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25 June 2025, 04:36
jeffeosso
Dem hero and self admitted murderer charged with first degree murder
https://www.foxnews.com/us/aus...-track-meet-stabbing

Dude stabs another kid, gets half a million in go fund me, family rents big house and a caddy from the funds.

The civil trial followup, remember this is Texas, is going to be harsh


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25 June 2025, 04:39
M.Shy
Race will be first and foremost defensive posture
That’s given and defense is already going through brothers and parents and friends life stories to find anything that could be used


Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
25 June 2025, 05:56
JTEX
Hang this animal by the neck until dead!!!!
25 June 2025, 06:03
LHeym500
Well, bring 17 the S. Ct., has ruled a minor cannot be sentenced to death. I think the current S. Ct., precedent mandates juveniles cannot be sentenced to life without parole.

This is based on the 8th Amendment.
25 June 2025, 06:38
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Well, bring 17 the S. Ct., has ruled a minor cannot be sentenced to death. I think the current S. Ct., precedent mandates juveniles cannot be sentenced to life without parole.

This is based on the 8th Amendment.

17 pretty much an automatic "tried as an adult" in Texas. I don't care how Kentucky would play it


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476AR,
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25 June 2025, 06:47
LHeym500
Does not matter. Federal 8th Amendment controls.

He can be “tried as an adult.” The restrictions on penalties above are still there.

Federal S. CT., precedent controls even Texas.

He being 17 cannot be executed in any state nor sentenced to life wo parole.

If you would read the cases, I would post them for you.

It does not matter Texas to Hawaii, the S. CT., precedent applying the 8th Amendment applies the same.

If you were as informed and intelligent as you think concerning civics, you would understand my first post concerned Federal application of the 8th Amendment by the federal S. CT. The matter has nothing to do w KY or Texas distinctions what ever they may be.

The issue has nothing to do with how KY might play it. All stats have to apply the 8th Amendment to the bare minimum incorporated upon them by the S. Ct.
25 June 2025, 13:59
Saeed
Product of a very SICK society!

The one that offers rewards for reporting your neighbors having an abortion! rotflmo


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25 June 2025, 17:23
Steve Bertram
And somehow the OP has managed to refrain from posting a comment on the politically motivated murders of two politicians in Minnesota.

Tell us again about how you are unbiased Honey? pinocchio
25 June 2025, 17:36
Mike Mitchell
Where you coming up with "dem hero?"



26 June 2025, 04:08
medved
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
And somehow the OP has managed to refrain from posting a comment on the politically motivated murders of two politicians in Minnesota.

Tell us again about how you are unbiased Honey? pinocchio


when their enemies are killed they are celebrating ... don t you remember jan 6 nothing happened that day ... the same everytime is not agaisnt and they will even tell you they never voted for him lol but they are followers of the cult of the supreme leader ... and they should not even read your comments as they banned or ignored you lol
27 June 2025, 06:45
wymple
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Where you coming up with "dem hero?"


You expect a sane response from him?
27 June 2025, 06:58
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
And somehow the OP has managed to refrain from posting a comment on the politically motivated murders of two politicians in Minnesota.

Tell us again about how you are unbiased Honey? pinocchio


little stevie .. did you finish you assigned tasks yet?


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
27 June 2025, 14:48
Steve Bertram
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
And somehow the OP has managed to refrain from posting a comment on the politically motivated murders of two politicians in Minnesota.

Tell us again about how you are unbiased Honey? pinocchio


little stevie .. did you finish you assigned tasks yet?


Little big man,
I am not someone who completes assigned tasks, and certainly not from someone that I have no respect for like yourself.

Still no comment on the Minnesota murders that your teammate committed?

Coward or hypocrite? Looks like both to me Honey.
27 June 2025, 17:57
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
And somehow the OP has managed to refrain from posting a comment on the politically motivated murders of two politicians in Minnesota.

Tell us again about how you are unbiased Honey? pinocchio


little stevie .. did you finish you assigned tasks yet?


Little big man,
I am not someone who completes assigned tasks, and certainly not from someone that I have no respect for like yourself.

Still no comment on the Minnesota murders that your teammate committed?

Coward or hypocrite? Looks like both to me Honey.


That you don't see the irony is, well, ironic.


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
27 June 2025, 18:21
Steve Bertram
Hypocrite principally with a dose of cowardice for good measure.

Shame that you just can't muster a comment on the politically motivated murders in Minnesota.

The irony is the fact that you have started more than one thread about left-wing political violence, yet cannot denounce political violence from your team.

Poor lil big man.....so very small.
27 June 2025, 19:25
Kensco
"dem hero" was made up, and I can't find a report of a $500,000 Go-Fund-Me, or "family rents big house and a Caddy". Esso is just running in circles with his hair on fire.
27 June 2025, 19:49
theback40
The stabbing was on 4/2, by 4/15 the Anthony's had raised $431,000 of $500,000 asked for, by GiveSendGo.
That was easy to find.
No comment on the rest until I hear more info.
27 June 2025, 20:28
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by Kensco:
"dem hero" was made up, and I can't find a report of a $500,000 Go-Fund-Me, or "family rents big house and a Caddy". Esso is just running in circles with his hair on fire.


