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Originally posted by Saeed:
On the other hand, Trump is being charged for misplacing secret documents.

Biden did, and there no one asking questions about it.

Modern America!

The GOLD STANDARD OF GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION!

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
https://apnews.com/article/bal...b012cfba0e67b3f77fb7

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
TDS and shortsightedness on the “D” side. Blind eye to Trump’s malfeasance, distrust of elections, clear weaponization of formerly trusted institutions and righteous (maybe self righteous) disgust with lockstep progressive/social(ist) agenda on the “R” side. . Remember the joy in the Democratic Party, when Harry Reid did away with the 60 vote majority for federal judges. Boy, that came back to haunt them, didn’t it. Even if Trump is convicted, history tells us the same “payback is a MF “ will most probably be the result with these prosecutions.

Find me the man and I’ll find you the crime.

Where are Scoop Jackson and Everett Dirksen when we need them.

No one who can read with any critical thought ability trusts the process as administered by either side.

Elon Musk has it right. I’m moving to Mars.

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
Jack Smith said it well:

“We have one set of laws in this country, and they apply to everyone.”

Does any disagree with this?

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Only in America, an ex-president and a sitting president are guilty of treason!

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Only in America, an ex-president and a sitting president are guilty of treason!

"Anybody that thinks there is any similarity to the way Biden and trump handled their respective classified documents issues doesn't understand or is unaware of the facts, is willfully blind or is just flat stupid."

Or is trolling his own board.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
“payback is a MF “ will most probably be the result with these prosecutions.

No one who can read with any critical thought ability trusts the process as administered by either side.

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You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Hell yea, it’s political!

Hillary’s server, Lois Learner’s taking the Fifth, the suppressed laptop, hiding FBI documents from subpoenas, retaliation for FBI whistleblowers, Senior FBI officials vowing to make sure Trump doesn’t win, the whole made up pissing in the bed dossier….it goes on.

I agree with you that pay back isn’t good, but Democrats turning a blind eye to their own scandals breeds it. As does the same actions by the right.

The rule of law only works if Justice is equally administered, btw.

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You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Hell yea, it’s political!

Hillary’s server, Lois Learner’s taking the Fifth, the suppressed laptop, hiding FBI documents from subpoenas, retaliation for FBI whistleblowers, Senior FBI officials vowing to make sure Trump doesn’t win, the whole made up pissing in the bed dossier….it goes on.

I agree with you that pay back isn’t good, but Democrats turning a blind eye to their own scandals breeds it. As does the same actions by the right.

The rule of law only works if Justice is equally administered, btw.

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You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

Gibberish. Versus well drafted indictments.

Sucks, doesn't it? Goddamn lawyers. Up yours Saeed. We are the folks that hold people to account. Cry and whine as you like.

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Originally posted by skb:
Accountability in a Monarchy just depends in who your Daddy happens to be.

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:

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Originally posted by skb:
Accountability in a Monarchy just depends in who your Daddy happens to be.

Seems to be the same for King Joe’s family.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Hell yea, it’s political!

Hillary’s server, Lois Learner’s taking the Fifth, the suppressed laptop, hiding FBI documents from subpoenas, retaliation for FBI whistleblowers, Senior FBI officials vowing to make sure Trump doesn’t win, the whole made up pissing in the bed dossier….it goes on.

I agree with you that pay back isn’t good, but Democrats turning a blind eye to their own scandals breeds it. As does the same actions by the right.

The rule of law only works if Justice is equally administered, btw.

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You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by JudgeG:
Hell yea, it’s political!

Hillary’s server, Lois Learner’s taking the Fifth, the suppressed laptop, hiding FBI documents from subpoenas, retaliation for FBI whistleblowers, Senior FBI officials vowing to make sure Trump doesn’t win, the whole made up pissing in the bed dossier….it goes on.

I agree with you that pay back isn’t good, but Democrats turning a blind eye to their own scandals breeds it. As does the same actions by the right.

The rule of law only works if Justice is equally administered, btw.

quote:

You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

The real question is will the rule of law quit working if enough folks believe like you do - that the law is political and it's not administered fairly? Sure, there may be some instances, but I'm talking about the scale of your conspiracy theories.

