the government to advance just so happens to coincide with the agenda of the person supporting the government's role in advancing it. Pot meet kettle.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Skyline:
But, when you end up with what amounts to an army of zealots that are forcing their agenda upon everyone, and politicians who are either riding the wave for their own purposes or which are scared shitless of saying anything that might provoke the zealots into ruining their lives...well it has gone too far.

I am sure that it would not surprise you to learn that some feel exactly the same way about the evangelical right. Zealots that want to force their own religious-driven agenda on everyone else, e.g., abortion restrictions, book banning, prayers in schools, restrictions on the ability of persons to get treatment for sexual orientation issues, etc. Why is it okay for the government to intervene to advance some agendas but not others? And it generally seems that the agenda that it is okay for the government to advance just so happens to coincide with the agenda of the person supporting the government's role in advancing it. Pot meet kettle.

I agree.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Skyline:
But, when you end up with what amounts to an army of zealots that are forcing their agenda upon everyone, and politicians who are either riding the wave for their own purposes or which are scared shitless of saying anything that might provoke the zealots into ruining their lives...well it has gone too far.

I am sure that it would not surprise you to learn that some feel exactly the same way about the evangelical right. Zealots that want to force their own religious-driven agenda on everyone else, e.g., abortion restrictions, book banning, prayers in schools, restrictions on the ability of persons to get treatment for sexual orientation issues, etc. Why is it okay for the government to intervene to advance some agendas but not others? And it generally seems that the agenda that it is okay for the government to advance just so happens to coincide with the agenda of the person supporting the government's role in advancing it. Pot meet kettle.

Jines,

I don't care how people want to live.

I do not think it is the roll of government to promote certain or any lifestyles. They have not, to my knowledge, promoted 'evangelicalism' or what ever you want to call it in my lifetime.

This is not good use of taxpayer's money.

There are always groups within that feel they need to impose their agenda. They are not government though. They are not using taxpayer's money to promote their agenda. When government does this they do it as representing all citizens which of course is wrong.

Do you not understand the difference?

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

I do not think it is the roll of government to promote certain or any lifestyles. They have not, to my knowledge, promoted 'evangelicalism' or what ever you want to call it in my lifetime.

You cannot seriously be that obtuse . . . I hope. Take off your blinders and look around at what is happening in many parts of the country. I will give you one example. Take a look at the number of states controlled by far right legislatures and governors that have in the last six months passed laws making it virtually impossible for a woman, even a rape or incest victim, to get an abortion. And in each instance those new laws were pushed for by far-right religious groups. Admit it, you are fine with government-imposed lifestyle restrictions so long as those restrictions align with your ideological views . . . and to those that happen to have different ideological views you say screw you.

How come the government is doin nothing to address the rampant crimes in the country?

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

I do not think it is the roll of government to promote certain or any lifestyles. They have not, to my knowledge, promoted 'evangelicalism' or what ever you want to call it in my lifetime.

You cannot seriously be that obtuse . . . I hope. Take off your blinders and look around at what is happening in many parts of the country. I will give you one example. Take a look at the number of states controlled by far right legislatures and governors that have in the last six months passed laws making it virtually impossible for a woman, even a rape or incest victim, to get an abortion. And in each instance those new laws were pushed for by far-right religious groups. Admit it, you are fine with government-imposed lifestyle restrictions so long as those restrictions align with your ideological views . . . and to those that happen to have different ideological views you say screw you.

Jines, you are really focused on abortion rights. Are you working on helping secure such rights for your own state? What are your success stories?

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

I do not think it is the roll of government to promote certain or any lifestyles. They have not, to my knowledge, promoted 'evangelicalism' or what ever you want to call it in my lifetime.

You cannot seriously be that obtuse . . . I hope. Take off your blinders and look around at what is happening in many parts of the country. I will give you one example. Take a look at the number of states controlled by far right legislatures and governors that have in the last six months passed laws making it virtually impossible for a woman, even a rape or incest victim, to get an abortion. And in each instance those new laws were pushed for by far-right religious groups. Admit it, you are fine with government-imposed lifestyle restrictions so long as those restrictions align with your ideological views . . . and to those that happen to have different ideological views you say screw you.

Jines, you are really focused on abortion rights. Are you working on helping secure such rights for your own state? What are your success stories?