Ah, grandma, why is it that libs accuse others of their own actions?

That you are a ludite is well known, and that you are unable to put his name and the words go fund me into a search engine is pathetic

Here is the go fund me
https://www.givesendgo.com/HelpKarmelo

Here for house and caddy
https://x.com/AFpost/status/1912503784967659635

If you can be bothered to keep up with the topic, why are you blathering about it

As usual, I have the receipts...

Isn't it time for your nap?


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
27 June 2025, 21:23
Mike Mitchell
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Kensco:
"dem hero" was made up, and I can't find a report of a $500,000 Go-Fund-Me, or "family rents big house and a Caddy". Esso is just running in circles with his hair on fire.


Ah, grandma, why is it that libs accuse others of their own actions?

That you are a ludite is well known, and that you are unable to put his name and the words go fund me into a search engine is pathetic

Here is the go fund me
https://www.givesendgo.com/HelpKarmelo

Here for house and caddy
https://x.com/AFpost/status/1912503784967659635

If you can be bothered to keep up with the topic, why are you blathering about it

As usual, I have the receipts...

Isn't it time for your nap?


The GoFundMe is for real. Pretty sure that the allegations regarding the house and caddy are bullshit.

Bottom line is that this kid is probably going to prison for a long time. I'll predict we're going to see a Motion to Transfer Venue by the kid's lawyers if he doesn't plead out. They're going to prefer a jury pool in Dallas or Houston.

The whole thing is a damn shame and so stupid. What used to get settled by a simple fist-fight now turns into murder. I don't see any claim of self-defense going anywhere either unless there are some more facts out there that have not been reported.



27 June 2025, 21:55
jeffeosso
After being accused of profiting off the GGM, The family lawyer says they had to move due to threats, and rented a big house in a nicer neighborhood AND DID NEWS BRIEFS FROM THERE. No bs

Also included in the house video, a paper tagged escalade that reporters ran the plates and listed it as a lease, with a new paperwork date recent to report. Again, no bs

As for the quasi assertion that there is no claim of self defense , you are wrong. That's exactly what they have been saying since about day 2

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/...isco-isd-track-meet/


Why yall supporting a caught on video and self admitted murderer?


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
27 June 2025, 22:21
Mike Mitchell
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
After being accused of profiting off the GGM, The family lawyer says they had to move due to threats, and rented a big house in a nicer neighborhood AND DID NEWS BRIEFS FROM THERE. No bs

Also included in the house video, a paper tagged escalade that reporters ran the plates and listed it as a lease, with a new paperwork date recent to report. Again, no bs

As for the quasi assertion that there is no claim of self defense , you are wrong. That's exactly what they have been saying since about day 2

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/...isco-isd-track-meet/


Why yall supporting a caught on video and self admitted murderer?



I didn't say there was no claim of self-defense. I'm aware of what the kid said to the cops. It was widely reported.

I said "I don't see any claim of self-defense going anywhere either unless there are some more facts out there that have not been reported."

Where am I defending or supporting the kid? Confused



27 June 2025, 22:40
jeffeosso
I misread your lack of support for self defense in line with the rest of the ""sounds like bs" of the rest of the note. Retracted

That they rent a new big house and leased a new escalade is factual

I suspect an "ill got gains" action afterwards... they are also trying to say they haven't taken a penny of the gfm... which may be factual, but jg Wentworth would likely write them a loan against proceeds


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
27 June 2025, 22:59
Mike Mitchell
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I misread your lack of support for self defense in line with the rest of the ""sounds like bs" of the rest of the note. Retracted

That they rent a new big house and leased a new escalade is factual

I suspect an "ill got gains" action afterwards... they are also trying to say they haven't taken a penny of the gfm... which may be factual, but jg Wentworth would likely write them a loan against proceeds


I'm reading they already owned the Escalade. The house is a rental so probably not new.

I'm not sure what explains folks' willingness to send large sums of money to a kid who admitted murder. It is, of course, about race. If it was another black kid who got stabbed, I doubt the story would have even made our local papers. If so, it would have been in the metro section on page 5.



27 June 2025, 23:01
Mike Mitchell
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I misread your lack of support for self defense in line with the rest of the ""sounds like bs" of the rest of the note. Retracted

That they rent a new big house and leased a new escalade is factual

I suspect an "ill got gains" action afterwards... they are also trying to say they haven't taken a penny of the gfm... which may be factual, but jg Wentworth would likely write them a loan against proceeds


I'd guess that there is going to be a jury trial in this case depending on what sort of a plea deal gets offered....and I'm guessing the DA isn't going to be willing to offer anything the kid is going to take.

Attorney's fees are going to eat up that money.