There are questions and possibilities and suspicions, with merit, founding some of the basis for your (plural) conspiracy theories, drawn to conclusions as facts. That's the problem with conspiracy theories. First, there's some merit based on tidbits of knowledge, then it goes unanswered (satisfactorily given the weight of ideology) and the suspicion remains. Some can't leave it alone so they embellish it and finally draw conclusions outta their preconceptions. Mostly, the way it works is they draw conclusions first then make the basis fit. Either way, this is NOT Critical Thinking.

It is possible that I'm guilty too. For example, I will always believe that Trump and his campaign colluded with Russia. There's lots of evidence for that, And there's lots of evidence that the Right tried to spin it away, as they always do.

Just know this: the path to fascism is narrow in that the path treads directly on the Rule of Law. It must breakdown as we know it and as the Founders intended for fascism to gain traction. If half the people in the country believe it is already broken, then we're halfway there.

Trump and Trumpism are all about breaking down the Rule of Law. They will feed the doubt, suspicion, speculation and the theory because they are compelled. They can't stop.

We have seen where the line between Rule of Law and politics is, clearly, with the number of Benghazi investigations. Yet Hillary was not indicted under the rule of law. There was ample reason for that, (not indicting) as an example.

When the rule of law becomes a tool for politics, as in fascism, the breakdown will be measured in the requirement for facts and evidence, and the burden of proof. (beyond reasonable doubt for example) https://lawrina.org/blog/how-m...-to-convict-someone/

Since you use the word "Judge" in your forum name, you probable know all this, or ought to, but othere may not know. From your posts I can presume that you don't know.

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Originally posted by regor:
You still believe in Russia, Russia collusion and we’re suppose to take you seriously, how?

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by regor:
You still believe in Russia, Russia collusion and we’re suppose to take you seriously, how?

Do or don't. It's up to you. Usually, excuses are easy anyway. I just made it easy by admitting that I don't know it all and may have faults of my own.

I certainly don't want to argue about the Russian thingy anymore. But the conclusion that it was a farce is all wrong. If Trump said it was a hoax, then exactly the opposite is most probably the truth.

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What I’m pointing out, perhaps assuming too much about some folks’ grasp of history (and their lock-step self righteousness) is that the present progressive TDS thesis, being abused by hyperbole, will swings too far when inevitably comes the resultant antithesis, slowing (and perhaps even damning the arrival of useful moderation.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by JudgeG:
Hell yea, it’s political!

Hillary’s server, Lois Learner’s taking the Fifth, the suppressed laptop, hiding FBI documents from subpoenas, retaliation for FBI whistleblowers, Senior FBI officials vowing to make sure Trump doesn’t win, the whole made up pissing in the bed dossier….it goes on.

I agree with you that pay back isn’t good, but Democrats turning a blind eye to their own scandals breeds it. As does the same actions by the right.

The rule of law only works if Justice is equally administered, btw.

quote:

You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

The real question is will the rule of law quit working if enough folks believe like you do - that the law is political and it's not administered fairly? Sure, there may be some instances, but I'm talking about the scale of your conspiracy theories.

There are questions and possibilities and suspicions, with merit, founding some of the basis for your (plural) conspiracy theories, drawn to conclusions as facts. That's the problem with conspiracy theories. First, there's some merit based on tidbits of knowledge, then it goes unanswered (satisfactorily given the weight of ideology) and the suspicion remains. Some can't leave it alone so they embellish it and finally draw conclusions outta their preconceptions. Mostly, the way it works is they draw conclusions first then make the basis fit. Either way, this is NOT Critical Thinking.

It is possible that I'm guilty too. For example, I will always believe that Trump and his campaign colluded with Russia. There's lots of evidence for that, And there's lots of evidence that the Right tried to spin it away, as they always do.

Just know this: the path to fascism is narrow in that the path treads directly on the Rule of Law. It must breakdown as we know it and as the Founders intended for fascism to gain traction. If half the people in the country believe it is already broken, then we're halfway there.

Trump and Trumpism are all about breaking down the Rule of Law. They will feed the doubt, suspicion, speculation and the theory because they are compelled. They can't stop.