Here is a perfect example!

Each one of you two is concentrating on ONE subject.

The government has no right to dictate what an individual should do about abortion .

The same as the government has no right support fringe idiots like the trans zombies!

Except I have never said govt has any right to control abortion one way or another. However, after seeing this video, I have come to understand the liberal mind of people like Jines and Mitchell.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Csthq_6IGBZ/



This has lead me to have a much better understanding of them. Perhaps in some untold years they will have eliminated themselves with abortions and gender 'transformation'.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Except I have never said govt has any right to control abortion one way or another. However, after seeing this video, I have come to understand the liberal mind of people like Jines and Mitchell.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Csthq_6IGBZ/



This has lead me to have a much better understanding of them. Perhaps in some untold years they will have eliminated themselves with abortions and gender 'transformation'.

Ann,

You in West, created this.

Everything that happens to anyone is someone else’s fault!

Including bringing you into this world, looking after you until you grew up!

What I cannot understand is what court will accept this??

Oh, sorry.

This is America.

Where everything revolves around litigation and making money for the human vermins!

No, Saeed, lawyers created this.

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What is being rammed down your throat and how?

All kinds of real shit happening in the world and this is what all we keep hearing about.

Grizz

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Except I have never said govt has any right to control abortion one way or another. However, after seeing this video, I have come to understand the liberal mind of people like Jines and Mitchell.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Csthq_6IGBZ/



This has lead me to have a much better understanding of them. Perhaps in some untold years they will have eliminated themselves with abortions and gender 'transformation'.

You understand jack shit.

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What is being rammed down your throat and how?

All kinds of real shit happening in the world and this is what all we keep hearing about.

Grizz

Are you talking about news coverage? What is being rammed down anybody's throat? The idea that folks who have a different sexual orientation than the majority still ought to be treated equally and with dignity and respect?

Seems to me like it's the whacks like Ann that want to bring this issue to the forefront and talk about it ad nauseum. It's the culture wars......what trump and desantis and all hard right republicans use to amp up support. And, it works.

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I do not think it is the roll of government to promote certain or any lifestyles

Don’t know how it works in the US but we have a tax on cigarettes/ tobacco to try to discourage people from smoking, policies to encourage people to excessive, others to ensure school kids supposedly get healthy meals, others to discourage people guzzling sugar, public information on STD’s, I’m all for it in principal.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

I do not think it is the roll of government to promote certain or any lifestyles. They have not, to my knowledge, promoted 'evangelicalism' or what ever you want to call it in my lifetime.

You cannot seriously be that obtuse . . . I hope. Take off your blinders and look around at what is happening in many parts of the country. I will give you one example. Take a look at the number of states controlled by far right legislatures and governors that have in the last six months passed laws making it virtually impossible for a woman, even a rape or incest victim, to get an abortion. And in each instance those new laws were pushed for by far-right religious groups. Admit it, you are fine with government-imposed lifestyle restrictions so long as those restrictions align with your ideological views . . . and to those that happen to have different ideological views you say screw you.

Mike -

I obviously don't post down here much, but read it regularly.

I'll take a swing at this. In my opinion, the left will NEVER decouple from the party line. On abortion, the party line is 40 weeks, no restrictions, period. I'll make a bet, you aren't a supporter of that. It's essentially murder.

Conversely, the far Right will be as harsh, but the opposite way, "life begins at conception."

It's my belief, the rank and file American, much like my belief is somewhere in between and a reasonable discussion can occur. I'm a 12-14 week guy. I would also allow for special circumstances that we all know arise. (my situation might be one of them)

However, NEITHER party, wants this solved. They want the issue, they need the issue. Case in point - in 2008 Obama had all three points of power. They could have passed literally any bill they wanted on gun control. They didn't want to, because they need the issue.

Both political parties need a divided America. It is ALL OF US that allow ourselves divided by devious political aspirations.

All the issues are a manifestation of the exact scenario I used as an example.

We are the guilty ones, and are nothing but puppets for those that use America for both personal and political gain.

