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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
There were just 10 or so documents and it's been over 2 months since they were "discovered" so shouldn't this have been mostly investigated by now. Since it's typical to just return them and move on, it seems that someone leaked their existence just to stir shit up.

Then again maybe it was to speed up the trump case and up the odds of his being prosecuted.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Again, it seems that taking them home is more the norm than not in the political class.

I would agree that Biden is being less vocally defensive than Trump… but geez, guys, if supposedly archives knew about all Trump’s stuff because it was tracked, why didn’t they even say anything about Biden’s? If it has security markings, it’s tracked (by my limited knowledge) yet the discovery was by an attorney in Biden’s employ in a unsecured office who turned it over (I don’t necessarily buy that Joe told him to turn it in.)

I can see a difference in what has been reported so far as far as numbers, but as far as false equivalency, sorry. Multiple items that are covered, and Biden doesn’t even have the canard that he could have declassified them (whether it is at whim, as Trump claims, or a more deliberate process, Trump may have thought he could… Biden certainly knew better when he took them.)

While Trump is a miserable excuse, under the law, both did the same act. Both tried to hide it (Biden refused to answer questions initially and by the fact it didn’t come out for months showed he hoped it wouldn’t). So equivalent.

Now, I don’t know what the specifics of the material are. It could be that the Biden risk to our security is less- but Biden has shown with Hunter that he was sympathetic to his son, and Hunter was obviously selling something to the various parties involved, so there is a logical potential for harm by Biden at least as big as the lefts claim that Trump was going to sell secrets to Putin…

The big difference is Trump was belligerent about his denial of responsibility. Biden is just shutting up and letting plausible deniability go by having his staff trot out defenses.

The lefties are defending Biden every bit as much as the righties were Trump. Their guy is “different” and it should be obvious! … according to them.

If playing fast and loose with government secrets is disqualifying, as you lefties claimed over Trump, you better start advocating for impeachment…. And in Biden’s case it preexisted his election.

Now, this is not me saying Trump is exonerated (for you who claim I am an apologist- I agree Trump shouldn’t have done it, and should face his penalty- including prison time if the court so rules…) just pointing out that legally, Biden is just as, if not more guilty under the law.

But yeah, I think like Hilly, you all are convinced a guy who you claimed was so smart and ethical was too damn dumb to realize it was wrong and it is “reasonable” to claim he had no intent, which for all your comments on how dumb Trump was, you automatically assumed it was for nefarious purposes with no evidence of it.

Seems from where I sit, the government agents are taking sides on this. The way the government has been handling it is quite different.

At least Garland was smart enough to assign someone else for Biden’s case unlike his personal handling of Trump’s.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Again, it seems that taking them home is more the norm than not in the political class.

I would agree that Biden is being less vocally defensive than Trump… but geez, guys, if supposedly archives knew about all Trump’s stuff because it was tracked, why didn’t they even say anything about Biden’s? If it has security markings, it’s tracked (by my limited knowledge) yet the discovery was by an attorney in Biden’s employ in a unsecured office who turned it over (I don’t necessarily buy that Joe told him to turn it in.)

I can see a difference in what has been reported so far as far as numbers, but as far as false equivalency, sorry. Multiple items that are covered, and Biden doesn’t even have the canard that he could have declassified them (whether it is at whim, as Trump claims, or a more deliberate process, Trump may have thought he could… Biden certainly knew better when he took them.)

While Trump is a miserable excuse, under the law, both did the same act. Both tried to hide it (Biden refused to answer questions initially and by the fact it didn’t come out for months showed he hoped it wouldn’t). So equivalent.

Now, I don’t know what the specifics of the material are. It could be that the Biden risk to our security is less- but Biden has shown with Hunter that he was sympathetic to his son, and Hunter was obviously selling something to the various parties involved, so there is a logical potential for harm by Biden at least as big as the lefts claim that Trump was going to sell secrets to Putin…

The big difference is Trump was belligerent about his denial of responsibility. Biden is just shutting up and letting plausible deniability go by having his staff trot out defenses.

The lefties are defending Biden every bit as much as the righties were Trump. Their guy is “different” and it should be obvious! … according to them.

If playing fast and loose with government secrets is disqualifying, as you lefties claimed over Trump, you better start advocating for impeachment…. And in Biden’s case it preexisted his election.

Now, this is not me saying Trump is exonerated (for you who claim I am an apologist- I agree Trump shouldn’t have done it, and should face his penalty- including prison time if the court so rules…) just pointing out that legally, Biden is just as, if not more guilty under the law.

But yeah, I think like Hilly, you all are convinced a guy who you claimed was so smart and ethical was too damn dumb to realize it was wrong and it is “reasonable” to claim he had no intent, which for all your comments on how dumb Trump was, you automatically assumed it was for nefarious purposes with no evidence of it.

Seems from where I sit, the government agents are taking sides on this. The way the government has been handling it is quite different.

At least Garland was smart enough to assign someone else for Biden’s case unlike his personal handling of Trump’s.

Excellent post Sir!!!!!

Mic drop,.........

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
There were just 10 or so documents and it's been over 2 months since they were "discovered" so shouldn't this have been mostly investigated by now. Since it's typical to just return them and move on, it seems that someone leaked their existence just to stir shit up.

Then again maybe it was to speed up the trump case and up the odds of his being prosecuted.

Wow! Apologist to the third power!!!

He had them for at least SIX YEARS!!!! In unsecured areas, his friggen garage, for goodness sake. There is ample evidence that the documents have been moved several times while he had them.

Aaaaaaaaand! The department of justice knew he had them BEFORE the midterm elections and didn't say a word to the public until after the elections!

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
There were just 10 or so documents and it's been over 2 months since they were "discovered" so shouldn't this have been mostly investigated by now. Since it's typical to just return them and move on, it seems that someone leaked their existence just to stir shit up.

Then again maybe it was to speed up the trump case and up the odds of his being prosecuted.

Wow! Apologist to the third power!!!

He had them for at least SIX YEARS!!!! In unsecured areas, his friggen garage, for goodness sake. There is ample evidence that the documents have been moved several times while he had them.

Aaaaaaaaand! The department of justice knew he had them BEFORE the midterm elections and didn't say a word to the public until after the elections!

And the Pubs wouldn't have delayed releasing that info, LOLOL had it been them?

had trump been co-operative and not tried to obstruct return of the documents it would have been no harm no foul. Just because Joe had them for 6 years it doesn't mean any authorities knew it too. BTW are they copies or originals?

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Originally posted by sjr:
Yet even more classified documents found !!
When the MSM starts to pick up and starts to cover it rather than ignore it as usual .
Over 100 Million $$$ from China " donated " to the Penn Biden center . Media doesn't touch that .
At what point do you not come to the conclusion that the Biden's are severely compromised and should be charge for obvious criminal activity .
Creepy Joe Biden is a pathological lier thru out his whole time in politics . Nothing but a slimy used car salesman .
Come on Man

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Michelle < I was a man> Obama ??? flame homer