We have seen where the line between Rule of Law and politics is, clearly, with the number of Benghazi investigations. Yet Hillary was not indicted under the rule of law. There was ample reason for that, (not indicting) as an example.

When the rule of law becomes a tool for politics, as in fascism, the breakdown will be measured in the requirement for facts and evidence, and the burden of proof. (beyond reasonable doubt for example) https://lawrina.org/blog/how-m...-to-convict-someone/

Since you use the word "Judge" in your forum name, you probable know all this, or ought to, but othere may not know. From your posts I can presume that you don't know.

quote:

Originally posted by regor:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by JudgeG:
Hell yea, it’s political!

Hillary’s server, Lois Learner’s taking the Fifth, the suppressed laptop, hiding FBI documents from subpoenas, retaliation for FBI whistleblowers, Senior FBI officials vowing to make sure Trump doesn’t win, the whole made up pissing in the bed dossier….it goes on.

I agree with you that pay back isn’t good, but Democrats turning a blind eye to their own scandals breeds it. As does the same actions by the right.

The rule of law only works if Justice is equally administered, btw.

quote:

You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

The real question is will the rule of law quit working if enough folks believe like you do - that the law is political and it's not administered fairly? Sure, there may be some instances, but I'm talking about the scale of your conspiracy theories.

There are questions and possibilities and suspicions, with merit, founding some of the basis for your (plural) conspiracy theories, drawn to conclusions as facts. That's the problem with conspiracy theories. First, there's some merit based on tidbits of knowledge, then it goes unanswered (satisfactorily given the weight of ideology) and the suspicion remains. Some can't leave it alone so they embellish it and finally draw conclusions outta their preconceptions. Mostly, the way it works is they draw conclusions first then make the basis fit. Either way, this is NOT Critical Thinking.

It is possible that I'm guilty too. For example, I will always believe that Trump and his campaign colluded with Russia. There's lots of evidence for that, And there's lots of evidence that the Right tried to spin it away, as they always do.

Just know this: the path to fascism is narrow in that the path treads directly on the Rule of Law. It must breakdown as we know it and as the Founders intended for fascism to gain traction. If half the people in the country believe it is already broken, then we're halfway there.

Trump and Trumpism are all about breaking down the Rule of Law. They will feed the doubt, suspicion, speculation and the theory because they are compelled. They can't stop.

We have seen where the line between Rule of Law and politics is, clearly, with the number of Benghazi investigations. Yet Hillary was not indicted under the rule of law. There was ample reason for that, (not indicting) as an example.

When the rule of law becomes a tool for politics, as in fascism, the breakdown will be measured in the requirement for facts and evidence, and the burden of proof. (beyond reasonable doubt for example) https://lawrina.org/blog/how-m...-to-convict-someone/

Since you use the word "Judge" in your forum name, you probable know all this, or ought to, but othere may not know. From your posts I can presume that you don't know.

You still believe in Russia, Russia collusion and we’re suppose to take you seriously, how?

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Russian bot/troll. No big surprise.

quote:

Originally posted by jdollar:
Russian bot/troll. No big surprise.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by regor:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by JudgeG:
Hell yea, it’s political!

Hillary’s server, Lois Learner’s taking the Fifth, the suppressed laptop, hiding FBI documents from subpoenas, retaliation for FBI whistleblowers, Senior FBI officials vowing to make sure Trump doesn’t win, the whole made up pissing in the bed dossier….it goes on.

I agree with you that pay back isn’t good, but Democrats turning a blind eye to their own scandals breeds it. As does the same actions by the right.

The rule of law only works if Justice is equally administered, btw.

quote:

You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

The real question is will the rule of law quit working if enough folks believe like you do - that the law is political and it's not administered fairly? Sure, there may be some instances, but I'm talking about the scale of your conspiracy theories.

There are questions and possibilities and suspicions, with merit, founding some of the basis for your (plural) conspiracy theories, drawn to conclusions as facts. That's the problem with conspiracy theories. First, there's some merit based on tidbits of knowledge, then it goes unanswered (satisfactorily given the weight of ideology) and the suspicion remains. Some can't leave it alone so they embellish it and finally draw conclusions outta their preconceptions. Mostly, the way it works is they draw conclusions first then make the basis fit. Either way, this is NOT Critical Thinking.