Perhaps Steve. That is one reason I long for a viable third party and will continue to vote independent to support the growth of such a party. I long for a time again when reasonable minds can prevail. As you say, I think most Americans have no problem agreeing that forcing a young rape victim to carry a child to term is hideous, just as they would view a late term abortion where the mother’s life is not in danger as being a travesty. But we appear to have lost all the crayons in the box except black and white. The political parties fail to recognize any hues in between. The recent debt ceiling deal is a notable exception. A lose/lose for both sides yet the extremes in both parties scream about the inequities in the bill in order to pander to the bases on both sides. We have lost the ability to accept that compromise is what makes the system work and the truth is rarely ever at one end of the continuum or the other but is most often somewhere in the middle.

Mike -

I'm in complete agreement. However, those of us that can and do think for ourselves, are diluted by strict party line voters.

I consider myself a Conservative, probably simply due to my childhood and my lifelong partnership with firearms, hunting, the shooting sports and the outdoors in general.

The left, again "in general" are philosophically opposed to much of that. Now, with the war on fossil fuels, there really isn't a moderate position on the left.

Voting your conscience for a reasonable third party candidate, will do nothing but get Biden re-elected. I agree with you conceptually that is what we need. But allowing a second Biden term will probably result in America going past critical mass and our current policies will become permanent.


I believe the politicians divide us so we are forced to choose the lesser of the two extremes.

We are in a tremendously tumultuous time in our history.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Mike -

I'm in complete agreement. However, those of us that can and do think for ourselves, are diluted by strict party line voters.

I consider myself a Conservative, probably simply due to my childhood and my lifelong partnership with firearms, hunting, the shooting sports and the outdoors in general.

The left, again "in general" are philosophically opposed to much of that. Now, with the war on fossil fuels, there really isn't a moderate position on the left.

Voting your conscience for a reasonable third party candidate, will do nothing but get Biden re-elected. I agree with you conceptually that is what we need. But allowing a second Biden term will probably result in America going past critical mass and our current policies will become permanent.


I believe the politicians divide us so we are forced to choose the lesser of the two extremes.

We are in a tremendously tumultuous time in our history.

Except I draw the line at 60 days for elective abortion…call me a +1 for all your comments.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Mike -

I'm in complete agreement. However, those of us that can and do think for ourselves, are diluted by strict party line voters.

I consider myself a Conservative, probably simply due to my childhood and my lifelong partnership with firearms, hunting, the shooting sports and the outdoors in general.

The left, again "in general" are philosophically opposed to much of that. Now, with the war on fossil fuels, there really isn't a moderate position on the left.

Voting your conscience for a reasonable third party candidate, will do nothing but get Biden re-elected. I agree with you conceptually that is what we need. But allowing a second Biden term will probably result in America going past critical mass and our current policies will become permanent.


I believe the politicians divide us so we are forced to choose the lesser of the two extremes.

We are in a tremendously tumultuous time in our history.

To be clear, I am happy to support the GOP if they want to run a decent candidate. But I will vote third party every time over candidates like Biden and Trump. Give me a Nicki Haley or a Tim Scott and I am fine entertaining the possibility of supporting the Republicans. But I will never be a straight ticket voter when I am simply being asked to vote for the lesser of two evils. Voting for the lesser of the two evils just perpetuates evil.

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Give me a Nicki Haley or a Tim Scott

Still a really low bar.

Compared to what the Democrats have to offer and the balance of the Republican field (at the moment) they are definitely the tallest in a room full of midgets. I would rather not vote, than cast a vote for Biden or Trump.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Mike -

I'm in complete agreement. However, those of us that can and do think for ourselves, are diluted by strict party line voters.

I consider myself a Conservative, probably simply due to my childhood and my lifelong partnership with firearms, hunting, the shooting sports and the outdoors in general.

The left, again "in general" are philosophically opposed to much of that. Now, with the war on fossil fuels, there really isn't a moderate position on the left.

Voting your conscience for a reasonable third party candidate, will do nothing but get Biden re-elected. I agree with you conceptually that is what we need. But allowing a second Biden term will probably result in America going past critical mass and our current policies will become permanent.


I believe the politicians divide us so we are forced to choose the lesser of the two extremes.

We are in a tremendously tumultuous time in our history.

To be clear, I am happy to support the GOP if they want to run a decent candidate. But I will vote third party every time over candidates like Biden and Trump. Give me a Nicki Haley or a Tim Scott and I am fine entertaining the possibility of supporting the Republicans. But I will never be a straight ticket voter when I am simply being asked to vote for the lesser of two evils. Voting for the lesser of the two evils just perpetuates evil.

