And this one might be ruling you sorry lot??

Just imagine, if he ties with that stupid Bimbo, should they form a partnership?

Who would have thought that an actual candidate for POTUS would do that, make those gestures and so much more, in front of a camera and rally audience, and they cheered?

This is the American Carnage guy speaking to the people of the Carnage.

And they fake getting all insulted when they think the other guy called them garbage.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Who would have thought that an actual candidate for POTUS would do that, make those gestures and so much more, in front of a camera and rally audience, and they cheered?

This is the American Carnage guy speaking to the people of the Carnage.

And they fake getting all insulted when they think the other guy called them garbage.

Well, they have a point.

As your choice is infinitely worse!

Well, that point is obviously subjective.

Need I remind you of the definition:

"Subjective is an adjective that describes something that exists in the mind or is based on personal beliefs or feelings123. It is the opposite of objective. In philosophy, subjective refers to the way a person experiences things in his or her own mind2. In general, subjective questions are based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than on facts"

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Here's an exercise in objectivity:

Can you (plural) imagine how dark Trump supporter's worldview is? I can't but I can read the clues and facts and evidence and say that place is a form of disillusionment for the "system" and the Founding principles. IOW disrespect for country, the rule of law, the constitution, and civil society. Yet they claim patriotism and love of country.

If Trump wins or loses, the disrespect is not going to change and may eventually prevail.

But if he wins it will affect everything for the immediate future and as far out as can be predicted. In such event, the democratic process has succeeded, and we will be inhabitants of a country that has lost its resemblance and trajectory compared to the last 200 years. That will take some getting used to. But Trumpsters will get what they wanted.

I reached those assessments objectively.

Deciding whether that's a good thing or not is mostly subjective. Obviously, Trump supporters subjectively think it's a good thing to happen.

IMO, the undecided just don't get it. It's too complicated for them and/or they are too conflicted between subjectivity and objectivity to sort it out. So they abdicate and vote third party. The decided get it, either way.

Furthermore:

I started this video at 0:49 intentionally, to get to the point.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...f6939dbde80f11&ei=16

The one person who did not deny Donald Trump wants Liz Cheney executed is Donald Trump

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell has a message to young people watching their first presidential election: no presidential candidate in history has ever engaged in more personally insulting language or violent rhetoric than Donald Trump.

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Did you know that a firing squad is traditionally nine rifles?

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Well, that point is obviously subjective.

Need I remind you of the definition:

"Subjective is an adjective that describes something that exists in the mind or is based on personal beliefs or feelings123. It is the opposite of objective. In philosophy, subjective refers to the way a person experiences things in his or her own mind2. In general, subjective questions are based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than on facts"

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Here's an exercise in objectivity:

Can you (plural) imagine how dark Trump supporter's worldview is? I can't but I can read the clues and facts and evidence and say that place is a form of disillusionment for the "system" and the Founding principles. IOW disrespect for country, the rule of law, the constitution, and civil society. Yet they claim patriotism and love of country.

If Trump wins or loses, the disrespect is not going to change and may eventually prevail.

But if he wins it will affect everything for the immediate future and as far out as can be predicted. In such event, the democratic process has succeeded, and we will be inhabitants of a country that has lost its resemblance and trajectory compared to the last 200 years. That will take some getting used to. But Trumpsters will get what they wanted.

I reached those assessments objectively.

Deciding whether that's a good thing or not is mostly subjective. Obviously, Trump supporters subjectively think it's a good thing to happen.

IMO, the undecided just don't get it. It's too complicated for them and/or they are too conflicted between subjectivity and objectivity to sort it out. So they abdicate and vote third party. The decided get it, either way.

My definition is COMMON SENSE!

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COMMON SENSE

"The meaning of common sense as sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts."

Okay, I'll go with that.

per·cep·tion
[pərˈsepSHən]
noun
the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses:
"the normal limits to human perception"
the state of being or process of becoming aware of something through the senses:
"the perception of pain"
Similar:
discernment
appreciation
recognition
realization

a way of regarding, understanding, or interpreting something; a mental impression:
"Hollywood's perception of the tastes of the American public" · "we need to challenge many popular perceptions of old age"
intuitive understanding and insight:
"“He wouldn't have accepted,” said my mother with unusual perception"
Similar:
insight
perceptiveness
percipience
perspicacity

psychology
zoology
the neurophysiological processes, including memory, by which an organism becomes aware of and interprets external stimuli.

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So, has "common sense" and perception and objectivity gone amuck as evidenced with the fact that he is neck and neck with Harris in this race?

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I don't really like to post videos to help make my points because I think attention spans herein are very short.

But I'll do it anyway. This video has many points. If you don't want to listen to it all, scroll to about 8:10 through the end part that I think is most important, especially at 11:11. Note the use of the words "feel" and "believes" and "viscerally" and "aberrant" and "mounted Resistance".

At about 2:20 is the section showing how duflus the undecided are.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...ced9fe0423f569&ei=91

How a candidate as flawed as Trump kept neck and neck with Kamala Harris

Alex Wagner considers the elements in American culture and politics that kept Donald Trump, who is supremely flawed as a candidate in addition to his egregious personal defects, roughly even in polling against Kamala Harris just days before Election Day.

Time for the TX Trumpiteers to tell us he’s just joking around and really isn’t a despicable human being. That’s just about the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen anyone do in public.

It's just locker room talk, just like talking about the size of Arnold Palmer's johnson and telling stories about grabbing women by the pussy. So what that the audience included women and children?

Trump is completely devoid of class, and his supporters applaud the fact. Truly mindboggling.

