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Wow, you knew what he was thinking Jeff!!
must be a handy trick reading minds from a distance like that.
Quick, what am I thinking. Wink
 
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Fuck you. You cheered for George Floyd’s murder. He was not a threat. He was murdered because a sociopath pile of shit cop wanted to murder him.


You’re a psycho.

I cheered nothing. All was a sad day.

Chauvin did his job. Floyd resisted arrest…anything past that is on him.


. . . speaking of psycho babble. So a drunk college student resisting arrest has signed his own death warrant if a police officer wants to take him out? A guess the police officer gets to be judge, jury and executioner. What a load of bullshit. Part of the social bargain with the police is that in return for giving you substantial potential control over our lives, you will conduct yourself in accordance with a higher standard. Not that if I decide to be an ass you get the right to punish me as you see fit.



That is just it Mike. Floyd was no drunk teenager. He was a big man who had worked as a bouncer who was full of meth and opioid (a combination known to make people hard to subdue). He was also a known criminal.

Your scenario doesn’t apply.


Some cant, or don't want to, see the difference. Some might even say a career criminal. But lawyers especially like career criminals....repeat customers you know....


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Fuck you. You cheered for George Floyd’s murder. He was not a threat. He was murdered because a sociopath pile of shit cop wanted to murder him.


You’re a psycho.

I cheered nothing. All was a sad day.

Chauvin did his job. Floyd resisted arrest…anything past that is on him.


. . . speaking of psycho babble. So a drunk college student resisting arrest has signed his own death warrant if a police officer wants to take him out? A guess the police officer gets to be judge, jury and executioner. What a load of bullshit. Part of the social bargain with the police is that in return for giving you substantial potential control over our lives, you will conduct yourself in accordance with a higher standard. Not that if I decide to be an ass you get the right to punish me as you see fit.



That is just it Mike. Floyd was no drunk teenager. He was a big man who had worked as a bouncer who was full of meth and opioid (a combination known to make people hard to subdue). He was also a known criminal.

Your scenario doesn’t apply.


Some cant, or don't want to, see the difference. Some might even say a career criminal. But lawyers especially like career criminals....repeat customers you know....


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He was also inappropriately restrained by department policy. Police are permitted to use necessary force; not one step more.
 
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Chauvin is being held here -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Institution,_Tucson


As a former cop Chauvin could have gone directly into Admin Segregation by filling out a single form. Serious attacks there are vanishing rare, but a wannabe badass like him would think it beneath him.


Yeah....old jeff....he can give Hamas the benefit of the doubt, but when it co!as to an American cop....they are just GUILTY!!!


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Well, the former cop was given due process of law, and multiple appeals w more to come. Do yeah he is guilty beyond a responsible doubt. It is not required that he be found guilty beyond all earthly certainty. You can apply that standard if you wish. However, it disqualifies you from setting on a criminal jury for cause.

I still have not seen anyone on here given Hamas the “benefit of the doubt.”
 
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Wow, you knew what he was thinking Jeff!!
must be a handy trick reading minds from a distance like that.
Quick, what am I thinking. Wink


Best I can tell largely nothing.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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Mike,
Chauvin is being held here -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Institution,_Tucson


As a former cop Chauvin could have gone directly into Admin Segregation by filling out a single form. Serious attacks there are vanishing rare, but a wannabe badass like him would think it beneath him.


Yeah....old jeff....he can give Hamas the benefit of the doubt, but when it co!as to an American cop....they are just GUILTY!!!


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Hamas is a terrorist organization, there is no doubt to give them the benefit of and I have not done so, which doesn't hinder you from lying about it.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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Well, the former cop was given due process of law, and multiple appeals w more to come. Do yeah he is guilty beyond a responsible doubt. It is not required that he be found guilty beyond all earthly certainty. You can apply that standard if you wish. However, it disqualifies you from setting on a criminal jury for cause.

I still have not seen anyone on here given Hamas the “benefit of the doubt.”


It just goes to show you that the “pen is mightier than the sword.” Multiply that might times a million with the internet. The media made Chauvin pay the price.

Juries get it wrong ALL the time. Hence why even the best of litigators with the strongest of cases sits on pins and needles with butterflies in the belly when the jury comes in…you just never know.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Wrong is not dispositive. Wrong is not even the standard for review. What is dispositive was are there errored of law to set aside the verdict or insufficient evidence to support the verdict beyond a reasonable doubt. That is the standard. Justice Scalia, more likely than not, let an “innocent” man be executed applying that standard.

You gave demonstrated four things to me in this conversation: 1) an overwhelming prejudice to police; 2) an overwhelming prejudice to African Americans and criminal defendants in general who do not look like you to support criminal defendants that look like; 3) that your doctor skills are not able to qualify you as an expert on this type of case because your medical theories have been rejected by courts; and 4) you would be stricken for cause by any prosecutor due to your unwillingness to follow mandated law concerning the burden of proof.



Your last post is just stupidity.

I have no idea how I would have voted on this jury. I have not seen one jury instruction, seen one piece of admitted evidence, nor heard one second of testimony. That is the point. You know nothing.


What I do know is you have presented nothing fact nor precedent that would cause this verdict to be overturned. You have basically just talked about your feelings.
 
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My medical deductions on the necropsy are sound. The fact that there is some case-law with some hired gun experts arguing otherwise means nothing to me…I could care less. I understand pathophysiology as it relates to tissue trauma well. I operate on such tissue routinely as well as render expert opinion on it for insurance companies.

But you are correct…I am mostly arguing my “feelings” on the subject. I understand the shackles of settled cases are difficult to undo and the nuances of doing such is far outside of my area of expertise.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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You gave demonstrated four things to me in this conversation: 1) an overwhelming prejudice to police;

I do believe in this incident that Chauvin deserved firing but not criminal culpability.

2) an overwhelming prejudice to African Americans and criminal defendants in general who do not look like you to support criminal defendants that look like;

This is not true and you have nothing factual to base that statement on. Just a personal attack on me.

3) that your doctor skills are not able to qualify you as an expert on this type of case because your medical theories have been rejected by courts;

Albeit my theories are medically sound.

and 4) you would be stricken for cause by any prosecutor due to your unwillingness to follow mandated law concerning the burden of proof.

Roll Eyes


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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This particular case is and will be for long time too hot of a potato for any appellate judge because certain political elements made it racist crime which is in these times very fashionable and en vogue thus nobody will wanna touch it
Again, IMO Chauvin got raw deal and in our nation we made bum criminal a hero…go figure


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