Case in point. Here in Arizona, Doug Ducey (the Governor) was termed out. He was talking about running for the Senate seat vacated by senator McCain's passing. it was given to Martha McSally by Ducey, as the state constitution dictates.

She had to run in the next election, again as the state constitution dictates. She lost to Mark Kelly. He's a committed leftist, gun grabber, married to Gabriel Giffords. He's a attractive candidate, Air Force combat fighter pilot, Astronaut, etc.

fast forward to the 2020 election. Ducey was considering running against Kelly. He was beating Kelly in every single poll. Problem was, Trump didn't like him due to Covid disagreements.

Ducey for some reason decided not to run in the primary. Fast forward to the general, trump endorsed candidates Blake Masters (Senate) and Kari Lake (Governor) both lost. Lake lost to a terrible candidate, Katie Hobbs. (under questionable results)

had both Ducey run for Senate and Karen Taylor Robson made the general for Governor, both would have probably won.

They were both conservatives but not up to Trumps standards and lost to lesser candidates.

Now, Mark Kelley has his first, full 6 year term and will build a war chest and will be very hard to beat.

Point is, and to your point, extreme candidates can and do win primaries, but will always struggle in the general. We lost Arizona in full, due mostly to Trumps irresponsible endorsements.

I could really get behind Tim Scott. He would actually be my ideal candidate. I would vote for Haley if she is the nominee. In the Primary, with what I know right now, it will be between Scott and DeSantis for me. I like both!

But when Trump beats them in the primaries, you’ll forget your Christian beliefs and vote for the immoral, crooked, adulterous SOB because he lowered your taxes.man, that’s impressive.

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But when Trump beats them in the primaries, you’ll forget your Christian beliefs and vote for the immoral, crooked, adulterous SOB because he lowered your taxes.man, that’s impressive.

Exactly!

Beats the Sam Hill out of any Democrat…by lightyears!

Damn shame your Christian beliefs have such shallow roots that lower taxes trump(pun intended) morals. Not a good look.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Damn shame your Christian beliefs have such shallow roots that lower taxes trump(pun intended) morals. Not a good look.

Even Trump has more in common with Christianity than any (D).

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Damn shame your Christian beliefs have such shallow roots that lower taxes trump(pun intended) morals. Not a good look.

Even Trump has more in common with Christianity than any (D).

Nut. Job.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Damn shame your Christian beliefs have such shallow roots that lower taxes trump(pun intended) morals. Not a good look.

Even Trump has more in common with Christianity than any (D).

. . . wonder if God would judge Trump that way relative to Biden. I sincerely doubt it.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Damn shame your Christian beliefs have such shallow roots that lower taxes trump(pun intended) morals. Not a good look.

Even Trump has more in common with Christianity than any (D).

You mean Donald grab them by the pussy, death and destruction, Clorox and UV light, fight like hell, Putin is a genius, pay off Stormy Daniels Trump? That Donald Trump? So lower taxes is the be all and end all? Give not unto Caesar is the ultimate excuse.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
No, Saeed, lawyers created this.

Exactly!

If one could get rid of the bloody lawyers in a stroke. America would become world leader again!

The Assistant Fire Chief at my place is a Dartmouth educated, life saving, commercial salmon fishing, father of two, husband of one, Obama voter. Sits on the local Lutheran church board, exclusively votes Democrat. Is kind, humble, generous and I suspect can't stand Trump.

I guess I'll never vote like my assistant fire chief does, but I see much more of Jesus in him than I do in The Donald.

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Damn shame your Christian beliefs have such shallow roots that lower taxes trump(pun intended) morals. Not a good look.

Even Trump has more in common with Christianity than any (D).

You mean Donald grab them by the pussy, death and destruction, Clorox and UV light, fight like hell, Putin is a genius, pay off Stormy Daniels Trump? That Donald Trump? So lower taxes is the be all and end all? Give not unto Caesar is the ultimate excuse.

Don't forget he's an abortionist. Really high on the right wing list of fake no-nos. And a tax cheat, stolen classified docs, etc. Not enough room on the net to list all his "attributes" liked by Lane.