It is possible that I'm guilty too. For example, I will always believe that Trump and his campaign colluded with Russia. There's lots of evidence for that, And there's lots of evidence that the Right tried to spin it away, as they always do.

Just know this: the path to fascism is narrow in that the path treads directly on the Rule of Law. It must breakdown as we know it and as the Founders intended for fascism to gain traction. If half the people in the country believe it is already broken, then we're halfway there.

Trump and Trumpism are all about breaking down the Rule of Law. They will feed the doubt, suspicion, speculation and the theory because they are compelled. They can't stop.

We have seen where the line between Rule of Law and politics is, clearly, with the number of Benghazi investigations. Yet Hillary was not indicted under the rule of law. There was ample reason for that, (not indicting) as an example.

When the rule of law becomes a tool for politics, as in fascism, the breakdown will be measured in the requirement for facts and evidence, and the burden of proof. (beyond reasonable doubt for example) https://lawrina.org/blog/how-m...-to-convict-someone/

Since you use the word "Judge" in your forum name, you probable know all this, or ought to, but othere may not know. From your posts I can presume that you don't know.

You still believe in Russia, Russia collusion and we’re suppose to take you seriously, how?

Six posts and we're supposed to take you seriously?

quote:

Originally posted by regor:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

quote:

Originally posted by regor:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by JudgeG:
Hell yea, it’s political!

Hillary’s server, Lois Learner’s taking the Fifth, the suppressed laptop, hiding FBI documents from subpoenas, retaliation for FBI whistleblowers, Senior FBI officials vowing to make sure Trump doesn’t win, the whole made up pissing in the bed dossier….it goes on.

I agree with you that pay back isn’t good, but Democrats turning a blind eye to their own scandals breeds it. As does the same actions by the right.

The rule of law only works if Justice is equally administered, btw.

quote:

You also presume that the law is administered by "either side" differently. It is if you look at the politicians, especially the Right. But fortunately the Judiciary seems to be holding their independence, despite the Right's best efforts to tilt it.

The real question is will the rule of law quit working if enough folks believe like you do - that the law is political and it's not administered fairly? Sure, there may be some instances, but I'm talking about the scale of your conspiracy theories.

There are questions and possibilities and suspicions, with merit, founding some of the basis for your (plural) conspiracy theories, drawn to conclusions as facts. That's the problem with conspiracy theories. First, there's some merit based on tidbits of knowledge, then it goes unanswered (satisfactorily given the weight of ideology) and the suspicion remains. Some can't leave it alone so they embellish it and finally draw conclusions outta their preconceptions. Mostly, the way it works is they draw conclusions first then make the basis fit. Either way, this is NOT Critical Thinking.

It is possible that I'm guilty too. For example, I will always believe that Trump and his campaign colluded with Russia. There's lots of evidence for that, And there's lots of evidence that the Right tried to spin it away, as they always do.

Just know this: the path to fascism is narrow in that the path treads directly on the Rule of Law. It must breakdown as we know it and as the Founders intended for fascism to gain traction. If half the people in the country believe it is already broken, then we're halfway there.

Trump and Trumpism are all about breaking down the Rule of Law. They will feed the doubt, suspicion, speculation and the theory because they are compelled. They can't stop.

We have seen where the line between Rule of Law and politics is, clearly, with the number of Benghazi investigations. Yet Hillary was not indicted under the rule of law. There was ample reason for that, (not indicting) as an example.

When the rule of law becomes a tool for politics, as in fascism, the breakdown will be measured in the requirement for facts and evidence, and the burden of proof. (beyond reasonable doubt for example) https://lawrina.org/blog/how-m...-to-convict-someone/

Since you use the word "Judge" in your forum name, you probable know all this, or ought to, but othere may not know. From your posts I can presume that you don't know.

You still believe in Russia, Russia collusion and we’re suppose to take you seriously, how?

Six posts and we're supposed to take you seriously?

I’d say more than a man that still clings to the Russia, Russia, Russia bed time story, yes!!