Very dignified, just the guy you want for the ‘leader of the free world’ - a revolting lout who simulates oral sex with his microphone in front of a swarm of his admirers. Says a lot about his admirers.

Like I asked before, it is really a conundrum, if you are white trash are you not then by definition garbage? As an aside, by the looks of that video it doesn’t look like this was his first time.

One has to wonder, if he hadn't confiscated the interpreter's notes from that meeting, exactly how she would have memorialized the sounds in writing...

Recall that he emerged from the closed-door meeting looking like this...

Wow, that's a telling photo, Jeffive. Easy to see who dominated that meeting.

. . . looks like Trump definitely has something in his mouth in that photo.

Where’s the outrage of the Trumplicans over the Orange Jesus fellating the microphone in front of all his evangelical followers?

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Originally posted by MJines:
Where’s the outrage of the Trumplicans over the Orange Jesus fellating the microphone in front of all his evangelical followers?

He was probably just trying to send a message to some bimbo in the front row for an after-rally hookup. The MAGAts probably saw it as a tutorial.

Everyone else on planet earth saw it as a shameless and revolting old perv who’s lost his marbles.

Can I get the evangelical take on this? Is this the example you want your children to emulate?

Be patient Steve. It may take them a little while, but they will come up with a rationalization . . . or more likely a deflection. I think you are smart enough to understand they are definitely not going to directly address the issue. Maybe he was pretending to eat a popsicle?

3 Day to go.

And the truth will be revealed!

Which stupid, irrelevant, self serving, IDIOT will be ruling you for the next 4 years!

. . . you have rulers, we do not.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . you have rulers, we do not.

You might have, in a week or so.

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
. . . you have rulers, we do not.

You might have, in a week or so.

New poll out of Iowa has Harris up by 3 points.

Iowa isn't supposed to be in play considering Trump won it big both times.

. . . the evangelical Trumplicans have run away from this issue like roaches when a light comes on.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Be patient Steve. It may take them a little while, but they will come up with a rationalization . . . or more likely a deflection. I think you are smart enough to understand they are definitely not going to directly address the issue. Maybe he was pretending to eat a popsicle?

I'm leaning towards something along the lines of "The Lord works in mysterious ways"

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . you have rulers, we do not.

Yes you do.

At least we have rulers who care about their citizens.

Unlike the stupid, ignorant, selfish, zombies YOU pick in your so called “democratic” system.

You have absolutely no idea what democracy means.

You have created the most corrupt political system on earth.

LEGALLY!

No, no...that has been and always will be a Monarchy, a system where who your Daddy happens to be is all that really matters. What a point of pride and sense of accomplishment it must be knowing that you won the sperm lottery and therefore are a success

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
No, no...that has been and always will be a Monarchy, a system where who your Daddy happens to be is all that really matters. What a point of pride and sense of accomplishment it must be knowing that you won the sperm lottery and therefore are a success

I can see how proud half of you to have Commie Bimbo Kamala ruling them.

And the other half are proud to halve a MAGA ARSEHOLE !

Like the pride of being kicked out of Afghanistan !

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
No, no...that has been and always will be a Monarchy, a system where who your Daddy happens to be is all that really matters. What a point of pride and sense of accomplishment it must be knowing that you won the sperm lottery and therefore are a success

. . . let's see, your success in life could be dependent on how well you were educated, how hard you worked, how well you were mentored, how thoughtful your career choices were . . . or it could me measured by who happened to knock up your mom. What a source of pride it must be to realize that your station in life was decided through a single act of coitus.

Well, with our system being being a “Who’s The Best Liar” contest, I’m not sure we’re much better off.

We pick one, our choice lies as best it can, and we choose to swear by it. At least they don’t have to quarrel non-stop, with brief intervals of violence every four years.

A monarch must at least be careful not to piss his subjects off too much, lest they go all ‘Louis XVI’ on him.

. . . maybe when the forum members that like to preach about their faith get home from church today they will weigh in and condemn Trump's behavior in Milwaukee.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . maybe when the forum members that like to preach about their faith get home from church today they will weigh in and condemn Trump's behavior in Milwaukee.

The silence is deafening.

The Sound of Silence by Disturbed:
https://youtu.be/Bk7RVw3I8eg?si=sOBokwUccDUWslGB

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https://youtu.be/rlZZNuoRZWU?si=-FK99y7hR0dLBh1N

The Sheepdog was Astonished By the Sheep’s Behavior; She Had Done the Unthinkable!

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https://youtu.be/DbnZht12DYM?si=pBfghoqVuTKyv6gx

The West Wing

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A quip from the internet:

"In a bathroom stall, a simple message: Vote Harris. No one will know."

You can't support trump & call yourself a Christian. Oxymoron, or whatever you want to call it. I call them fake Christians & if they die claiming to believe in Christ, they better be very afraid.

. . . where oh where have all the sheep in the Orange Jesus’s flock gone? Maybe they are still trying to come up with an explanation for their kids on what OJ was doing with the microphone.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . where oh where have all the sheep in the Orange Jesus’s flock gone? Maybe they are still trying to come up with an explanation for their kids on what OJ was doing with the microphone.

I expect that photo has rendered them speechless.

. . . the man they want to be President. Amazing.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . where oh where have all the sheep in the Orange Jesus’s flock gone? Maybe they are still trying to come up with an explanation for their kids on what OJ was doing with the microphone.

They are in an intense meeting trying to come up with a 5th-grade-level insult, but none of them got past the 4th grade...

Bueller? Bueller?

Do we have an evangelical in the house who cares to defend the behavior of the fellating felon?